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Into the Christian Closet

Listen to that monster Christian woman in the news clip above, an employee at a family-owned, small-town Indiana pizza shop. She just spews venom™ all over gays and lesbians.

Well, they and their allies sure showed them:

 

 

It’s coming. TMZ reports this afternoon that the Social Justice Warriors have forced the closing of the pizza parlor. A pizza parlor that has never refused a gay customer, and that has never been asked to cater a gay wedding, but would decline the wedding invite if they were ever asked. Which they almost certainly never would be. Who, gay or straight, hires a pizza parlor to cater their wedding? The TV reporter had to go trolling for a business to feature on her story.

Good job, Social Justice Warriors. You have destroyed a man’s business.

Says Allahpundit, who supports gay marriage:

“This is not the Indiana I remember as a kid,” said David Letterman last night about the new RFRA. This is a guy born in 1947, old enough to have already been in elementary school before Brown v. Board of Education was decided, who was well into his 40s before the first gay-marriage blip appeared on a state’s judicial radar. But that’s the way most people on my side of this issue roll these days. Culturally we’re in the midst of a great forgetting, where those who were themselves agnostic about SSM or even opposed to it 15 minutes ago simply cannot imagine a mindset that would be agnostic about, or opposed to, the practice. Either Letterman’s memory has wiped clean his own decades-long tacit complicity in traditional marriage as the only legitimate form or he hasn’t realized yet that the reason he doesn’t remember stuff like this happening when he was a kid is because gay Hoosiers had little choice at the time but to stay deep, deep, deep in the closet. The suggestion that Indiana is less accommodating to gays now, when reporters have to go door to door in small towns to find even one business willing to deny service to them, than it was in the 1950s is revisionism so egregious that gay-rights activists should be in his face about it, insisting that he recognize what America used to be like for them.

Instead they’re in the face of some pizzeria owner from a small town, who’ll almost certainly never be asked to cater a gay wedding — except maybe now as a pretext to coax her formal refusal and trigger a lawsuit — and who, like every other Christian business owner who’s run up against antidiscrimination laws thus far, isn’t refusing service to gays as a rule. She’s refusing compulsory participation in a wedding ceremony that violates what her religion tells her is permissible. And she’s getting destroyed for it on Yelp. Watch the clip, then read the Yelp comments and ask yourself on which side the malice in this debate, which is supposed to be about hatred and prejudice, truly lies. There’s no Internet mob these days quite as nasty as a mob of pro-gay social-justice warriors competing to win the outrage Olympics.

If you have a strong stomach, check out what the SJW crowd is saying on the restaurant’s Yelp site. [5] Seriously, do. And here is an obscene fake Memories Pizza website [6]someone has put up, using an image of the young woman behind the counter. Twenty-four hours ago, nobody had ever heard of these people. Now, their business may have been destroyed. An Indiana girls golf coach has been suspended after sending this tweet, and her case turned over to the DA [7] for possible intimidation and threat charges:

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All in the name of love and compassion and tolerance.

Get used to it.

Andrew Sullivan said, of Brendan Eich being hounded out of the company he helped found, “If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.” Sure wish Andrew was still blogging right now. Fortunately, we do have Conor Friedersdorf blogging, and he speaks out against the insane mob mentality [9] that has overtaken the pro-SSM crowd, and that has led them to make Indiana — where gays can marry — into a pariah state. Conor, by the way, was an early and consistent gay marriage supporter (and a sometime substitute for Andrew when he was on vacation). Excerpt:

When 13 states prohibit gay-marriage outright, what sense does it make for gay-rights supporters to boycott a different state where gay marriage is legal?

Being barred from marriage puts a significant burden on gay couples—a burden many orders of magnitude greater than the relatively small possibility of being refused by an atypically religious photographer or baker in the course of planning a same-sex wedding (the outcome the law’s opponents assert to be its true purpose). And there is no reason to think this law would allow a hotel or a restaurant to exclude gay customers, or that any hotels or restaurants are interested in doing so.

So why is Indiana public enemy number one?

The talented band Wilco has cancelled its May 7 show in Indianapolis, commenting that the law “feels like a thinly disguised legal discrimination.” But Wilco is playing two April shows in Texas, a state that doesn’t yet issue marriage licenses to gays. That is, Texas engages in not-at-all-disguised discrimination. Wilco also has upcoming shows in Missouri, Ohio, and Kentucky, other states that don’t grant marriage licenses to gays at all despite court rulings (which are presently stayed) declaring that its existing policy constitutes unconstitutional discrimination. Indianapolis, by contrast, actually has a municipal statute that bans anti-gay discrimination!

Because they don’t care. Because the progressive id is lit up like the Fourth of July by all this. Because this is what mobs do. This is how bullies roll.

Conor points out that only two years ago, Hillary Clinton was saying that she changed her mind on SSM, but that “people of good will” could disagree with her. Now she’s saying that those same people of good will are sad bigots, and how on earth are troglodytes like that still around in 2015? Conor, bless him, says that when it might have cost them something to stand for gay marriage rights, many, many politicians and celebrities did not do so. Now, when America is on the verge of having SSM everywhere, people like Hillary Clinton were always for gay rights. More Conor:

Now that public opinion has thankfully shifted, marriage traditionalists have thankfully been routed, gay marriage in all 50 states is thankfully inevitable, and its opponents are a waning minority incapable of imposing any cost on political opponents, elites who support gay marriage are suddenly very self-righteous and assertive. Now that those who would discriminate against gays are a powerless cultural minority that focuses its objectionable behavior in a tiny niche of the economy, elites have suddenly decided that using state power to punish them is a moral imperative. The timing suggests that this has as much to do with opportunism, tribalism, humanity’s love of bandwagons, and political positioning as it does with advancing gay rights, which have advanced thanks to persuasion, not coercion.

Here’s what any traditional Christian business owner or employee with a brain in his or her head must do now: keep your mouth shut. 

Do not talk to the media. You will almost certainly not get a fair shake, and even if you do, it’s not going to matter. The SJW mob will do what it can to destroy you. Do not talk to anybody about your thoughts or opinions unless you know you can trust them not to out you.

Never, ever deny your faith, but do not give them any more information than you absolutely have to. It can and will be used against you. Unless you are already out, stay in the closet. This is where we are in this country. You think I’m exaggerating? You think I’m being alarmist? Ask the O’Connor family of Memories Pizza how quickly your livelihood can be taken from you in the cause of Social Justice™.

If you have a better idea, let’s hear it.

This may not be the America the gay rights movement and its allies, especially in the media, wanted. But this is the America they have created. And it’s just starting.

UPDATE:  PJ Media’s Scott Ott puts together how this story was manufactured by the TV news reporter: [10]

ABC-57 reporter Alyssa Marino’s editor sends her on a half-hour drive southwest of their South Bend studio, to the small town of Walkerton (Pop. ~2,300). According to Alyssa’s own account on Twitter [11], she “just walked into their shop [Memories Pizza] and asked how they feel” about Indiana’s new Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

Owner Crystal O’Connor says she’s in favor of it, noting that while anyone can eat in her family restaurant, if the business were asked to cater a gay wedding, they would not do it. It conflicts with their biblical beliefs. Alyssa’s tweet mentions that the O’Connors have “never been asked to cater a same-sex wedding.”

What we have here is — as we called in journalism school jargon — “no story.” Nothing happened. Nothing was about to happen.

If I were forced to mark out a story line, it would be this: A nice lady in a small town tries to be helpful and polite to a lovely young reporter from “the big city.”

In other words, Memories Pizza didn’t blast out a news release. They didn’t contact the media, nor make a stink on Twitter or Facebook. They didn’t even post a sign in the window rejecting gay-wedding catering jobs. They merely answered questions from a novice reporter who strolled into their restaurant one day – who was sent on a mission by an irresponsible news organization.

To be fair, nobody made the O’Connors talk to the TV news. But Alyssa Marino and her news director knew what they were doing. Surely setting off a mob that drove a mom and pop pizza shop in a tiny, relatively poor [12] town out of business was what Alyssa Marino went to journalism school to do.

God, I hate the media.

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231 Comments To "Into the Christian Closet"

#1 Comment By Michael Guarino On April 2, 2015 @ 5:39 pm

This crowd has no idea how to be thankful. Not only were they not beheaded, the mob has made them wealthy!. Still they will cry about persecution; count on it. The religion is founded on persecution.

If you are suggesting that because there are more than enough people to clean up the wreckage left by the mob, there is not cause for condemning the mob’s actions, then that is insane. And it is equally insane to demand the O’Connor’s thank the mob for their abuse.

Go troll elsewhere.

And for the people who are interested in being serious, the fact that there was no violence or bloodshed here should be predictable. Nearly everyone thinks mob violence is wrong.

What people do not seem to understand is that mediated forms of intimidation, like online harassment and threats or punitive pseudo-boycotts intended to ostracize rather than persuade, are thoroughly unjust as well. The injustice is magnified exponentially by the anonymity of the web. Rarely do people online know their target’s heart or story, or any of the situational details needed to deliver justice. And of course, you simply do not have the authority to do this sort of thing if all that you have at stake is losing a twitter account, a point Freddie de Boer makes better than I can.

Evil evolves, it cannot be defined solely in terms of the forms it has taken in the past, and our language condemning it must evolve as well. At the moment, there are two online communities that are pushing that boundary, the cesspools of 4Chan and the SJW’s of Tumblr and Twitter. It is not just about gay rights either, look into how Scott Aaronson (a computer scientist who typically blogs about computational complexity) was railroaded by a feminist mob, or some of the more ridiculous internecine fights on the left like Jacobinghazi.

#2 Comment By Shag On April 2, 2015 @ 5:44 pm

“The operators of the stereopticon by their very selection of matter make horrifying assumptions about reality. For its audience that overarching dome becomes a sort of miasmic cloud, a breeder of strife and degradation and of the subhuman.

What person taking the affirmative view of life can deny that the world served up daily by press, movie, and radio is a world of evil and negation?

There is iron in our nature sufficient to withstand any fact that is present in a context of affirmation, but we cannot remain unaffected by the continued assertion of cynicism and brutality.

Yet these are what the materialists in control of publicity give us.”

R. Weaver, Ideas Have Consequences

#3 Comment By Thursday On April 2, 2015 @ 5:54 pm

“Nobody expects the Gay Inquisition!”

Wins the thread.

#4 Comment By Michael Guarino On April 2, 2015 @ 6:06 pm

Always punch up.

This is not sufficient, because a lot of the SJW crowd will misuse theories of privelege to argue that they are in fact punching up in cases like this.

We must take the phenomenon more seriously than a bumper-sticker rule like this will allow, unless we want our politics defined by the internet mob mentality, at least in the short run.

#5 Comment By Rusty On April 2, 2015 @ 6:06 pm

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Are we still crying? Poor forced-into-the-closet things.

[NFR: I hope they get a million dollars, just to piss all y’all off. The more y’all complain, the more likely I am to throw them a few dollars myself, to turn the curse that the SJWs inflicted on them into a blessing. — RD]

#6 Comment By Hector_St_Clare On April 2, 2015 @ 6:24 pm

But I would like to see you on a soap box outside “Out of Town News” in Harvard Square.

Oh yea, Out of Town news.

I grew up in close proximity to that corner of the world, and spent a good bit of time there for about 21 years. My mother lives ten minutes’ walk from there so I see the area when I’m home to visit, and it’s a convenient place to meet people. It has its charm, but definitely overrated.

#7 Comment By Bill Wills On April 2, 2015 @ 6:38 pm

I never thought I would see so much extreme towards Christians so soon in my lifetime.
I always thought such hatred was seen only in the violent parts of the middle east.
I do expect shortly to see lots of killings of christians by people have no tolerance of any opinion but there own.

#8 Comment By Thursday On April 2, 2015 @ 7:16 pm

For Christians, the closest analogy is probably the situation St. Paul alluded to when he noted how certain Christians of his time were so overly scrupulous they refused to eat meat left over from that set aside for idol worship. (See 1 Cor. 8:1 – 11.) Such meat was usually kept and sold in the marketplace to prevent its going to waste.

The analogy isn’t even close. The proper analogy is if Christians were to help set up and prepare for idol worshipping.

#9 Comment By Joan On April 2, 2015 @ 7:21 pm

SSM is a “condensed symbol” on the Left as well, not only representing the entire Sexual Revolution, but also the right to shake off the bonds of genetic and traditional family ties and assemble, instead, “families of choice,” built entirely on emotional and sexual bonds. Lefties are often very attached to their families of choice even if they are currently on speaking terms with their biological and legal kin. In fact, the families of choice, being assemblies of the like-minded, are often trusted more. (Just speaking from personal experience here.) The vast majority of lefties who are not, themselves, gay, nevertheless see their right to order their lives as they see fit as being at stake in the SSM fight.

homosexuality is indeed correlated with psychiatric morbidity. That is, homosexuals tend to be off-kilter in other ways, too.

Which would make homosexuality a disability and its sufferers entitled to protection under the Americans with Disabilities Act. Hey, at least we won’t have to put ramps on all our public buildings for them, or set aside all the good parking spaces. 😉

#10 Comment By MikeCA On April 2, 2015 @ 7:59 pm

Fran, Prime Minister Harper is an Evangelical & his government is full of religious conservatives. And speaking of conservative, the PM is a Tory and most of the things you mentioned either started under his watch or were rapidly accelerated. There has been a rightward drift in Canada(which concerns many) and I’d say it’s a toss up as to whether Harper will be able to form a majority government after this year’s election,indeed if the Tories can even win period. They’ve been in power for a long time & Justin Trudeau is a fresh face that many Canadians find appealing.

#11 Comment By Anne On April 2, 2015 @ 8:21 pm

To put this particular cultural dustup in perspective, it should be recalled that, as Indiana’s RFRA was in the final works, the Presbyterian Church of the USA voted to approve same-sex marriage, a relatvely under-reported event that elicited threats to burn down four separate Presbyterian churches in southeast Missouri. The FBI is investigating.

#12 Comment By EngineerScotty On April 2, 2015 @ 8:53 pm

[NFR: I do have an idea, but I am pretty sure your side and its allies are going to acquaint us with it in an intimate way over the decades to come. — RD]

Do you think the police will be raiding churches, rounding up Christians for no reason other than their faith, beating ’em up in the process, and then hauling them off to jail?

I would never support such a thing; and I don’t know anyone among my lefty cohorts who would. I’m sure there are some gay extremists out there who would do exactly that–but not enough to ever impose such a thing.

#13 Comment By Shawn On April 2, 2015 @ 9:46 pm

First you suggest that I’m a “troll” and then you suggest that I’m the same person as Jeff? Any evidence for your claims?

panda, you’re a moron. You have more delusional theories than the birthers or the 9/11 truthers.

#14 Comment By Shawn On April 2, 2015 @ 9:47 pm

“I have no problem with dying for my beliefs. If you have people sent to throw me in prison for my political beliefs I will not go quietly.”

Yeah this is basically a carbon copy of what the Islamist jihadists say. We need to treat Christian jihadists like yourself the same way we deal with Islamist jihadists.

#15 Comment By Isidore The Farmer On April 2, 2015 @ 10:04 pm

“So apparently, “religious persecution” comes with a nearly quarter-million-dollar instant bonus in America in 2015.

No sympathy.” -Rusty

You fail to notice that some people are showing support merely because they are already repulsed by the wickedness of LGBT advocates making their chief targets mom-and-pop business owners, even being willing to get in bed with billionaire CEOs to ensure that the full weight of public shaming is brought down on average Joe citizen in smalltown America. It really is disgusting….

The movement, since it consists of defending a perpetual minority, is sewing the seeds of its own demise. Given that the mass of people just want to be on the winning side (stay with the herd – you don’t honestly think so many Americans support you for rational reasons, do you?) this movement will die at some point. May be 50 years, but people will look back in horror at what LGBT activists did to small businesses after spending two decades crying about only wanting a little bit of privacy and maybe a certificate from the state.

#16 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On April 2, 2015 @ 10:30 pm

The forces that like to whip up hysteria and make otherwise-reasonable people treat each other terribly and stoke outrage seem to be doing a good job.

So many decisions about the IN RFRA and the opposition to it are about divide-and-fundraise political tactics, it seems to me. We need to stop taking the bait.

+100

#17 Comment By Carlo On April 2, 2015 @ 11:40 pm

M_Young:

“The real abomination here is that the ‘O’Connor’ family is making pizzas (and that works both ways). ”

Well, you must understand: it is not easy to make a living selling boiled potatoes.

#18 Comment By Thursday On April 2, 2015 @ 11:57 pm

Tim Cook, billionaire.

Poor forced-into-the-closet thing.

#19 Comment By Michael Guarino On April 3, 2015 @ 12:05 am

+100 to this. This is the natural order of things:

Italians run pizzerias.
Greeks run diners.
Germans and Jews run delis.
The Irish run pubs that serve beer and lamb stew.

Whoa, Italians can run a mean deli too.

#20 Comment By Shawn On April 3, 2015 @ 12:39 am

[Do you think the police will be raiding churches, rounding up Christians for no reason other than their faith, beating ‘em up in the process, and then hauling them off to jail?]

I’d support this for Christian jihadists like Jeff, but not for your average right-wing Christian.

[NFR: You think an American citizen who has done nothing wrong, other than hold obnoxious opinions, should have his church raided, arrested for no reason other than his faith, beaten, and jailed? You are a tyrant who justifies the fears of someone like Jeff. — RD]

#21 Comment By EngineerScotty On April 3, 2015 @ 2:38 am

The real abomination here is that the ‘O’Connor’ family is making pizzas (and that works both ways).

The fifth largest pizza chain in the country is Vancouver, WA-based Papa Murphy’s.

And for corporate take-and-bake pizza, it’s not bad.

Italian beer, on the other hand, remains terrible.

#22 Comment By Str8Grandmother On April 3, 2015 @ 2:46 am

This article has it wrong. This is not a great gay lynch mob, this is grassroots activism. Freedom Indiana tweeted that just through them 20,000 people contacted the Governor. What you fail to grasp is that sexual minorities are at best 4% of the population, and for a hashtag to trend on Twitter there is no way for that to happen if the Tweets were simply men who are gay, women who are lesbian and people who are bi-sexual or transgender, the tweets were coming in at 10,000 AN HOUR at the high point and for days and days remained strong at around 4,000 tweets per hour. What you are not accepting is that we have crossed the Rubicon ( and you can go look up Rubicon), and that the far majority of tweets came from straight people.

To describe it as a Gay Lynch Mob is numerically impossible, it is straight people voicing their opinion that we no longer accept that sexual minorities should be able to be discriminated against based on a persons religious beliefs. There really isn’t any middle ground, either Christians have a right to Discriminate against sexual minorities or they don’t the public just told you which way the culture is today.

I deplore any violence towards anyone, even threats of violence, the owners should definitely file Police Reports for any threats. This is what sexual minorities do when for example people write, ” Faggot” on their apartment door. You contact the police, that is what the police are for. We have seen this before claims of threats but never any police reports produced. As for me I’ll accept that they did receive threats of violence when I see the police reports, or like here that vile threat, threatening to burn them down. But know this goes both ways, there are fring on both sides. I looked at the pics on Yelp, and there were tons of them that said Death to Fags. Tons of them burning the rainbow flag, very violent right wing people posting and not ONE SINGLE violent picture from gays (or gay supporters). Go look at the pictures yourself, you brought up Yelp, so I checked it out, your side is the only ones promoting violence on Yelp.

The tide has turned, what happened is what Inset out to do, basically we Eich-ed Indiana, now all the other States will hear our message. IBM just sent out a press release today in support of Equal Rights for Sexual Minorities, you know about Walmart, you are aware of the uber liberal NCAA, NASCAR, Indy Motor Speedway etc. all those ultra liberal organizations all coming down on the side of NO DISCRIMINATION. Gays can’t change themselves and not be gay, but a baker or a florist or a pizza pie guy can very well find a job or business they can work in and not be in conflict with their religious beliefs. The tide really has turned and you remain a small group alone on the shore, the country has moved progressively forward and decided that a religious belief does not trump NOT serving everyone on Mainstreet. You really are foolish to think this grassroots upheaval was simply a buncha gays, it wasn’t, I was on that hashtag for days and ran the stats through Twitter Analytics. Numerically sexual minorities can never by themselves cause a hashtag to trend on Twitter, and the #BoycottIndiana hashtag trended on and off for 3 days, see it wasn’t a Great Gay Lynch Mob, it just plain wasn’t.

Shall I brand all of you with the same branding iron of the extremists from the right?

#23 Comment By Fran Macadam On April 3, 2015 @ 5:49 am

Supposedly, Canadian PM Harper’s a Christian. Well, in the same way that a liberal democrat can be a Catholic while pushing policies directly contradicting their church’s teachings: Christianity affects their politics and governance not at all. Mr. Harper’s “evangelical Christianity” is really a political epithet conferred upon him by opponents for whom Christianity is a matter of alleged bigotry and hatred, not a matter of his governance. His policies are those of a politician, as so many are, who are garden variety wholly owned corporate puppets. Not surprising since he got his start, from when I knew him over 30 years ago, as a corporate lobbyist.

#24 Comment By Rob G On April 3, 2015 @ 7:50 am

“Tim Cook, billionaire. Poor forced-into-the-closet thing.”

As I wrote on another thread, for a real giggle go to the Human Rights Campaign’s site and have a look-see at their corporate partner list. The pizza joint’s 250 large is a fart in a windstorm by comparison.

Beleaguered minority? When you’ve had the entire media, academia, and entertainment industry on your side, pushing your agenda for thirty years? Don’t make me laugh!

#25 Comment By MH – Secular Misanthropist On April 3, 2015 @ 2:26 pm

Michael Guarino said:

Whoa, Italians can run a mean deli too.

They certainly can, and I live right near an excellent deli run by an Italian family. Their basil, fresh mozzarella, and prosciutto sandwich is awesome.

But sadly this left a pizzeria vacuum that was filled by a Greek family, and it’s exactly the kind of pizza that is an abomination.

#26 Comment By Another Matt On April 3, 2015 @ 7:56 pm

But sadly this left a pizzeria vacuum that was filled by a Greek family, and it’s exactly the kind of pizza that is an abomination.

thanks obama

#27 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On April 4, 2015 @ 12:19 am

Tim Cook, billionaire.

Poor forced-into-the-closet thing.

Sensible commentary.

#28 Comment By MH – Secular Misanthropist On April 4, 2015 @ 8:08 am

@Another Matt, LOL.

#29 Comment By JSmith On April 4, 2015 @ 4:55 pm

My question is: Would you advocate that the pizzeria owners refrain from catering the weddings of girlfriend/wife beaters, alcoholics, drug addicts, fornicators, philanderers, ? Or, are some “sins” simply easier to overlook than others (Ex. “So, he drinks a lot and beats his girlfriend a little”)?

Shouldn’t the pizzeria owners refuse to cater the weddings of the types of sinners above? Then again, doesn’t this notion place some humans squarely in a position to judge others’ sins? (using a quasi Moh’s Hardness Scale for Sins?)

I’m a Christian and I would never presume such a stance. And there are many Christians like myself who are disgusted by the behavior of extremist Christians. Instead of more schisms in Christianity, however, there needs to be peaceful, sincere discourse on how we are going to handle the dichotomy of beliefs among our own people. The implication that one is somehow less of a Christian because one believes Jesus teaches tolerance and love over judging one’s bretheren is only going to push the divide wider at a time when we can ill afford it.

#30 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On April 7, 2015 @ 10:53 pm

My question is: Would you advocate that the pizzeria owners refrain from catering the weddings of girlfriend/wife beaters, alcoholics, drug addicts, fornicators, philanderers,?

I wouldn’t advocate WHAT the pizzeria owners refrain from catering. I would apply simple, straightforward, constitutional principles consistently. Everyone jumping in with “I think this would be a legitimate basis but that would not” is sheer anarchy.

I might note that a wedding is a wedding, so if the pizza owner recognizes the wedding as a wedding, they should perhaps not listen to gossip, and if the wedding is NOT a wedding (as distinct from a bad choice for who to marry), then the pizza owner can say “we don’t do those.”

I am reminded of Justice Stevens’s most horrifyingly subjective dissent, in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, widely recognized in the press just a few short years ago as “a case the Boy Scouts had to win.” Stevens asked at length why and how opposition to homosexuality is “part of the Boy Scouts’ expressive message.” That’s none of his business. THAT the constitution restrains The State from regulating WHAT any voluntary association’s expressive message may or shall be is the only question relevant to the Supreme Court.

#31 Comment By John On April 8, 2015 @ 11:33 am

Welcome to Democracy-which not the rule of law, it’s the rule of the mob. And when the mob hears that someone is even thinking something that doesn’t agree with the mob mentality, they suit up in their motorcycle boots and start stomping ‘haters’; regardless of the facts in the case.

Democracy is great. Ever see the end of the original ‘Frankenstein’ movie? Ask the monster how Democracy worked out for him.