- The American Conservative - https://www.theamericanconservative.com -

GOP Voters Waterboard Romney

You watching this Super Tuesday results coverage? Holy cow, Romney is, as I write this, losing Ohio. David Frum: [1]

Has the Republican Party gone on strike?

Tonight’s message: Outside the Federalist heartland and the peculiar Virginia ballot, Republicans won’t accept Mitt Romney. Against such a weak field, for Romney to be battling to carry Ohio is deeply, deeply ominous.

The donors all made up their minds months ago. The rank-and-file are refusing.

UPDATE:  As some commenters have noted below, it looks like Romney will eke out a victory. Still, I believe Frum is right. For Mitt Romney to have to be so beaten up by Rick Santorum — Rick Santorum! — this far into the primary season is pretty stunning. If Gingrich weren’t so vain, and had dropped after Michigan, is there any doubt that Santorum would have won Ohio comfortably?

UPDATE.2: I mean, think of it — Romney massively, massively outspent Santorum in Ohio, and if he wins, it’ll only be by a few thousand votes. The only other active GOP candidate on the ballot in Virginia was Ron Paul, and he got 41 percent of the vote to Romney’s 59. Really. Unless Obama is found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl (h/t: EWE [2]), this election is his to lose.

25 Comments (Open | Close)

25 Comments To "GOP Voters Waterboard Romney"

#1 Comment By Charles Cosimano On March 6, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

Romney was not expected to carry Ohio.

#2 Comment By Hugo Longbone On March 6, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

Dear Santa,

I know this is an early letter, but can you please make Gary Johnson win the Libertarian Nomination, get in the presidential debates and, if you are in a generous mood, have him steal a few mountain states.

#3 Comment By Leroy Huizenga On March 6, 2012 @ 10:23 pm

Wait a minute — politico.com informs us that Santorum is up less than 3000 votes out of over 710,000 cast — Romney can take Ohio. Are we thinking that a weak win is a rebuke, or Rod, did you mean you thought Santorum was going to win outright?

#4 Comment By Ari N. Schulman On March 6, 2012 @ 10:39 pm

From looking at the county breakdown, I think it’s likely Romney will just barely edge it out — for whatever that’s worth.

#5 Comment By Leroy Huizenga On March 6, 2012 @ 10:54 pm

There it is — Romney overtakes Santorum.

#6 Comment By MBrown On March 6, 2012 @ 11:07 pm

I’m beginning to wonder whether a vote for Santorum is a protest vote against the GOP establishment, rather than an endorsement of Santorum.

I’m one of the GOP faithful (in that I consistently vote for GOP candidates – not in that I have much faith in the party or its leadership at this point). And I prefer Romney as the GOP candidate. And I believe that he will be the nominee. But there is something in me that wants to vote against him, to let the party know just how frustrated I am with the leadership and the candidates that they are offering us.

I suspect that this isn’t unique. I’m guessing that there are a lot of people voting for Santorum who fully expect (and perhaps even want!) Romney to be the nominee, but feel compelled to give a metaphorical middle finger to the party.

#7 Comment By Charles Cosimano On March 6, 2012 @ 11:17 pm

Rod, do you remember back 2008 when we all thought that Obama was toast in the general election about this time.

#8 Comment By Leroy Huizenga On March 6, 2012 @ 11:28 pm

FWIW: [3]

Long way to go before November, and let’s not forget about the wild card that is Iran.

#9 Comment By cecelia On March 6, 2012 @ 11:30 pm

well – think you got it Rod – the elites of the GOP may have chosen Romney but the proletariat ain’t buying it – it looks like in every state Romney loses people with incomes under 100,000. And he appears to be losing the so called evangelicals (but keeping the Catholics ). Is this Mormon prejudice or that Santorum is getting the evangelicals?

#10 Comment By Alex On March 7, 2012 @ 12:12 am

Today I was listening for a few minutes for an inverview with a Republican governor, I believe, of Virginia. He said “We had 6 strong candidates. Now we are down to 4.” These people have no sense of humor.

#11 Comment By Kit Stolz On March 7, 2012 @ 1:21 am

I didn’t think Obama was toast after he lost Ohio in the 2008 primary. I figured that he was a little too “other” for that state, but would do just fine in lots of other states, from California to Virginia. Which he did.

Listening to Romney’s speech tonight in Ohio, he sounded vague and a little flat. Not certain he would win. He was chipper enough on the surface, but Santorum –, no matter what you think of him — gave a much better speech. Neither had any news to report, but Santorum ‘s words reflected his views. Romney seemed committed only to himself.

#12 Comment By MH – secular misanthropist On March 7, 2012 @ 6:27 am

All the other websites I go to say how Romney reaped super Tuesday wins. I come here and he’s been water boarded.

#13 Comment By M.Z. On March 7, 2012 @ 8:17 am

If the headline is just that Romney is a minority candidate, I suppose that is news given the past of McCain, Bush, Dole, and Bush. I would still maintain that this has more to do with problems of the GOP electorate and not with Romney. As a former Republican, I still can’t understand people’s big hang up with Romney. The Republicans seem to want a candidate that is both ideological and popular. Romney is just willing to be popular. The other candidates are more ideological but have serious doubts about being able sustain popularity. Perhaps Romney’s opponents fears are more a case of projection rather than serious analysis.

#14 Comment By P J On March 7, 2012 @ 8:28 am

Romney is clearly unelectable. Yes, worse than Santorum. Santorum won’t win and he will drag down the GOP with upper class affluent voters who are so common in the blue states and blue cities of swing states (Particularly Pennsylvania and Virginia). But Romney won’t win those people anyway once he’s up against Obama and on top of that will destroy GOP performance among the working class voters that are the key to GOP majorities these days. And that means states like Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, and a number of others are down the drain. They think Santorum drags the ticket down in November? Wait until they get their wish and put Rich Uncle Pennybags, the icon from the Monopoly game up as their candidate. The GOP will be completely and totally shellacked all across this country. Rank and file voters across the country who have to actually live in the mess of an economy these people have created can see this coming clearly because we can see what happens when the GOP admits for the first time publicly that it is only for the rich. The fact that the GOP and press insiders cannot see this coming from 1000 miles away is proof positive that the entire beltway is completely disconnected from reality.

As I’ve said before, this is all coming from someone who was supporting Huntsman because I’d like someone who is a sane conservative in charge. But even I would pick Santorum over Romney in a heartbeat if this thing is still going by the time my state votes.

#15 Comment By James On March 7, 2012 @ 8:29 am

@ Charles…exactly. In the end, I think $5-$6 gas and a deaf ear in the WH may have more to do with Obama’s undoing than Rep. X on the ballot.

I will say, though, that Obama’s team is adept politically, and aren’t to be “misunderestimated”. They very effectively triangulated the Republicans with this whole contraception fiasco, and they’ll try it again. And again. And again.

#16 Comment By Brian On March 7, 2012 @ 8:30 am

The GOP wants Not Mitt Romney. The country wants Not Barack Obama (just like in 2008 all the country wanted was Not George Bush, which is why Obama and Hillary fought so viciously for the nomination, for all those three year olds who think this is The Worst Primary Season Evah). The GOP voters aren’t going to get what they want. We’ll see whether the country fares any better.

When in 1992 did crazy Perot move in? If there were ever a year when a populist right-winger could really stir things up, this is it. Unlike Perot, s/he would actually win a bunch of states. Probably would swing the electoral college and overall vote to Obama (with at most a low-40s vote share), but would make a pretty historic showing for a third-party candidate.

#17 Comment By Brian On March 7, 2012 @ 8:32 am

PS. How are the loonies who love to write that Tea Parties are brain-dead neanderthals being led around by big-money interests dealing with the fact that the GOP is gagging so hard on accepting Mitt?

#18 Comment By Polichinello On March 7, 2012 @ 9:19 am

Romney spent a lot of money, but Santorum had a lot of in-kind help from big-foot radio hosts, like Limbaugh and Levin, so it was not nearly as lopsided a media war as it might appear on the surface.

While it would have been better for Romney to have won more decisively, he’s still well positioned for the general–as well positioned as any Republican can be. He does well in urban areas, and the areas now voting against him will come out for him in November, as they want to vote against Obama. This doesn’t mean he’s guaranteed to win, obviously, but he’s in better shape than Santorum would be in November, as Santorum would have to work a lot harder not only to win Romney’s voters, but win enough to counter the leftist partisans who’ll come out specifically to vote against him.

#19 Comment By Don Yarish On March 7, 2012 @ 9:43 am

Why all this sturm and drung, there is one party in America the Republicrats and they are just puppets of the Ruling Class.

The Constitution and representative democracy died with Roosevelt and the Progressive movement.
Well God Bless Ron Paul for having the courage to talk truth to power. To hell with Big Brother and the Wall St Corporate Military complex, only an economic colapse will foment the revolution we need to regain our counrty and Constitution

#20 Comment By Hugo Longbone On March 7, 2012 @ 11:31 am

Although I am still bitter about Ron Paul’s results, I also believe a lot of the Mitt Romney narrative is utter non-sense. Does anyone really, really think more 10% of the Republican leaning voters are going to stay home because Mitt Romney is the candidate. The US had 4 years of Obama and I think the republican leaners who are not stridently Pro-Paul are going to rally around whatever white elephant is nominated.

#21 Comment By Charles Cosimano On March 7, 2012 @ 11:44 am

I think James is absolutely right. If Obama is booted from office it will be gas prices that do it.

The way things look now I can see a scenario like this. Romney wins the Presidency because of gas prices, but the Democrats use the Repulicans damned fool crazy nonsense about contraception to retake the House and hold the Senate.

#22 Comment By poorcanada On March 7, 2012 @ 1:35 pm

Revolution won’t work, look at Egypt…, only prayer and I hope, Ron Paul.

#23 Comment By JustMe On March 7, 2012 @ 3:31 pm

The GOP wants Not Mitt Romney. The country wants Not Barack Obama

The conundrum for both Romney’s and Obama’s opponents is that it turns out that you can’t beat someone with no one.

The GOP might want NotRomney, but NotRomney isn’t running– only Santorum, Paul, and Gingrich.

#24 Comment By Tony J On March 7, 2012 @ 3:33 pm


“PS. How are the loonies who love to write that Tea Parties are brain-dead neanderthals being led around by big-money interests dealing with the fact that the GOP is gagging so hard on accepting Mitt?”

I can clear that up for you. In 2008 the big money interests who lead the brain-dead neanderthals around got a severe kick in the jewels and had to scramble to find an anti-Obama message that the MSM could mainstream.

So they repackaged the brain-dead neanderthals as the totally independent “Tea Party Movement” and let them give the MSM what they wanted, a reason to pretend that there was opposition to Obama that wasn’t coming from the Base of the GOP.

Except what happened was that the GOP Base (all 27% of them) finally tasted the institutional power that comes with being the ‘voice’ of their party, They dominated the 2010 Primaries and managed to get some of their ideologically acceptable candidates elected, even while they sabotaged other races that might have given the GOP control of the Senate. They gained a serious wedge of House GOP votes, and were able to make the battles of 2010/11 about outright opposition to anything Obama suggested, but the damned Kenyan Usurper kept on out-thinking them and getting more or less what he wanted through Congress anyway.

Now it’s Presidential Election season and the big money interests are having a lot of trouble getting the brain dead neanderthals who constitute their base vote to swallow their prefered candidate. Why should they? They’re the Base of the Party, why shouldn’t their deep aversion to Mitt Romney have an effect on his vote tally?

No one on ‘The Left’ is even a tiny litttle bit surprised about this.

#25 Comment By Brian On March 7, 2012 @ 3:56 pm

Tony J: So the GOP base is full of brain dead neanderthals who are easily led. Except when they’re brain dead neanderthals who are NOT easily led. And “The Left” predicted this exactly.

Boy, you must have to be REALLY bright to comprehend that…