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Our Exhausted Moment

My appearance on the post-left podcast "ex.haust" to talk conservatism, the past, and the future.
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I recently joined TAC contributor Emmet Penney for an interview on his podcast, “ex.haust”—tagline: trying “to understand why it is that despite calamities and rapid change nothing feels possible anymore.” 

Penney wrote an essay for the site titled “Nuclear Power Plants: Our Industrial Cathedrals” that was both a defense of investment in nuclear energy and a semi-formal declaration of parting ways with the American left. Key passage: 

The left’s distaste, and often contempt, for those who have come before us sits side by side with its climate catastrophism. On the one hand, the left wants to escape from history more than it wants to understand it; on the other, they scarcely believe a future is possible. This locks them into a distorted presentism, a survivalism.

We had a great conversation, ostensibly about my blog post “We Are Going to Win” and my response to the blogger Curtis Yarvin, “Roman Rhetoric And Florentine Politics: A Reply To Yarvin”, but in actuality we covered everything from the current state of the conservative movement to technological modernity and international relations. 

Check it out.

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