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Prideful Left Eats Itself

Crackpottery in Chicago: [1]

However, the Dyke March Collective also ejected three people carrying Jewish Pride flags (a rainbow flag with a Star of David in the center).

According to one of those individuals—A Wider Bridge Midwest Manager Laurel Grauer—she and her friends were approached a number of times in the park because they were holding the flag.

“It was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity which I have done for over a decade marching in the Dyke March with the same flag,” she told Windy City Times.

She added that she lost count of the number of people who harassed her.

One Dyke March collective member asked by Windy City Times for a response, said the women were told to leave because the flags “made people feel unsafe,” that the march was “anti-Zionist” and “pro-Palestinian.”

“They were telling me to leave because my flag was a trigger to people that they found offensive,” Grauer said. “Prior to this [march] I had never been harassed or asked to leave and I had always carried the flag with me.”

Another of those individuals asked to leave was an Iranian Jew named Eleanor Shoshany-Anderson.

“I was here as a proud Jew in all of my identities,” Shoshany-Anderson asserted. “The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don’t know why my identity is excluded from that. I fell that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here.”

A statement posted June 25 on the Dyke March Twitter account read, in part, “Sadly, our celebration of dyke, queer and trans solidarity was partly overshadowed by our decision to ask three individuals carrying Israeli flags superimposed on rainbow flags to leave the rally. This decision was made after they repeatedly expressed support for Zionism during conversations with Dyke March Collective members.”

Even more crackpottery in Chicago: a group of LGBT radicals protested the Pride parade, issuing this statement. [2] Excerpt:

Trans and queer communities, leading groups of accomplices, gather in a unified stance against the annual Chicago Pride Parade and Festival. We disavow the numerous atrocities done to the legacies of our ancestors and foremothers in the movement for trans and queer liberation, and the ever-increasing corporatization, whitewashing, gentrification, racism, and cisnormativity that have infused Pride for decades. This year, like so many years before, our communities have reached a breaking point.

The trans community of Chicago has risen up to explicitly denounce the Chicago Pride Parade and Festival, and to announce our intention to once again form our own spaces, to better serve and represent our own pride and liberation. The Compton’s Cafeteria Riots and the Stonewall Riots are how we mark the legacy of Pride: Strong, proud, and unapologetic trans resistance in the face of a world that continues to prefer our bodies as corpses in the ground, rather than revolutionaries in the streets.

Black Lives Matter Chicago is part of this event:

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BLM in NYC is also boycotting its local Pride parades, because intersectionality.

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What’s so interesting, and paradoxical, about the intersectionality insanity is that for all its intention to promote solidarity across various communities, it ensures that the masses won’t have anything to do with the causes these extremists promote.

To a point, that is. For all the chortling social conservatives may be doing about intersectionality and the militant left’s apparent self-sabotage, the joke may ultimately be on us. Don’t look to the Social Justice Warrior berserkers for a sign of the times. Look to the center. Fact is, the Overton Window [10] — the frame that sets the bounds of public discourse — has moved phenomenally far to the left regarding LGBT discourse. When the standard-bearer of clean, family-friendly comedy — a guy who has been frequently lauded for his public Catholicism [11] — tweets out something like what you see below, well, it’s fair to say that Times Have Changed. It is far more culturally significant that a figure like Jim Gaffigan does this than that fringey LGBT radicals get all ragey and Jew-hating:

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#1 Comment By jaybird On June 26, 2017 @ 10:27 am

As an extremely lackadaisical mainline Presbyterian, I have zero issue with pride parades and gay marriage and all of that stuff, so long as the people involved are actually, you know, gay. What I don’t understand, and find completely bizarre is the relentless virtue-signalling by straight/heterosexual people, of the sort like the JG tweet posted above. It would just never occur to me as a heterosexual to run around waving a rainbow flag, or to vocally proclaim myself to be an “ally” or whatever the current favored jargon is. Maybe it’s just me, as I’ve never been one to really get into “causes” and such, but stuff like Gaffigan’s post just seems like really forced and phony bandwagoning to me.

#2 Comment By MikeCLT On June 26, 2017 @ 10:37 am

Antisemitism is a rising rapidly among the left. My father has over 25 years doing volunteer work in NYC among the mentally ill and special needs homeless. It worries him greatly.

Those who object to white privilege look at Jews and see the whitest and most privileged group.

It should make for interesting politics for the next decade or so.

#3 Comment By Elijah On June 26, 2017 @ 11:11 am

Forgive me if I’m being dense, but what exactly does Gaffigan’s tweet even mean? Are we to assume his children in the photo have come out? At all those ages? Or does he just mean he’s proud of his kids for waving the rainbow flag and expressing some kind of hashtag solidarity?

[NFR: The latter. — RD]

#4 Comment By Leslie Fain On June 26, 2017 @ 11:21 am

I have a couple of sincere questions for people who support gay marriage:

1) Do you have any qualms about children attending a gay pride parade? Why or why not? If you’ve never been, even as a supporter of gay marriage, Google photos online before you answer.

2) Do you think there could be a point that you, as a gay marriage supporter, will tire of the Pride marketing push?

Leslie

#5 Comment By Will Harrington On June 26, 2017 @ 11:23 am

Neguy

The funny thing is you believe this. No, I’m afraid these lunatics don’t get the credit. They don’t have the power or voice to move the “Overton Window”. That takes money and the long term goal is the same goal the Bolsheviks had. Get rid of any mediating institutions that may be competition for the power. In the case of the Bolsheviks, it was the state. Here, it is clearly a corporate/state complex but I’m afraid the real power lies with the moneyed interests that control corporations and can use that money to direct the state through buying politicians (perfectly legal now). No, I’m afraid the SJW’s have been nothing more than useful idiots who will, eventually, be purged. Lord, I hope I am wrong!

#6 Comment By Justin On June 26, 2017 @ 11:43 am

I’ve always been suspicious of Jim Gaffigan, ever since I heard him on NPR in July 2016 talking about how he reconciles his Catholicism with his pro-gay values.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, “THE JIM GAFFIGAN SHOW”)

“JON BENJAMIN: (As Kevin Ferguson) Well, he [fictional CEO in the Gaffigan Show] hasn’t seen your comedy, but he likes that you work clean and that you have five kids. Jim, you’d be the perfect person to represent our company and reflect our American values, like pro-community.

GAFFIGAN: (As Jim Gaffigan) That’s me.

BENJAMIN: (As Kevin Ferguson) Pro-family.

GAFFIGAN: (As Jim Gaffigan) That’s me.

BENJAMIN: (As Kevin Ferguson) The repudiation of homosexuality.

GAFFIGAN: (As Jim Gaffigan) That’s – that’s not me.

GROSS: (Laughter) So that’s probably a pretty good example of what you’re afraid of…

GAFFIGAN: Yeah.

GROSS: That people will associate you with values that you don’t share.

GAFFIGAN: Yeah. You know, I grew up in a Catholic family in the Midwest. And I knew people of different faiths and people that were atheists and people that were agnostic. And it really never came up, but I think that in present-day America, they’re – you know, and I touched on it in the initial clip – is that we are in the middle of this culture war. And there’s a quote in this episode where I say, I just want to talk about avocados. And some of it is – I do just want to do jokes. I don’t want to be a divisive figure. I don’t want to pick a team. I want to make people laugh and hopefully bring some – be humorous about the human experience, you know, whether they’re people of any stripes of life.”

Source: [16]

What a sycophant. What else are gay pride flags but icons of the “winning” team?

#7 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On June 26, 2017 @ 12:06 pm

In a few years those kids waving the rainbow flag will hit puberty, and then they will know what they are. They will hide all the old photos of their intersectional youth.

This is the beginning of the end of the One Big Happy Family theory of social change. The truth is there are gay Jews, gay Palestinians, gay Nazis, gay communists, gay plutocrats, gay industrial workers, and there are some of each who despise gays. There are communists who love Israel and communists who hate Israel. (Lenin endorse the Balfour declaration, Stalin case all three of the USSR’s votes in the UN for partition — something I never tire of throwing in the face of Maoists and our present day infantile disorders.) There are women feminists who are pro-Palestinian and despise gay men. Etc. etc. etc.

So the more touchstones you have for purity, the smaller your base will be.

Nuke a gay whale for Jesus. And beware the privilege of bald left-handed Mexican homosexual women of Chinese descent.

#8 Comment By MaryWinn On June 26, 2017 @ 12:14 pm

You have the most intelligent commenters. I learn so much from the comments on your blog.

#9 Comment By Naturalmom On June 26, 2017 @ 12:21 pm

Well, Gaffigan is on the boycott list now. So is Rice Krispies.

It is everyone’s right to make their own shopping decisions, but I absolutely refuse to start vetting my shopping list according to politics. If a company is *actively* behaving badly, I will consider a boycott. (I’m not buying bottled water from the company that is rapidly sucking ground water out of a community in my state against the residents’ wishes, for example.) Otherwise, I’m going to make my decision based on the product and service. I just don’t have time or emotional energy for political shopping. So bring on Rice Krispies AND Chick-fil-A. I will listen to any comedian I think is funny and not worry about what rallies they attend off stage.

[NFR: That’s me. — RD]

#10 Comment By Oakinhou On June 26, 2017 @ 12:22 pm

“1) Do you have any qualms about children attending a gay pride parade? Why or why not? If you’ve never been, even as a supporter of gay marriage, Google photos online before you answer.”

You could go yourself to one and see that, for every person in the pics you Googled, which come out fairly late in the parade, and are not worse than a Mardi Gras parade (which is also unsuitable for children), 99% of the parade consists of very normally looking people, looking very normally dresses, and marching in representation of almost every association you can think of, including several Christian churches and Jewish communities, representatives from the police and the armed forces, corporations (hi Macy’s parade), politicians, etc.

There’s also plenty of hotdog and pretzel vendors, music bands (and in Texas, in fenced areas, beer booths)

And there’s always people in the corners with God hates people of the same sex attracted variety (shortened with the f-word) that play the role of the Quuen’s guards in Buckingham Palace. You start next to them making faces for pictures to post on Facebook.

And yes, children, lots of children, because children loves parades, and give a rat’s posterior about what the parade is about.

Go to one. You might find that seeing real gay people (like, I don’t know, the former Army Secretary, the Prime Minister of Ireland, the honorable junior Senator from Wisconsin, or the CEO of Apple) is enlightening.

#11 Comment By Jared On June 26, 2017 @ 12:45 pm

“For all the chortling social conservatives may be doing about intersectionality and the militant left’s apparent self-sabotage…”

I understand why so-cons want to chortle and make jokes about it, but I think this situation is far too dangerous for that.

As you have said in other posts, if this is what they are doing to their allies and friends, what is it going to look like when they turn all that rage and anger on those they deem as their enemies? We need to be prepared for that, because it will not be pretty. Not at all…

#12 Comment By elizabeth On June 26, 2017 @ 1:10 pm

Pride is an establishment institution to the young un-and-comers in the world of Perpetual New Victims. But there are also younger gay folks who, having not experienced the closet that their gay elders had to fight their way out of, are asking what there is to be proud of. After all, they were born this way, so being gay hardly counts as an achievement. For them, Pride is just a street costume party.

Things are always changing. Some gay activists were appalled, back in the 80s, when SSM and the rights of gay parents came to the forefront as “gay” issues. I remember withering references to “homosexual families” said with disdain. This was about the same time that vocal gay parents were telling the more radical members of their “community” that they were fed up with the pro-pederasty crowd, sick of being identified with them, and to stay away from kids.

#13 Comment By elizabeth On June 26, 2017 @ 1:11 pm

Doh!

“Up” and comers.

#14 Comment By Kevin On June 26, 2017 @ 1:27 pm

“Well, Gaffigan is on the boycott list now. So is Rice Krispies. Rice Krispies Treats is tweeting their rainbow packaging in “honor” of gay pride, with the hashtag #loveIsLove. I feel bombarded!

Wait, I thought that boycotts were an expression of the irrepressible totalitarianism of the West?

#15 Comment By Ellimist000 On June 26, 2017 @ 2:10 pm

Beth,

“I’m beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land.”

Assuming you are Christian, the fact that you haven’t until now is exactly why those values are becoming more irrelevant to the public square.

Justin,

“What a sycophant. What else are gay pride flags but icons of the “winning” team?”

You’re not wrong, though I don’t see what is wrong with picking a team, especially when the cost of the rainbow team’s victories has been outstandingly more benign to their opponents than if the roles were reversed. I know Rod means no malice when he refers there being something wrong with trans behaviors, for example, but an unfortunate number of conservatives would probably resort to sanitariums and forced invasive therapies if they could get away with it.

#16 Comment By MKW On June 26, 2017 @ 2:12 pm

“1) Do you have any qualms about children attending a gay pride parade? Why or why not? If you’ve never been, even as a supporter of gay marriage, Google photos online before you answer.”

None whatsoever – and I did go to Chicago’s Pride Parade (the real one, not the one this story is about) yesterday with my 15 year old. It was fun and and perilously close to genuinely family friendly. The most “shocking” things I saw were some scantily clad (but not so scantily as to run afoul of normal laws regarding public indecency) drag queens and a woman, part of an anti-circumcision group, who was very, very pregnant and dressed in nothing but the briefest of briefs and pasties, roller skating around carrying a sign saying she was not going to circumcise her child. I’ve seen plenty of bikini tops at the local swimming pool which covered less than those pasties.

#17 Comment By Just Dropping By On June 26, 2017 @ 2:14 pm

Do you have any qualms about children attending a gay pride parade? Why or why not? If you’ve never been, even as a supporter of gay marriage, Google photos online before you answer.

I would respectfully suggest that not every Pride parade looks the same. Denver’s Pride parade is pretty much G-to-PG-rated in terms of content (I’ve never seen any nudity, simulated sex, or other graphic behavior that I considered unacceptable for children and I’m a parent of two).

#18 Comment By Ellimist000 On June 26, 2017 @ 2:15 pm

Rod, I’m with you, the circular firing squad is absolute nonsense. But that problem, as evidenced by the metaphor, solves itself. Please just keep in mind that not all or most leftist activists, while they certainly care about a lot of intersecting (and generally legitimate) issues, don’t act this way.

Don’t let this stuff be used as an excuse not to work with people on truly important things.

#19 Comment By minimammal On June 26, 2017 @ 2:44 pm

I just read “While Europe Slept” by Bruce Bawer (who happens to be gay) and in discussing the idiotic kneejerk anti-America/anti-Isarel sentiment of Europeans, he described a Holocaust memorial march in Norway in which Jews were kicked out because they were carrying Israeli flags. This is just one instance of what Bawer states is the growth of anti-Semitism in Europe –
both by native Europeans and recent Muslim immigrants.

The Left is so schizophrenic. Leftists are quick to memorialize the Holocaust and denounce anything they determine to be Nazi or fascist, yet they are now engaging in anti-Semitic discrimination because the Palestinians (and by extension, all Muslims) are the oppressed people du jour. To paraphrase a line from Bawer’s book, the Left only cares about dead Jews.

#20 Comment By theOtherWill On June 26, 2017 @ 2:45 pm

Intersectionality: The theory that because racism, sexism, classism, homophobia, trans-phobia, patriarchy, capitalism, and colonialism form an intersecting, interlocking system of oppression, every problem, anywhere in the world, is the fault of straight white men.

#21 Comment By minimammal On June 26, 2017 @ 2:53 pm

While I commend Gaffigan for his public unabashed support for large families and family values, I am not surpised by his sickening, pandering tweet. He is a comedian who depends upon broad public support to make a living, so of course he is going to openly support the reigning noxious zeitgeist, even if it is in direct opposition to his supposed faith. It’s just sad that he had to include his children in it…

#22 Comment By OMM 0910 On June 26, 2017 @ 2:57 pm

#23 Comment By Jesse On June 26, 2017 @ 3:37 pm

It’s weird, in a country where you can see heads being blown off or guts being disembowled in any number of horror or action films it’s insanely easy for any unwatched child to find on Netflix or cable, the true horror is that some kids might at worse, see some male nudity, people wearing weird things, or two girls making out.

#24 Comment By Justin On June 26, 2017 @ 3:53 pm

Ellimist000, yes. The problem is not with choosing sides, but with saying that you’re not choosing sides–and then choosing sides, like Jim Gaffigan does.

I don’t think sanitariums or forced invasive therapies are the answer, either. Time and again, I go back to this Michael O’Hannon article “Against Heterosexuality,” which claims that the heterosexual/homosexual paradigm of late 19th century psychiatry discourse was a mistake: [17]

We were much better off framing our arguments from within the familial-teleological-chastity paradigm.

For my conservative friends that recommend sanitariums and forced invasive therapies, I suggest that they read Richard Vatz, Thomas Szasz, Phillip Rieff, and Christopher Lasch–among others–for intelligent critiques of psychiatry and the “triumph of the therapeutic.” Because of the human agency involved, these are moral issues, not issues of “healthy” and “sick.”

#25 Comment By Marshman545 On June 26, 2017 @ 4:31 pm

WRT the Dyke March: To paraphrase Alasdair MacIntyre, “whose social justice, which intersectionality”

#26 Comment By Fiestamom On June 26, 2017 @ 4:44 pm

Let’s be honest, didn’t Rice Krispies and Jim Gaffigan boycott me? They made a conscious decision to go political and possibly alienate Christian customers. Has Jim Gaffigan ever posted a picture of his children attending the March for Life? Why not? I bet there are a lot more marchers in DC than for the pride parade.

#27 Comment By JonF On June 26, 2017 @ 6:26 pm

RE: Antisemitism is a rising rapidly among the left.

Be wary of confusing criticism and opposition to the policies of the state of Israel with anti-semitism. I know a decent number of people on the Left and I am in regular communication with them via social
media. Yes, there’s lots of strident anti-Israel; sentiment, some of which I agree with, some of which is (IMO) over the top. But I have to encounter outright hatred of Jewish people qua Jewish people. That sort of thing I only seem to en encounter from (some) of the denizens of the alt-right and some of the kookier Christian cultic groups.

#28 Comment By Weldon On June 26, 2017 @ 7:28 pm

>Intersectionality: The theory that because racism, sexism, classism, homophobia, trans-phobia, patriarchy, capitalism, and colonialism form an intersecting, interlocking system of oppression, every problem, anywhere in the world, is the fault of straight white men.

Sigh. The opposite. It was coined by an African American feminist making the argument that the “intersection” (get it?) of black activism and feminist activism don’t form a linear sum, because the experience of being a black woman can’t be understood by simply understanding the black experience and understanding the female experience, with the result that black women would frequently be shut down by both black men and white women.

I mean, seriously, *literally the entire point of the theory* is that you can’t reduce things to something as simple as “it’s all white men’s fault” like the post-colonialists would.

#29 Comment By Tony D. On June 26, 2017 @ 8:06 pm

I could go google it (“intersectionality”), but I imagine that most of what I’d turn up would be gibberish.

Well that would be about right…see “postmodern” ca. about 30 years ago…

#30 Comment By Liam On June 26, 2017 @ 8:35 pm

“I mean, seriously, *literally the entire point of the [intersectionality] theory* is that you can’t reduce things to something as simple as “it’s all white men’s fault” like the post-colonialists would.”

Correct. Commentators and journalists aping commentators have seized on the word for its shibboleth value without paying attention to substance. When I see the word used, I come to assume it’s a red flag for lazy argument until proven otherwise by the author’s demonstration of careful thought.

#31 Comment By Jace the Dope Smoker On June 26, 2017 @ 11:57 pm

“Sigh. The opposite. It was coined by an African American feminist making the argument that the “intersection” (get it?) of black activism and feminist activism don’t form a linear sum, because the experience of being a black woman can’t be understood by simply understanding the black experience and understanding the female experience, with the result that black women would frequently be shut down by both black men and white women.”

And thus, the more “intersections” one has to self pathologize the greater ones inherent virtue in the Pyramid of Victimhood. In case you haven’t noticed, victimhood has become a form of currency, and there’s a gold rush on.

In opposition to victimhood lies the Oppressor Pyramid with Straight White Men at the top. So yes, it’s reduced to “it’s all white men’s fault” far more often than not.

In life, very few people outside your “identity circle” care about your naval gazing public therapy session.

#32 Comment By dd On June 27, 2017 @ 12:25 am

It’s really astounding the depth and breadth of the left’s growing anti-Semitism.

“Jewish Groups Condemn ‘Antisemitic’ Exclusion of Marchers From Chicago LGBT Rights Parade Over Star of David Flags”

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#33 Comment By JonF On June 27, 2017 @ 6:27 am

Hi Leslie Fain,
I went to a gay pride parade in St Petersburg when I lived there. It was all very bourgeois and faux transgressive. There were Gay Parents pushing kids in strollers. In fact there were even Gay Republicans. The few attempts to be edgy (leather men; Dykes on Bikes; and of course the occasional evening gowned drag queen) were as dull as a rusty old butter knife. No one was garbed any skimpier than you would see on a beach. And corporate sponsorship was everywhere.

The only moral outrage present came a from a small group of Westboro Baptist wanna-bes protesting the event. They had young young children with them. One little boy had a sign reading “Go to Hell Homos!” And another carried two male dolls lashed together with a noose around their necks. I was reminded of old photos of children dressed in Klan robes.

#34 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On June 27, 2017 @ 9:39 am

the experience of being a black woman can’t be understood by simply understanding the black experience and understanding the female experience

Well, on that basis, identity politics will be reduced to such a large number of very tiny fractals that we might as well say, each individual is unique, and individuals vary.

#35 Comment By KELLY On June 27, 2017 @ 9:22 pm

Would it kill anybody on the right to actually learn what the word “intersectionality” means before doing a thinkpiece on it (or, rather, *not* on it, but mentioning it anyways)? Both you and Sullivan did this within a week of each other.

Educate us. Seriously.

I’ve heard intersectionality mentioned a lot, but I’d be hard put to define it in any way that holds water for 5 minutes. I could go google it, but I imagine that most of what I’d turn up would be gibberish.

Here’s a definition:
“At the core of intersectional feminism is the belief that oppressed people know more about life in general. Black females have suffered more than white females; so white females should listen to them and speak less, while white men, who are brimming with privilege (whether they’re from Appalachia or Beverly Hills), must listen to everyone. Intersectional feminism, born of an internecine struggle within feminism over the black/white issue, has since added numerous other categories of the underprivileged, including non-native speakers of English, Jews, and the physically unattractive.”

Math, science and even language are considered to be tools of patriarchal oppression….. It’s a circular philosophy and literally one cannot see their way out of it. Whiteness is the original sin except there is no atonement nor forgiveness. Just eternal damnation.
(Oddly enough the theory fits in perfectly with the socialist lefts economical solutions as well. No matter that every single country who had a truly socialist gov’t were the most murderous oppressive regimes in all of human history. But then again history is oppression by white supremists as well, so you know….

#36 Comment By Brendan from Oz On June 28, 2017 @ 2:18 am

Intersectionality has moved on from Kimberle Crenshaw, and was made prominant by Patricia Hill Collins and the “matirix of domination”, “interlocking oppression”, “vectors of oppression and privilege” etc. Among others, of course.

Crenshaw focused on gender and race for the most part, along with critical race theory.

Guess who the oppressors turn out to be?

#37 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On June 29, 2017 @ 10:41 am

Kelly’s comment neatly exemplifies that newly made-up words and phrases mean whatever the speaker or writer du jour wishes them to mean, and thus, they mean nothing at all. Its a Humpty Dumpty game, and generally an expression of individual pathos, not objective reality.

Of course I said the same about that muddled product of speculative sociology, “More Therapeutic Deism.”

[NFR: It’s not “speculative sociology”; it’s sociology. — RD]

#38 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On June 29, 2017 @ 4:33 pm

NFR: It’s not “speculative sociology”; it’s sociology. — RD

That’s the nicest thing I’ve heard Rod say about the social sciences in a LONG time. So I guess when we shut down all these departments infested with LGBTQWERTY down with whitey anti-male junk, we must take care to find employment for the authors of that particular study that generated a term some conservatives like to employ?

From everything posted and linked here over the past few years, it has consistently seemed to me that the authors observed some inchoate in-between uncertainties in the data, and speculatively bestowed a name upon it, a phrase which they made up at the time for that purpose. Not unlike another made-up term, “intersectionality.”

#39 Comment By JonF On June 30, 2017 @ 6:19 am

Re: Oddly enough the theory fits in perfectly with the socialist lefts economical solutions as well.

Huh? So universal healthcare and a living wage are to be dismissed out of hand simply because you assert they are somehow connected to a lot of academic feminist jargon?

Re: No matter that every single country who had a truly socialist gov’t were the most murderous oppressive regimes in all of human history.

Change “Socialist” to “Communist” and you approach a true statement (although not quite because you’d still be ignoring those guys with swastikas). Of course “truly Socialist” means you are shacking up with the good old “No True Scotsman” fallacy.

#40 Comment By Fran Macadam On June 30, 2017 @ 6:48 am

“I went to a gay pride parade in St Petersburg when I lived there. It was all very bourgeois…”

Yeah, nothing wrong, except those who see something wrong with it, and we know those are all only Westboro Baptist troglodytes…

But personal experience away from PR stunts teaches otherwise:

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whose more recent direct experiences mirror my own earlier on.

#41 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On June 30, 2017 @ 1:22 pm

Contra Fran Macadam, I have no problem with people who want to organize a gay pride parade getting the usual permit and holding their parade. I just don’t see any reason anyone should feel obligated to come support it. And if a float violates public obscenity laws, the perps should be arrested without regard to race, creed, color, or sexual orientation.