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Having Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan as VP Doesn’t Help the GOP Ticket

PPP released [1] a poll on Friday showing that Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan hurt the Republican ticket slightly:

Then there are the potential VP’s who hurt Romney- if only slightly. Ron Paul as running mate expands Obama’s lead to 4 points at 48-44, Paul Ryan ups it to 5 at 48-43, Rubio to 6 at 49-43, and Palin to 7 at 50-43.

Some other notes on the poll:

-Rubio’s favorability with Hispanics nationally is 35/42. Without Rubio on the ticket Obama leads Romney 68-30 with them, with Rubio on the ticket it’s cut only to 67-32.

According to this poll, having Ryan or Rubio on the ticket reduces support for the Republican ticket by three points. The poll confirms that adding Rubio as VP nominee makes very little difference with the group his selection is supposed to win over. It also finds that Romney-Rubio and Romney-Ryan tickets alienate the same kinds of voters. Fewer somewhat conservative and very conservative respondents support the ticket when compared with a Romney-Christie combination. Having Ryan as VP loses eight points among somewhat conservative respondents, and Rubio loses five. Moderate voters are a bit more likely to support Obama against either pairing. It’s true that large numbers of respondents are unsure how they view Rubio and Ryan, because they are still unknown to many Americans, but it is telling that their favorability ratings among those that have an opinion are negative. Among women, Rubio and Ryan are viewed much less favorably with 23/29% for Rubio and 19/29% for Ryan, and even among men Ryan’s favorability is negative (32/39%).

So why should anyone care? It is useful to remember just how relatively unpopular and nationally unknown these two politicians are when so many Republicans are certain [2] that one or both of them would be a great addition to the presidential ticket. Setting aside for the moment the small problem that neither of them is qualified to be next in line to the Presidency, I am impressed by how far inside their own bubble so many Republicans must be that they don’t understand that Rubio and Ryan would make poor running mates.

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#1 Comment By Hamilton Fan On April 23, 2012 @ 9:14 am

It appears Romney needs to choose someone that all Americans like, not just Republicans. Clearly, Christie and all the other people mentioned in the PPP poll do not meet that standard.

Maybe Jon Huntsman is the guy. He had an 80% approval rating as governor of Utah. Of course, a double Mormon ticket would not go over well with the religious right. I can’t think of any other Republican that is liked by people other than Republicans. Kelly Ayotte, maybe.

#2 Comment By IanH On April 23, 2012 @ 10:35 am

Yes, I’m certain they’re going to choose the guy who recently compared the party to communist China.

#3 Comment By superdestroyer On April 24, 2012 @ 5:14 am

typical Daniel. Nitpick Republicans without offering any alterantives.

Using the PPP polling, who would be the best VP candidate for the Republicand to nominate. I guess Daniel does not like offering concrete suggestions because it gives others a chance to nitpick Daniel.

#4 Comment By Lev On April 24, 2012 @ 8:56 am

@superdestroyer: What is this fixation of yours on Daniel needing to offer alternatives? Is Mitt Romney reading this site? (Clearly not.) Then what difference does it make? I do not think authors are required to pander to the emotional needs of every commenter.

#5 Comment By tbraton On April 24, 2012 @ 11:27 am

“typical Daniel. Nitpick Republicans without offering any alterantives.”

Daniel has previously indicated that Rob Portman would be selected as Romney’s running mate. I believe he gave reasons why Portman would be a good pick. Although I didn’t agree with him at the time (I picked Gov. Bob McDonnel of Virginia), that was before the anti-abortion mess in Virginia, which probably doomed McDonnel’s chances. Portman looks like a good pick at this time, and he probably has the inside track.

#6 Comment By Blue Shark On April 24, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

Lieberman isn’t doing much.

…He is loved by all republicans as a Democratic traitor and he makes Democrats froth at the mouth.

…It would be good to see Romney/Lieberman go down in epic flames.

#7 Comment By superdestroyer On April 25, 2012 @ 3:18 am


Then how does Portman score on the PPP polling. If that is the standard that Daniel wants to use, then he should use it to analyze the candidate the he supports.

My guess is that Daniel does not like to make proposals since it allows others to nitpciked him. That is one of the problems of being a nitpickers, those nitpickers become reluctant to make any proposals of their own and just feel comfortable reviewing others.

#8 Comment By tbraton On April 25, 2012 @ 6:26 am

“Then how does Portman score on the PPP polling. If that is the standard that Daniel wants to use, then he should use it to analyze the candidate the he supports.”

I didn’t mean to suggest that Daniel “supports” Portsman, any more than I supported McDonnell. He merely indicated who he thought was likely to be Romney’s VP selection out of a list propounded by another website at the time. The fact that Portman is from the crucial state of Ohio obviously played a big role in Daniel’s pick, as did his experience in economic matters as a result of his work as head of OMB and Trade Representative. Unlike Rubio, Portsman does have a great deal of experience to commend him, as well as a record of success in running for political office, first as a Congressman from Ohio and later as Senator.

#9 Comment By Daniel Larison On April 25, 2012 @ 7:04 am

All that anyone needs to do to find out what the other match-ups were is to click through to the PPP site. For whatever reason, PPP did not ask about a Romney-Portman ticket, which is an oversight on their part. Instead, they asked about extremely implausible match-ups that included Palin and Huckabee. For the record, according to a CNN survey on Republican preferences for VP, Portman is much less well-known nationally (and therefore scores poorly in the survey), but because of that he hasn’t yet alienated large numbers of people. I still assume Portman is the most likely person to be chosen as the VP candidate, as I have written in at least three posts on the subject.

#10 Comment By superdestroyer On April 27, 2012 @ 3:32 am


Your three posts where you addressed Portman said very little about Portman but where just more excuses to criticize Rubio, Romney, Palin, Huckabee, and Santorum.

It seems to be that you you are defaulting to Portman because you detest him the least.