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‘My Once Beautiful Daughter’

Parents of kids who think they are transgender speak out [1] — and it is gripping. Excerpts:

At age sixteen, my daughter ran away and reported to the Department of Child Services that she felt unsafe living with me because I refused to refer to her using male pronouns or her chosen male name. Although the Department investigated and found she was well cared for, they forced me to meet with a trans-identified person to “educate” me on these issues. Soon after, without my knowledge, a pediatric endocrinologist taught my daughter—a minor—to inject herself with testosterone. My daughter then ran away to Oregon where state law allowed her—at the age of seventeen, without my knowledge or consent—to change her name and legal gender in court, and to undergo a double mastectomy and a radical hysterectomy.

My once beautiful daughter is now nineteen years old, homeless, bearded, in extreme poverty, sterilized, not receiving mental health services, extremely mentally ill, and planning a radial forearm phalloplasty (a surgical procedure that removes part of her arm to construct a fake penis).

From another mother:

My daughter is now twenty, has been on testosterone for a year, and has made an appointment for a consult about a double mastectomy—all this, even though she can’t legally buy an alcoholic drink. I can’t get any answers from doctors in response to my questions and concerns about the risks of these “treatments.” I get no answers from mental health professionals about what makes this treatment appropriate . . . or what makes my daughter different from those young women who are “no longer trans” and have de-transitioned, sometimes after being on hormones for years. Having to watch these adults enable my daughter to do this with no medical science to back it up is a scenario that I never dreamed any parent would have to face, at least not in the United States. But this is our reality now—a reality that the mainstream media won’t touch.

One more:

I was shocked when my thirteen-year-old daughter told me she was really my transgender son. She had no masculine interests and hated all sports. But as a smart, quirky teen on the autism spectrum, she had a long history of not fitting in with girls.

Where did she get the idea she was transgender? From a school presentation—at a school where over 5 percent of the student body called themselves trans or nonbinary, and where several students were already on hormones, and one had a mastectomy at the age of sixteen. In my daughter’s world—in real life and online—transgender identities are common, and hormones and surgeries are no big deal.

I took her to a gender clinician seeking expert guidance. Instead, he accepted her new identity and told me I must refer to my daughter with masculine pronouns, call her by a masculine name, and buy her a binder to flatten her breasts. He recommended no therapy, and there was no consideration of the social factors that obviously affected her thinking. I was directed to put her on puberty blocking drugs. I was falsely assured that these drugs were well-studied, and that they were a perfectly safe way for her to “explore gender.” I was told that if I did not comply, she would be at higher risk of suicide.

I have nowhere to go for proper help. Therapists are actively trained and socially pressured not to question these increasingly common identities. In Washington, DC, and many states with so-called conversion therapy bans, questioning a child’s belief that she is of the opposite sex is against the law.

I have been living this nightmare for over four years. And despite my best efforts, my daughter plans to medically transition when she turns eighteen later this year.

Read it all.  [1]

You think it can’t happen to your family. You’re wrong. This suicidal culture of ours is propagandizing children in school and on the Internet, and the authorities have sided with biological nihilism, against parents.

And there are people who think Donald Trump is our real problem.

Why aren’t the Republicans in Congress holding hearings about this, and considering legislation to regulate this out-of-control situation? No doubt for the same reason the media won’t touch it: everybody is terrified of being called a bigot.

Again and again, I go back to MacIntyre:

A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead—often not recognising fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct [one characterized by moral incoherence and unsettlable moral disputes in the modern world], we ought to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time however the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time. And it is our lack of consciousness of this that constitutes part of our predicament. We are waiting not for a Godot, but for another—doubtless very different—St. Benedict.

This culture of ours is not going to be reformed. It’s going to destroy itself. Liquid modernity is a great and catastrophic Flood. In the next post, I’m going to say more about that. But look: take the Benedict Option. [2] Get your kids out of these schools if you can, and if you can’t, stop at nothing to protect them from the propaganda of this world. Build arks for your family and your neighbors. Make contact with others who are building them elsewhere. Form an armada. Prepare to take on survivors among the shipwrecked, and to sail on to solid ground.

UPDATE: Seriously.

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I have a kid who just turned 15, and has to be reminded to take Advil when he has a head cold. And this doctor believes that a 14-year-old is capable of meaningfully consenting to the injection of hormones?! Totalitarian madness.

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#1 Comment By Gus Nelson On March 1, 2019 @ 6:59 pm

I didn’t read all the comments, so maybe this has been said – if so, please forgive me.

Do we not see that this is simply the trajectory that was inevitable when society became atomized by taking individual liberty to its ultimate extreme? I am 55 years old. This has been what I’ve observed since I started paying attention to social issues in the late 70’s. We have made the self into an idol. As a result, we cannot have standards of almost any kind except the standard that self rules everything. The obvious problem is that my version of self and yours may clash and there is no method for adjudicating between which self gets to be itself – except the selves that have power.

So, Rod, this is the new reality. Get used to it because those in power want this – it gives them a way of controlling us.

#2 Comment By JEinCA On March 1, 2019 @ 7:26 pm

Rod My Orthodox Brother,

I’m afraid that here in the West where Liquid Modernity has taken hold your Benedict Option will be outlawed. They won’t let you protect your children from being indoctrinated with this insanity.

That would leave us traditionals with just two options. Fight or Flight and when I say fight I’m not talking about “words”. I’m talking about a militant, armed resistance. If we’re not willing to go there we better start packing our bags and looking for places on the globe that would take us in as refugees and allow us to raise our families in peace as Christians. I’m afraid we’re at this moment in America.

#3 Comment By Roy Fassel On March 1, 2019 @ 7:43 pm

In other words: If those endocrine disruptors, all the hormones injected into livestock, the chemicals used as a dessicant on commercial crops, the plastics, etc. are indeed having any significant impact on human health, human sexuality or sexual identity – would we ever know about it? Who would own up? Or would we, as an alternate course, attempt to remake our society as more “inclusive” so there might be a rightful place for those whose lives, identities and bodies were impacted by all this?
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Kgasmart!

You are spot on, but many want to blame all of these aberrations to the evil, left winged liberals and “woke”…whatever that means. The hormones pumped into factory farm animals is the most likely cause of this crisis.

For goodness sake, it was discovered after many years that lead in gasoline and lead in paint caused serious brain dysfunctions. These unnatural environmental conditions more than likely have an impact on this transgender situation. These poor souls are what they are and not what we want them to be.

This then becomes a serious mental health issue. To suggest “cures” is as foolish as “curing” homesexuality with consultation and prayer. These people need professional care AND UNDERSTANDING. Homeschooling is not the answer.

Neither homosexuality nor transgender conditions is a choice. Of course, many will disagree.

#4 Comment By Marie On March 1, 2019 @ 8:04 pm

MrsCole’s comments resonated so deeply with me. I do not have autism (to my knowledge) but I was very sensitive and scored high on IQ tests as a child and school was excruciating for me socially. I developed an eating disorder throughout high school and college and though there were several factors, I think MrsCole brilliantly called out part of the problem:

“Transitioning means you can exit the bloodsport that is adolescent female status-jockeying. It also renders you sexually unattractive to men– and therefore much more safe from them.”

Despite feminism, our hyper-sexualized culture has contributed to definitions of “feminine” and “masculine” that are narrower than ever and women are thrown into this confusing world at a young age with no social sanctions to protect them. Is it any wonder that kids who don’t fit into these rigid roles, or feel unprepared for it all, think there’s something wrong them? It’s not even enough for young girls to be pretty, they have to be “hot.” And though we used to have tactful words like “plain” to describe women that weren’t particularly attractive, now they are “ugly.” On top of that, they are so young that they don’t understand the cyclical nature of laughter and tears that comes with age and so think their current pain is all there is and will ever be.

I think if your child is different and you put them in a large, American public high school you are asking for trouble. They are prison-like in their design and regimentation, they are obsessed with competitiveness in terms of sports and grade point average, which both affect your ability to attend and afford college so the stakes are pretty high. Young people with no responsibilities and probably very little interest in their school work are forced to spend their whole day with people within four years of their age. Such homogeneity forces them to focus on and exacerbate the most marginal differences.

I’m sure many young people would love to be an apprentice of some kind or investigate lines of work that they might actually be interested in. I took “challenging” and “advanced” classes and had hours of homework each night, but felt like I was in a holding cell.

I think we could be challenging young people much more than we are. I don’t mean harder subjects and activities to impress colleges, I mean some bigger picture about life and what they can contribute beyond their appearance, popularity level or future earnings ability. Some sign that the box they live in has a window. Maybe there would be less gender dysphoria, less suicides, and less school shootings.

#5 Comment By Mina On March 1, 2019 @ 8:47 pm

Rod, has it ever occurred to you that the parents are simply not accepting their child’s gender identity? That the parents are wrong? Parental attitudes tend to be lagging indicators. Family attitudes, too, including my own at one point. As an adult who has begun her hormonal transition, it took some caressing to get a few skeptics on board.

You’re getting caught up in the idea that this is some sort of panic. It’s really not. If you’re trans, it makes perfect sense.

You’re one of the few conservatives I read. Mostly due to how thoughtful you are. Please take a step back and consider all of the parties here.

#6 Comment By DEC01 On March 1, 2019 @ 10:44 pm

“This won’t end well. Social workers, doctors, and police attempting to take any of my children from my home to sterilize them would literally have to do it over my dead body. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels that way.”

Yes, flee if possible before, but these ghouls that desire to inject children with poison and cut off teen boys penises and girls breasts might think twice if they knew that it may cost them their lives.

Also, let’s not forget the parent who protects their child from this kind of violence by responding in kind may well get acquited by a jury of their peers. If fleeing is not an option, this may be the next best thing.

#7 Comment By Xenie On March 1, 2019 @ 10:48 pm

Mina says:

Rod, has it ever occurred to you that the parents are simply not accepting their child’s gender identity? That the parents are wrong? Parental attitudes tend to be lagging indicators. Family attitudes, too, including my own at one point. As an adult who has begun her hormonal transition, it took some caressing to get a few skeptics on board.

“Gender identity” is nothing more than a belief system. Since it’s a belief system that causes people to want to self-mutilate and lie, it’s an evil belief system. It is owed no such “acceptance” any more than any other delusion.

#8 Comment By Sisera On March 1, 2019 @ 11:26 pm

@Mrs.Cole
Interesting comment.
It always seemed to me that the one benefit socially inept girls had is that they were treated respectfully by 50% of people (males). There are exceptions but years of feminist indoctrination requires no ‘body shaming’ or mocking a woman as unattractive or else you’re a rapistincelmisogynistniceguyTM.
Socially inept males get treated horribly by both YasssKweenSlay types and regular males.
Generally speaking most FtM transgenders not only regret losing their junk but are appalled at how an unattractive autistic (or any) young male is treated

#9 Comment By Sisera On March 1, 2019 @ 11:28 pm

@Mrs.Cole
In some ways the hyper-polite society harms “aspies”. If you have trouble reading between the lines socially, it’s made that much worse by people being vague and p*ssy-footing around what they really mean.

#10 Comment By Xenie On March 1, 2019 @ 11:50 pm

Sisera says:

@Mrs.Cole
Interesting comment.
It always seemed to me that the one benefit socially inept girls had is that they were treated respectfully by 50% of people (males).

Yeah it seemed that way to you, but it is not actually that way. Not in the slightest. Also awkward and autistic girls are considered great targets for all kinds of malicious, often sexual, harassment, in the middle school years in particular.

#11 Comment By charles cosimano On March 2, 2019 @ 12:30 am

“Is that why you think people quote the scriptures? To impress folks?”

Yes. They do it for the same reason anyone quotes anything–to impress people. Only problem is that argument by authority only impresses those who accept the authority. So, for example, Rod can quote sociologists until the cows come home but for those to whom sociology is a fraud the words fall on deaf ears.

Quoting scripture, in this case Leviticus, works on those who are disinclined to fall over laughing at the thought of injunctions against eating shrimp. It is totally ineffective with anyone else. It is actually counterproductive in that it gives the opponents a good opportunity to banish with laughter and label the person as just another religious nutcase. Credibility dies quickly.

It would seem the most effective response is to use the elective process. State judges are rarely lifetime appointments. If a few family court judges are thrown off the bench for siding with the social workers, the rest will get the message. Of course the best solution is to simply forbid any discussion of transgenderism to minors by any recipient of federal funds. No counseling. No treatment. No recognition that they even exist. Just stop the money.

#12 Comment By Karl Cox On March 2, 2019 @ 12:30 am

After they legalize polygamy, pedophilia will be next. Mark my words.

If you think that an 8 year old can consent to remove their genitals and can consent willingly as a sexual actor, there will be no stopping adults who prey on children.
I imagine it will start with a sob story that pushes the limits of our disgust (it always does), maybe a 19 year old with his 14 year consort. They will tell us they are in love. Maybe the latter individual is an honors student who is “mature beyond their years,” and the liberals will use that to tug at our heart strings.
Love is love they’ll say. And how will these relativists who have given ground at every turn say no since they believe that adolescents can consent to these procedures and that the emotion they describe as “love,” is the determining factor as to whether something is right or wrong?

This culture is suicidal. But I’d rather die on the battlements in the best way I can find than to give an inch to this enemy. I imagine these people will serve a purpose in the Benedict Option by buying time for it to happen.

#13 Comment By Mike On March 2, 2019 @ 4:19 am

“And there are people who think Donald Trump is our real problem.”

Yep. This may be hubris, but I think I speak for a lot of people who believe that the United States has become the RMS Trumptanic. Articles like this fret over mental/moral wellbeing of 10ish% of the doomed passengers.

Yes, Trump is this country’s #1 problem.

#14 Comment By Sisera On March 2, 2019 @ 7:46 am

@Xenie
Again, boys are literally not allowed to ever criticize a girl as unattractive without being a rapistincel. Can you actually dispute this or are you just going to tell me I’m wrong?
Likewise, you a “socially inept woman”? I always found the solipsism of feminists to breathtaking. My experience is the ultimate reality yours are just lies.

I’m sure a lot of the MtF transsexuals were motivated by the fact that although young females are clearly doted on by 50%+ of society they’re still treated and perceived as having it worse.

#15 Comment By andre On March 2, 2019 @ 9:09 am

this may seem far fetched but this proliferation of alternative genders began with hanging chads. Remember how the election of Bush became so confusing as it was no longer question of yea and nay but maybe yes and maybe no. It got so bewildering as to where the votes fell the Supreme Court had to intervene.Cultural acceptance of transgenderism results in a proliferation of so many kinds of sexuality that one can no longer judge anyone.It Is bewildering.Is that the goal? Look at the chaos in women’s sports. And we have to accept the demolition of all that title 1X achieved. It sows so much confusion that the modicum of normalcy that is necessary for the society to function is lost. We are constantly forced to hesitate at every step we take.

#16 Comment By Jeremiah Keenan On March 2, 2019 @ 9:17 am

Maxine’s case was decided – the BC Supreme Court said that father and mother had no say in her treatment:

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#17 Comment By REM On March 2, 2019 @ 10:50 am

“As a conservative, I would add to the list of potential contributing factors: birth control, public schooling, anti-depressants and Ritalin, industrial grain and soy production, and so on. Can we at least start exploring some of these possibilities?”

Don’t forget electromagnetic radiation from cell phones and WiFi that we are constantly bombarded with 24/7 in radically ever increasing amounts, including probably everyone writing about their concerns over environmental pollution. I think it may be one of the worst offenders with the ability to interfere with our delicate internal electro-chemical processes that control just about everything metabolically (especially our nervous system) and including our DNA. Added to all the other crap it may just be a burden too far for our bodies to tolerate.

#18 Comment By Theresa On March 2, 2019 @ 11:58 am

When I was a kid, my best friend and I wanted to have our noses “fixed.” There was, of course, nothing wrong with our noses – we just hated them. I suspected, even then, that, at least in my case, I was fixating all my self-hatred (due to my belief that I had been sexually molested because I was “bad” – that it was all my fault), onto my nose. But it was much easier to squelch that suspicion, than to deal with it. This was, after all, the 1960’s.

I don’t know what my friend’s problems were. I just know she was unhappy – we both had a very poor self-image. And nose jobs were all the rage among our Hollywood starlet idols.

The point I’m making is that, at that time, there wasn’t a doctor worth his salt who would do a rhinoplasty on a child. I know this because my friend’s parents – indulgent as they were – agreed to pay for her to have the surgery when she turned 16. They searched and searched for a doctor who would perform the surgery – with no luck. My friend was very upset over this.

The reason these doctors refused to perform the surgery was precisely because of her young age. They said she needed to wait until she was fully mature – both physically and emotionally.

My, how times have changed! No one with an ounce of credibility would do a nose job on a 16 year old when I was a kid, but today, they’re willing not only to surgically mutilate the reproductive organs of a child, but also to give them synthetic hormones.

Those doctors who denied my friend a nose job at 16 were wise, I believe. I can’t say the same for doctors today who are willing to do far more to teens who are so certain that their unhappiness is all because they have the “wrong” nose – whoops! I mean, the “wrong” gender.

#19 Comment By Harve On March 2, 2019 @ 12:22 pm

Roy Fassel says:

“For goodness sake, it was discovered after many years that lead in gasoline and lead in paint caused serious brain dysfunctions.”

Not quite. Lead as toxic to living things was well established long before its use was regulated. If people who are inclined to follow science and regulate business aren’t elected then it will be profit uber alles. There is no option that will spare one or ones family from ubiquitous chemicals.

#20 Comment By Zuleika On March 2, 2019 @ 12:47 pm

Thank you, Mrs. Cole, from another Aspie lady.

#21 Comment By Annon On March 2, 2019 @ 1:06 pm

There seems to be three primary vectors for young girls to get triggered down this path:

1) awkwardness of entry to adolecense.

2) autism.

3) mental illness.

None of these are indicate a person is transgender as such. They indicate that it is a symptom of a deeper problem. One part of mental illness is fixation. The difficulty in dealing with the fixation is you simply cannot reason your way to a normal outcome.

For anyone dealing with even the signs of transgenderism, I strongly recommend learning about mental illness. While the health care providers have been weaponized against families, you can still find resources to help you understand the actual root conditions.

One excellent resource for helping to deal with families with mental health disorders and most importantly to learn how not to behave:

I Am Not Sick, I Don’t Need Help! How to Help Someone with Mental Illness Accept Treatment. 10th Anniversary Edition. [7]

#22 Comment By Cererean On March 2, 2019 @ 1:50 pm

It’s amazing how many people who *don’t* have gender dysphoria consider themselves to be authorities on why people transition.

It’s almost as if they assume people are just like them, and rack their brains trying to think of why *they* would transition.

Maybe the reason people transition is because they’re actually telling the truth when they claim to experience dysphoria? Maybe there *are* differences between men and women after all? Maybe sometimes things go awry during development? Is this so hard to believe?

#23 Comment By Lee On March 2, 2019 @ 3:11 pm

@ Cererean
“Maybe the reason people transition is because they’re actually telling the truth when they claim to experience dysphoria? Maybe there *are* differences between men and women after all? Maybe sometimes things go awry during development? Is this so hard to believe?”

I believe that *many* ARE telling the truth but it seems pretty clear that *some* are also under a form of social contagion, i.e. 5 girls who are friends in a small school all coming out as trans within a year. Or girls who were girlie from birth suddenly coming out at 12 or 13.

I also believe (and recent science says so) that we are all on a continuum with “extreme female” at one end and “extreme male” at the other. There are some effiminate men and some masculine women. At what point does it become Gender Dysphoria?

I was a pretty extreme tomboy as a child, very athletic, energetic, competitive, physically tough, uninterested in dolls but loving mechanical stuff, perferring outside and active to inside and inactive, preferring pants to skirts and comfortable clothes overall (no concern at all with how it *looked*) and the list goes on. I drove my poor mother nuts. I had sisters who were several years apart from me but my only brother was only 1 year apart. Did that cause it? I don’t think so but I do think it exacerbated it because he bullied me a lot and that “toughened me up”, bringing out more masculine behaviors.

STILL, what is it that defines “masculine” and “feminine” in this context? Whenever transgender people talk about it, they talk about clothing, appearance stuff like makeup for females, behaviors, etc that, to me, are *all* things where I was 100% “male” as a kid (and mostly still am). They say it is not who you are attracted to but who you are which knocks out that possible criteria. I will say this – when I was a young married person, we would get together with several other couples at someone’s house and the guys would go to the kitchen to drink beer and play cards while the women stayed in the living room and talked clothes, makeup and jewelry. Those were some of the longest nights of my life – excruciating! I longed to be in the kitchen playing cards every single minute.

I will say that I still, post 60, have a “male” brain in many ways – tell me your problem and I will respond with a fix, frugal to a fault and hate shopping, get along easier with men than women, love tools and diy kind of stuff, etc. My mothering was in between – protective like most mothers, but more demanding and able to inflict punishment when necessary (which wasn’t often – I preferred a “teaching” approach and it worked well with my relatively compliant kids).

All in all, I would say that my masculine traits and tendencies far outweigh my female ones and now that I am retired, I don’t wear makeup unless I have a wedding or funeral to attend, dress so male that I have been mistaken for a butch lesbian several times and live a stripped-down, minimalistic, non-consumerist life that is far more associated with men.

I’m sorry this is so long but my point is that I’ve tried and tried to understand how it feels to be a male in a female body and it seems to me that I SHOULD feel that way and yet I never have. I still believe that there are people born with gender dysphoria but all of my reading, thinking and discussing it for all these years and trying to understand has left just as clueless as when I first heard of transgenders.

#24 Comment By Xenie On March 2, 2019 @ 3:36 pm

Sisera says:

@Xenie
Again, boys are literally not allowed to ever criticize a girl as unattractive without being a rapistincel. Can you actually dispute this or are you just going to tell me I’m wrong?

I don’t doubt this is the case on WokeTwitter. But herds of tweens are not WokeTwitter, and never have been. Not even close. I have lived it and I have raised girls through that age. That’s at least as much “proof” as you have brought to this “dispute” so deal with it.

Likewise, you a “socially inept woman”? I always found the solipsism of feminists to breathtaking. My experience is the ultimate reality yours are just lies.

This comment is rich coming from a dude who decided a conservative mother of four is some kind of crazy feminist b*tch based on contradicting one statement of yours about what life is like for awkward and autistic girls.

Anyhow, I am far from the only woman to have either experienced or witnessed what girls go through in that age range if they are not adept at playing social games. There is a lot of information out there, from scholarly papers to personal reports, and I find it hard to believe that you have never encountered it.

#25 Comment By Fran Macadam On March 2, 2019 @ 3:55 pm

“You’re getting caught up in the idea that this is some sort of panic. It’s really not. If you’re trans, it makes perfect sense.”

The crazies are ascendant. And if as they are saying here, that Trump IS the central problem, that means they believe normal people are the problem: the voters who don’t buy into all this elite madness. You know, those deplorables that have to be gotten rid of – somehow.

Alas, Babylon.

#26 Comment By Cererean On March 2, 2019 @ 4:17 pm

Lee,

What is it like to be a bat? [8]

The problem with explaining gender dysphoria is that we’re trying to describe an internal experience or feeling. It’s akin to trying to describe a new colour to someone. If someone had never seen yellow, you could perhaps describe it as being like orange in some ways, or like green, but none of that would be able to get close to the effect of grabbing something yellow and shoving it in front of their eyes. As Morpheus said (in a movie by two transwomen…), “No-one can be told what the Matrix is…you have to see it for yourself.”

Consider, for example, what you consider to be beautiful. Can you interrogate yourself and find out *why* you feel something to be beautiful? Not *what* you find beautiful about it, but *why* those things elicit the feeling of beauty within you?

Or consider a longing for something that you have never experienced. There’s something there, you *know* something is wrong, but you can’t *explain* it until you *get* it. You have been raised, say, in a concrete box. Why should you dream of meadows full of flowers and streams?

The bit about surface aesthetics, I think, is an imperfect attempt at understanding. Perhaps it’s because our society has, let’s be honest, reduced gender differences down to surface aesthetics, as it reduces all other differences (which is I think a large part of why cultural appropriation is such a hot topic – the people who talk about it have been stripped of all else in their culture by the forces of globohomo). I think a great many transwomen would be willing to forgo makeup and dresses if only they could be female *and treated as such*. I know I would.

#27 Comment By Sisera On March 2, 2019 @ 5:31 pm

@Xenie
I never said girls that age don’t have social pressure. What I said was it is nearly exclusively from other girls.

The only danger from men is (aside from street crime not seen in suburbia) male feminist niceguys.

Some random dude is not going to shove her in a locker. Period.

I do not want see this turned into a ‘misogyny’ issue by closeted feminists like yourself while the facts seem to show otherwise:
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This would seem to illustrate about 65% of transgenders are MtF not FtM.

#28 Comment By Barry F Keane On March 2, 2019 @ 5:51 pm

Transgender revolutionaries exhibit bad faith. They make a claim they know to be false: that sex change therapy is legitimate. No intelligent adult (human or animal) can honestly deny the existence of genetic sex, the disaster of subjecting “deviants” (e.g. Alan Turing) to chemical castration, the utter barbarity of cutting out healthy organs via double mastectomies and hysterectomies. These advocates care no more about their victims than politicians care about illegal immigrants or the refugees from our endlessly disastrous wars. The victims are just pawns in the ruling class’s effort to automate all production and dispense with the middle class. The nightmare is that we’ll walk into the slaughterhouse without a fight.

#29 Comment By MrsCole On March 2, 2019 @ 8:07 pm

@ Marie:
Remember how big a deal anorexia was, back in the 80s-90s? And you hardly ever hear about it anymore? Did it go away or did we just stop talking about it? I’ve wondered if trans isn’t just the new anorexia for a lot of these kids: a form of OCD?

#30 Comment By Mina On March 2, 2019 @ 8:21 pm

“The crazies are ascendant. And if as they are saying here, that Trump IS the central problem, that means they believe normal people are the problem: the voters who don’t buy into all this elite madness. You know, those deplorables that have to be gotten rid of – somehow.

Alas, Babylon.”

If people refuse to “buy into” what’s real, that’s a them problem. I strongly and vehemently object to you, Trump, or anyone else, trying to make it my problem. It’s not my problem, and the Constitution is perfectly clear on this point.

#31 Comment By Mina On March 2, 2019 @ 8:25 pm

“ ‘Gender identity’ is nothing more than a belief system. Since it’s a belief system that causes people to want to self-mutilate and lie, it’s an evil belief system. It is owed no such “acceptance” any more than any other delusion.”

Are you an extraterrestrial? I’m going to assume not, if I may. Assuming I am correct, you have a gender identity. It’s a mandatory part of the human experience, even if you experience it as having no gender.

#32 Comment By Moone Boy On March 2, 2019 @ 10:45 pm

Cererean says:
March 2, 2019 at 1:50 pm
It’s amazing how many people who *don’t* have gender dysphoria consider themselves to be authorities on why people transition.

It’s almost as if they assume people are just like them, and rack their brains trying to think of why *they* would transition.

Maybe the reason people transition is because they’re actually telling the truth when they claim to experience dysphoria? Maybe there *are* differences between men and women after all? Maybe sometimes things go awry during development? Is this so hard to believe?

I can believe that’s possible.

The problem is being asked to accept, without actual hard science:

1) that the way to remedy that is through radically invasive surgery and extraordinary, artificial, lifelong chemical disruptions;

2) that the primary diagnostic can be the expression of a kid who could be suffering from multiple overlapping and reinforcing problems, that have little to do with the solutions being offered above;

Can you at least accept that as a possibility?

#33 Comment By Nachum On March 3, 2019 @ 3:22 am

“My once beautiful daughter is now nineteen years old, homeless, bearded, in extreme poverty, sterilized, not receiving mental health services, extremely mentally ill, and planning a radial forearm phalloplasty (a surgical procedure that removes part of her arm to construct a fake penis).”

Obvious question: Who pays for the drugs and surgery?

#34 Comment By Nachum On March 3, 2019 @ 3:32 am

Oh, my question about payment has been answered. Silly me: We’re all paying for it.

#35 Comment By Nick Stuart On March 3, 2019 @ 8:42 am

Way late to the comments, been traveling.

Seriously speculating here. I don’t see anywhere in the Bible that it indicates souls have a gender. We know that in heaven there is neither marriage nor giving in marriage.

That would explain a lot as genderless souls find themselves in gendered bodies, having to sort out what that means and unpacks.

I’m coming to the conclusion that folks who are transgendering are truly lost souls. Unable/unwilling to accept the gendered body they’ve been born into they begin to think that mutilating that body into a simulacrum of the opposite gendered body will somehow bring them peace. And it doesn’t.

[NFR: “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.” (Genesis 1:27) — RD]

#36 Comment By Nachum On March 3, 2019 @ 12:16 pm

Cererean: No, when it happens in such huge numbers so quickly, there’s no other way to explain it than a very dangerous form of the tulipomania.

We keep saying, “Oh, wait till these kids sue, the whole thing will collapse.” Maybe. But can’t the parents sue? Don’t they have a leg to stand on, a sympathetic jury to convince?

It’s about time we started calling these quacks what they are: Mengele, the last person to take kids from their parents for dangerous and unscientific “experiments.”

#37 Comment By Marie On March 3, 2019 @ 2:42 pm

@MrsCole:
That’s very interesting. We certainly hear about it less, so it would be interesting to know if there actually are less cases, or if it’s just not reported about as much. Today I imagine a lot of disordered eating and OCD tendencies are hidden by society’s fixation on wellness and “clean eating.” No one really notices if there might be a problem behind someone’s healthy eating habits because it seems positive and if the person is not underweight, there’s no immediate physical danger.

In some ways, GD does seem like the new ED, though I never felt like a boy. I thought they seemed easier to be around and I wanted boys to like me. I just didn’t feel like a normal girl. I think the idea of being “non-binary” would’ve been appealing to me, but thankfully it was nowhere on my radar at the time.

#38 Comment By A Russian On March 3, 2019 @ 4:05 pm

All this stuff is quite remote from me. Nevertheless, a few things I don’t think others have mentioned.

First, I think it’s worth remembering that while the medical interventions that made the modern transgender possible are historically new, the concept itself is not, when looked at the global history. The idea of third genders has existed in some Asian (i.e. Thai ladyboys) and most Polynesian cultures for as long as, if not longer, then Abrahamic religions, and have often merged with them. I am reminded of the-then Samoan Prime Minister and his declaration in 2011 that transsexuals were “glorious miracles of God”.

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I wonder if the colonial-age globalization that exposed the Western explorers to those beliefs for the first time is what eventually inspired the current medical treatments. Either way, blaming the emergence of the entire phenomenon on liberalism is historically short-sighted, though the jury is out on these child and teenage cases.

Here, I can sympathise with the sentiments written here and in the comments. Nevertheless, I notice that while numerous commenters put a lot of faith in the legal system down the line, there’s little interest in the science, even as many make passing reference that “hard science” will support them and Dreher’s side down the line. However, the latter is what will sway the former in all but the most unambiguous cases.

In my view, winning the argument at the very least requires the following:

1) Establishing that these interventions don’t help with the underlying issues, at least when it’s to do with the young people, through a set of cold, hard numbers, with the personal stories like above as supporting evidence.

2) Having research superior to one that supports your opponents’ claims and is able to either disprove it, or take it into account without altering the core argument. I mean opponents’ research like this: [11]

2) (The most crucial step) Looking globally at the other countries. If the pro-T hypothesis is that there’s always a set % “born this way” and they just quietly commit suicide, etc. in places and cultures where they can’t transition, then a youth suicide rate comparison could counter that. If it’s genuinely a pollution problem, then proving that places with fewer of these plastics (or food hormones, or whatever) present in the environment, food, etc. also have substantially lower rates of gender dysphoria kids will be a heavy point in your favour, and can even get the environmental groups on your side with the right manoeuvring.

Then, there needs to be exchange of experience with the psychologists, therapists, etc. from such countries (like mine), to study how their management of the teen mental health/dysphoria issue without transitioning fares in comparison. If their methods can be shown to work better in a genuine data-based comparison, then the parents in this post could start on lawsuits the day after, and the rest of you could start chipping to keep the momentum, since a court would be hard-pressed to argue otherwise.

In the modern world, you have all the tools necessary for doing this, if the hard science is truly on your side. Sympathetic politicians also shouldn’t be that hard to find: you are telling me that the modern Republican party that still hosts Steve King and has completely forgotten Gohmert lying about Soros selling Jews to death camps is too collectively afraid of being called “bigoted” to find someone study this? Really?

#39 Comment By PeterK On March 3, 2019 @ 4:23 pm

Mina wrote “has it ever occurred to you that the parents are simply not accepting their child’s gender identity? That the parents are wrong? Parental attitudes tend to be lagging indicators.”

i’m totally gobsmacked that you believe that the parents are in the wrong. have you not heard of Rapid Onset Transgenderism? please please please be a bit more skeptical

#40 Comment By yahtzee On March 4, 2019 @ 2:08 am

The problem with explaining gender dysphoria is that we’re trying to describe an internal experience or feeling. It’s akin to trying to describe a new colour to someone. If someone had never seen yellow, you could perhaps describe it as being like orange in some ways, or like green, but none of that would be able to get close to the effect of grabbing something yellow and shoving it in front of their eyes. As Morpheus said (in a movie by two transwomen…), “No-one can be told what the Matrix is…you have to see it for yourself.”

What a load of absolute crap. “We’re just trying to describe a color that you’ve never seen!” No, you’re describing a collective delusion, egged on by the people in your community who have an emotional investment in dragging you along for the ride. It’s familiar terrain to anyone who’s trucked in mental illness: mass hysteria, cutting, suicide epidemics, etc.

“Consider, for example, what you consider to be beautiful. Can you interrogate yourself and find out *why* you feel something to be beautiful? Not *what* you find beautiful about it, but *why* those things elicit the feeling of beauty within you?”

Yes, because things that are beautiful point to a transcendent truth that all humans ultimately recognize. That there’s an ordered nature to the universe and that things are beautiful to the extent that they adhere to that nature and ugly to the extent that they violate it. I’m sure you’ll dig up some grotesque counterexamples, but it’s only going to drive this point home for anyone who hasn’t been completely consumed with your particular form of ideological damage.

#41 Comment By Donxon On March 5, 2019 @ 12:26 pm

I have a transgender cousin who suffered severe early childhood sexual abuse then transitioned after getting married a d fathering two children. I think a lot of transgender people probably have similarly horrific stories.

Great them with patience and sympathy. The charlatans using them as props in their quest for power are counting on you putting on a display of how emotionally disequilibrating you find the topic to be.

#42 Comment By ROBERT HOLDEN On March 5, 2019 @ 9:57 pm

I am a male (no doubt). I accept that it’s hard for me to objectively consider gender dysphoria. I have no skin in the game (no pun intended). If I really thought I should have been female, I would tough it out as best I could. I would never let Doctors Frankenstein cut off my penis and submit myself to life-long hormone therapy. This is not a solution, it is an illusion, and it will not end well. Celibacy, whether voluntary or not, is not the end of the world. Tough it out. Be a girly-man or a manly-girl. My experience is that men will socially accept all women regardless of their feminine – masculine disposition. Teenage school years are among the weirdest social circumstances many of us will ever face. This is not the time to make subjective declarations of gender, and to embark on a path that is often not reversible. Where is the healthy skepticism of the Medical Establishment? They have been wrong before….

#43 Comment By Spurwing Plover On March 9, 2019 @ 10:20 am

Our Liberal NEA run schools have become Indocrination centers for Big Brother the Globalists and the New World Order do we need anymore reason to have Home Schooling