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She Carried A Garrotte!

I blogged [1]yesterday about a mob trying to shut down Jordan B. Peterson and others at Queens University in Kingston, Ontario, and wondered aloud, “Where are there police?!” Well, turns out one of the SJWs was arrested after breaking the glass (see above video): [2]

She’s charged with mischief, assaulting police, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose and for carrying a concealed weapon.

Local media reports say more than 150 people took part in the rally against University of Toronto psychology professor Jordan Peterson. He has come under fire for refusing to use gender-neutral pronouns and opposing Bill C-16, which extends legal protections to transgender people in Canada.

Police say the woman, who isn’t a student at Queen’s, stood on one of the building’s window ledges during the protest and started to bang on the window, causing it to break and cutting her hand.

They say she fled the scene but was stopped nearby by plain-clothes officers, who had to bring in extra officers when the woman became violent during her arrest.

Police add that the woman also tried to kick out the cruiser’s window while she was being transported to police headquarters.

Officials say officers searched her backpack and found a weapon — a metal wire with handles commonly known as a garrotte.”

She had a garrotte [3]! This is a crude weapon used to strangle a person. That is: to kill them by strangulation.

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The rage that these people are calling forth in reaction to their savagery is going to be something to behold.

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#1 Comment By JonF On March 9, 2018 @ 6:24 am

Re: If you are unable to figure out why a garrotte is more disturbing than a firearm

It’s more disturbing because it’s esoteric and unfamiliar, in much the same way we find poisonous snakes more frightening than we do dogs, although more people die from dog bites than from snake bites. But as others have pointed out it’s much,. much easier to kill someone with a gun.

#2 Comment By JonF On March 9, 2018 @ 6:32 am

Re: Why is it so hard for people like EngineerScotty and Hound of Ulster and JonF to just say “a liberal did something wrong”

Channeling my inner Uncle Chuckie I referred to this lady as a “barking loon”, said she had a few screws missing and was probably in the throes of some sort video game-inspired delusion. Short of using obscene language I’m not sure I could express my opinion of this woman any more precisely.

#3 Comment By muad’dib On March 9, 2018 @ 7:43 am

Private citizens who carry firearms legally are also statistically the most law-abiding citizens in the United States; they’re even more law-abiding than off-duty police officers. Go look it up if you doubt me.

Unless they lose their mind and go on a shooting rampage that kills 56 innocent people in a country music concert or 17 innocent students in a high school.

I’ll tolerate the odd B&E and petty theft just for the piece of mind that the knowledge that my children will not be shot like rabid animals in the middle of the street by one of you law abiding private citizens.

#4 Comment By muad’dib On March 9, 2018 @ 7:55 am

I know it’s hard for people who grew up around guns to imagine just how threatening guns appear to the rest of us. My state instituted open carry a few years ago. If I see a gun being carried by a civilian, I head the other way as fast as I reasonably can.

My father was an avid hunter, he had a couple of 30-6 and couple of shotguns, I went hunting with him a few times, did not particularly care for it (waiting & freezing for hours on end isn’t my idea of fun). I then spent four years of my life in the USMC, so I think I have a reasonable familiarity with guns. I find anyone carrying a gun in public to be scary, especially when I can’t figure out why that person is carrying a gun. If you’re not a cop or a security guard and you’re carrying a gun in public, there is something seriously wrong with your head (particularly if said gun is a semi-automatic rifle or a shotgun).

#5 Comment By Rob G On March 9, 2018 @ 8:15 am

“And ‘whataboutism!’ is the eternal cry of the hypocrite.”

“‘Whatabout!’ is the eternal cry of the hypocrite.”

There, fixed that for ya.

“Perhaps the least self-aware comment on this blog.”

Evidence please.

~~~And the idea that conservatism is “infinitely less of a lock-step ideology than progressivism” is almost as much of a joke as Limbaugh claiming his audience is so smart because they listen to him.~~~

You just proved my point. I’m willing to bet my 401K that the vast majority of conservatives who post here have absolutely no time for Limbaugh or any of his ilk.

On the other hand, as Viking LS says above, liberals seem inveterately incapable of any self-criticism unless it then proceeds ultimately to some (veiled or unveiled) criticism of the Right.

Liberalism never creates any problems, but when it does they can always be fixed by more liberalism!

#6 Comment By VikingLS On March 9, 2018 @ 8:27 am

@Progressives ONE Charlottesville (and no you don’t get to dig back decades) is not a blank check for DOZENS of attempts at intimidation and real violence by the left. (Never mind that the benefit of the doubt you all demand for yourselves in regards to these people as “just crazies”, seems to be something you don’t believe the right is entitled to.)

BTW do you all believe ANYBODY on the right thinks that this is anything other than who/whom for you? Do you honestly think if liberal speakers were regularly being greeted by armed mobs, and one of them had been found carrying a garrote we believe you’d be downplaying the incident?

Not likely.

@Robert Levine

“I know it’s hard for people who grew up around guns to imagine just how threatening guns appear to the rest of us.”

That’s because YOU don’t understand weapons (and not just guns) not because we don’t.

“I can’t be killed by a garrote except by someone who snuck up on me in a dark alley.”

This is a case in point. In an actual riot a person could easily use a garrote on another human being, which is probably the situation the woman imagined she might be in.

And BTW Antifa also carry guns and like to talk about shooting people, so no, “conservatives carry guns sometimes” is not a blank check either.

#7 Comment By Mike On March 9, 2018 @ 9:02 am

In context, it seems likely to me that what she had in mind was a lynching, not an assassination: A crowd grabs someone, and then he’s garroted while being held. That’s far more disturbing than open-carry activists, who are simply asserting a right of self-defense.

#8 Comment By Elijah On March 9, 2018 @ 9:53 am

“I can’t be killed by a garrote except by someone who snuck up on me in a dark alley.”

Or who crept up on you in a crowd/mob/protest/concert/etc. Or who hides in a parking garage, or in the back of your car. It is the tool of a murderer, plain and simple.

You may not feel personally threatened by a garrote, but I’d like to think an intelligent person can understand why others might be. Same as it is easy to understand your disdain of firearms being carried around.

“a metal wire with handles commonly known as a garrotte” – from the news report. If you have actual sources suggesting it was really a cheese slicer, please post the links. In my experience, however, women who become violent upon arrest and attempt to kick out the windows of a police car are not the fastidious types who require proper equipment to slice their Prima Donna for lunch.

“but a garrotte is way less dangerous than a handgun or even a throwing knife”. I know lots of people who own guns who aren’t particularly good shots. I think it is safe to assume that anyone who owns throwing knives or a garrotte is pretty well expert in how to use it to deadly advantage.

#9 Comment By James Nicola On March 9, 2018 @ 11:24 am

One of the more comforting things about living in a semi-civilised country like the UK is that both garotte and gun carriers will be punished.

In this instance, if this came up in court, I’d expect the garotte to be judged as a highly dangerous weapon, and given that it was being carried somewhere where there was a risk of serious disorder, that would mean the offence was judged at the highest levels of harm and culpability, which under Sentencing Council Guidelines, would mean a jail sentence of 18 months.

Of course, if someone came to a similar event carrying a gun, that would be taken even more seriously, and under the Firearms Act 1968, that would mean a minimum jail sentence of 5 years (assuming they were over 18).

Neatly getting rid of both the left wing lunatics and the – objectively more common – conservative crazies – and yeah, from the perspective of pretty much anyone else in the world who lives somewhere with a reasonable claim to being civilised, anyone who carries an offensive weapon around, garotte or gun, belongs in jail.

#10 Comment By grumpy realist On March 9, 2018 @ 5:18 pm

I wonder whether she just had a wire or an actual garrote (with handles).

In either case, the woman sounds quite a few forks short of a picnic basket, as the saying goes. Maybe she thought she was a ninja.

I’ll put her alongside the birther who a) named himself a “Padwan” and b) insisted that a female judge didn’t have authority over him because the Constitution only mentions “men” and no women should have any judicial authority. (You can imagine how well that went over in court.)

Lunatics are lunatics, whether on the left or the right.

#11 Comment By Jrm On March 10, 2018 @ 1:44 am

Lockstep progressive on the Jordan Peterson speech:

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#12 Comment By JonF On March 10, 2018 @ 9:27 am

Re: I think it is safe to assume that anyone who owns throwing knives or a garrotte is pretty well expert in how to use it to deadly advantage.

I don’t think that assumption holds. I own a sword. It hangs on my bedroom wall gathering dust. I have no friggin’ idea how to use it. Oh, and I’ve occasionally worn it to Halloween parties dressed as a knight or Roman legionnaire– that’s the only use I’ve ever had for it.

#13 Comment By MH – Secular Misanthropist On March 10, 2018 @ 11:25 am

Egypt Steve asked: “Are we totally sure she didn’t have a cheese wire?”

I doubt it, cheese isn’t vegan, and we’re talking about the far left.

#14 Comment By VikingLS On March 10, 2018 @ 8:12 pm

“nneling my inner Uncle Chuckie I referred to this lady as a “barking loon”, said she had a few screws missing and was probably in the throes of some sort video game-inspired delusion. Short of using obscene language I’m not sure I could express my opinion of this woman any more precisely.”

Yes JonF, you informed us through that that she wasn’t a liberal.

So again, why is it so hard for you to say a liberal did something bad?

#15 Comment By VikingLS On March 10, 2018 @ 8:16 pm

JonF

If you HADN’T said she was crazy, then you’d have a point. You did not. You NEVER do. You have three responses you seem to alternate between

a) the person wasn’t REALLY a liberal!

b) what they did wasn’t all that bad!

c) hey, pay attention to something bad about the right instead! THAT’s what really matters!

You do not criticize liberals or liberalism and you do not feel Christian compassion to their victims. You have made that overwhelming clear.

#16 Comment By VikingLS On March 10, 2018 @ 8:31 pm

If BTW you or anybody is thinking of throwing a tu quo at me and challenging me to criticize the right, oh please don’t you throw me into that brier patch!

#17 Comment By Jrm On March 11, 2018 @ 2:23 pm

I see the comments police have arrived. Run for your lives!

#18 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On March 11, 2018 @ 2:23 pm

VikingLS, why is it so hard for you to accept that crazy people will say anything that fuels their psychosis?

You know I have nothing good to say about liberals, but there is something peculiar about your fixation with JonF’s remarks.

Of course you have both told each other and me at various times to stop responding to your respective posts, and I have the same answer to anyone who says it. Post on a public blog, and your comments are fair game to anyone who cares to respond — not for the salvation of your soul, but for the edification of anyone else who may be reading. Rod did mention that millions read this stuff who never comment at all.

#19 Comment By sjay On March 11, 2018 @ 4:56 pm

Well, a person who carries a garrotte to a protest at which they behave violently isn’t a liberal. They may share with liberals certain common policy views though that is no certainty. They might be an anarchist or some sort of radical leftist, but they’re not a liberal. (and that’s not a No True Scotsman defense — acting out violently and illegally just takes you out of liberal by definition).

#20 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On March 11, 2018 @ 8:35 pm

acting out violently and illegally just takes you out of liberal by definition

While I would generally agree that taking a garrotte to a protest puts one outside the definition of liberal, its not historically true that acting violently and illegally is inconsistent with liberalism. The luddites were hung by the near unanimous consent of liberals (the Tories being mostly committed to landed property and the Corn Laws). The survivors of the Paris Commune were sent to firing squads by a liberal regime. The Irish were betrayed, sometimes bloodily, by British Liberals — although with the smug connivance of conservatives.

#21 Comment By Robert Levine On March 12, 2018 @ 12:43 am

VikingLS:


Not likely.

@Robert Levine

“I know it’s hard for people who grew up around guns to imagine just how threatening guns appear to the rest of us.”

That’s because YOU don’t understand weapons (and not just guns) not because we don’t.

I understand that guns are weapons, and uniquely effective and practical weapons if one’s goal is to kill one or more people at a distance. That’s why they make me very uneasy in the hands of strangers in public who aren’t wearing badges.

I wouldn’t be thrilled to know someone I passed on the street was packing a garrote either. But it’s not very likely I’ll be the victim of a mass garrotting or a stray garrote.

#22 Comment By VikingLS On March 12, 2018 @ 1:26 am

@Siarlys,

We all have besetting sins. I have a temper which I struggle with. I think you have noticed.

You and JonF are both fairly intelligent men, but who are terribly proud of your intellect and often unwilling to admit error even when it is carefully spelled out for you. Sorry, but you know that’s true of you. That’s why I got so frustrated with you.

My problem with JonF is twofold. Personally he has distorted things I said about my own experience, and then accused me of lying. THere’s a difference between saying “I don’t believe you believe that”, something CMPT just did to me without making me particularly upset, and saying “what you said happened, didn’t happen”. JonF has done the latter to me, more than once, and even when I attempted to explain I hadn’t said what he was claiming I said, refused to apologize. That’s probably pride, I don’t know.

I also have a problem with people who carry water for bad actors on their own side simply because they are on their side, or failing that, insist that there isn’t anything wrong on their side. JonF does this consistently. He is smart enough to know better than to do this, but he does it anyway.

I am VERY worried about what’s going on right now with progressives, and have seen it with my own eyes. Rod is not just making this all up. I am really getting tired of people who keep telling us to believe their theories and not our lying eyes.

#23 Comment By JonF On March 12, 2018 @ 6:31 am

Re: So again, why is it so hard for you to say a liberal did something bad?

There is not enough information here to classify her as a “liberal”. The word is not a synonym for “any one left of center”. Vladimir Lenin for example was very much left of center but calling him a “liberal” would be an abuse of language. (Siarlys or Hector can expand on that) Likewise I do not call everyone right of center “conservative”. There are a number of such public figures about whom I have said “They are anything but conservatives”.

Re: you do not feel Christian compassion to their victims

Unless you are gifted with a phenomenal telepathy approaching godlike power you have no basis for that statement. And where are the “victims” here? In Rod’s post about the horrendous Hungarian prison there were clearly victims of that place; a slug would feel compassion at such horrors. But there are no horrors here, just human foolishness. It’s a classic instance of “the dogs bark but the caravan passes”.

#24 Comment By VikingLS On March 13, 2018 @ 9:34 am

[NFR: Viking, JonF said he doesn’t want to dialogue with you. Please don’t address him again. This is not a comment from me on whether or not your arguments are sound, but rather me playing host and asking you to stand down from arguing with him. — RD]

#25 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On March 13, 2018 @ 12:17 pm

We all have besetting sins. I have a temper which I struggle with. I think you have noticed.

I have… and that includes, I have noticed that you struggle with it. I admire that you make the effort. For obvious reasons, I will see no more than that at this time.