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The Pornification of Everything

Pornography has become a problem. Or, to put it more accurately, pornography is finally being considered as problematic by leftist media outlets more comfortable advancing the cause of sexual and gender plasticity than decrying the real harm of perversion. Back in February, the New York Times Magazine published an article [1] called “What Teenagers are Learning from Online Porn,” describing in heartbreaking detail how a generation of easy access to free online pornography is changing “how teenagers talk and think about sex and, by extension, their ideas about masculinity, femininity, intimacy and power.”

Kudos to the Times‘ Maggie Jones for highlighting the issue, but if this were a math assignment she would only get partial credit. She’s guessed the correct answer without quite understanding what makes it so. The Times piece seems to imply that pornography is hurting our children by showing them the wrong kind of sex—male dominated, aggressive, overwhelmingly straight, and featuring bodies that conform to outmoded beauty standards (which is to say, beauty standards). The unarticulated subtext is that if only children were watching some “woke” version of pornography, the issue wouldn’t be so alarming. It’s a response almost as crass as the subject it explores, an anemic reaction to an issue that’s more than an isolated contemporary technological predicament: it’s emblematic of the deeper operating logic of contemporary society as a whole. Simply put, it was a pornographic response to pornography. The Korean-born German philosopher Byung-Chul Han might argue that both the pornographic video clips and mainstream critique of them were born of the same pornographic culture. Both use the same “bare life” logic, one completely absent any recognition of moral goods and human flourishing

Byung-Chul Han is a rare breed of public intellectual. He’s a theologically trained continental philosopher who neither leans heavily on his own biography (in fact he’s considered something of a recluse) nor retreats into the hazy jargon of professional over-specialization. Unlike Slavoj Zizek, Han doesn’t play to the crowd. And unlike his continental forebears, he avoids mystification. The left would love to claim Han as one of their own, but his critiques of the contemporary world rely too much on a fixed notion of human nature for folks in the line of Foucault to have anything but an ambivalent relationship with him. What makes him so unique as a European-trained philosopher who writes for an educated public is his unified vision of human life. In a recent interview [2] with El País, Jürgen Habermas lamented the “trend of increasing specialization” in philosophy, rather than trying “to explain the whole, to contribute to the rational explanation of our way of understanding ourselves and the world.” He must not be familiar with Han.

Han, ever a phenomenologist, begins with the experience of being human. If he’s occasionally difficult to understand, it isn’t because his thought is abstract or difficult, but because it’s profoundly simple. His arguments aren’t discreet, but meander among novels and the ideas of other thinkers, always returning to the bedrock experience of being human in the modern world. And most importantly, all of his ideas are connected. So, for instance, when he writes in The Scent of Time that “The decay of time goes hand in hand with the rise of mass society and increasing uniformity,” he’s not arguing that things are speeding up or accelerating in the modern world, but that time itself—a medium in which to pause, tarry, contemplate, and differentiate one thing from another—is being exchanged for instantaneousness. Time is essential for the revelation of truth. “Truth itself,” Han writes, “is a temporal phenomenon. It is a reflection of the lasting, eternal present. The tearing away of time, the shrinking and fleeting present, makes it void.” Time is a human medium, or, rather, a medium for the living. Instantaneousness is for computers and commodities. Knowledge “emptied of time” becomes information, which “can be stored and arbitrarily retrieved.” The destruction of time, the pressure to frantically match the pace of the digital world in our own everyday lives, is a kind of pornographication of the human experience.

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Han also connects the loss of time with the rise of “the transparency society,” by which he doesn’t mean sunshine laws or FOIA requests, but the loss of buffers between one thing and another, and especially between one person and another. Thanks to a digital world in which we are tracked, recorded, and even the most intimate details of our daily lives are willingly shared, we live in a “tyranny of intimacy.” Han writes in The Transparency Society that “The tyranny of intimacy psychologizes and personalizes everything.” He goes on to say that “…[a]s a society of revealing and denuding, the society of transparency works against all forms of the mask [the original and literal translation of persona], against symbolic appearance…. The mounting deritualization and denarrativization of society also strip it of form of symbolic appearance and render it naked.” Narrative, how humans are meant to experience the world, takes time to develop. Identity requires privacy. Both of these things are diminished in the transparency society, a “society of confession, laying-bare, and the pornographic lack of distance.”

The existential mediums required for human flourishing, things that separate one from another such as time and privacy, remind me a bit of Burke’s “little platoons.” Without these mediums, there’s no buffer between an individual and the prevailing powers controlling society. It bends the mind to think of “time” and “privacy” and, as Han argues in The Agony of Eros, the “erotic” as categorically similar to community organizations and organized religion, but in Han’s articulation they do seem to echo each other. In this rendering, pornography is simply another method of “profantion of the world.” It is the degradation of things vital to human flourishing into what Han calls a “bare” existence, which sounds like an utterly inhuman existence. In this process of the world becoming “more naked and more obscene,” things degenerate into a shadow of themselves. Thought is reduced to calculation. Knowledge is denuded until it becomes mere data. Contemplation, bereft of time, collapses into consumption. Love is reduced to sex.

This holistic view of society bending towards pornography in every aspect of itself is what is missing from the Times newfound concern of online sex videos. Whether you agree with Han or think “against” him, as McKenzie Wark blurbs on the back of Topology of Violence, he at least presents a full anthropology of man. Without a clear sense of how humans should live, and which values in fact contribute to our very humanity, both problems and solutions become atomized and granular—products of mere calculation. Or, in other words, pornographic.

Scott Beauchamp’s work has appeared in the Paris ReviewBookforum, and Public Discourse, among other places. His book Did You Kill Anyone? is forthcoming from Zero Books. He lives in Maine.

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36 Comments To "The Pornification of Everything"

#1 Comment By Jesse On June 6, 2018 @ 11:14 pm

Teen pregnancy? Down.

Abortion? Down.

Rape? Down.

Age of first sexual activity? Holding steady or going slightly up.

Number of sexual partners? Again, holding steady or going slightly up.

What conservatives are actually unhappy about is that us evil liberals are accomplishing conservative goals while having a liberal world.

Girls are getting IUDs because they’re watching 16 and Pregnant and seeing how hard being a teen mother is, not because they think Jesus will be mad at them.

#2 Comment By PSH On June 7, 2018 @ 3:57 am

The modern progressive mindset endorses hedonism, dispenses with the concept of obscenity and denounces the norms of modesty and innocence. It denies that sex is a moral issue to begin with, except where it is an instrument of oppression of gays and women. Even the fiery denunciation of pedophilia seems in part cynical, a means of assaulting the church.
The pornographic aspect of showing extreme violence is also treated as a non-issue. The only restriction is that any reprehensible violence be the doing of Republicans, Russians, or Christians.
So much for modernity. From a traditional viewpoint, most of what comes out of Hollywood is pornography, and more harmful than any x-rated material on the internet. This is because Hollywood shows and movies portray Hollywood’s view of what is normal and ethical behavior. If Hollywood shows people behaving like sluts, and depicts slut-shamers as evil oppressors, kids will conclude that being a slut is the new norm and moral ideal. By contrast, no one would take the situations or behavior of characters in porn films and videos as representative of how future leaders or respectable average folks behave or are expected to behave.
Google the Hays Code and look it over to see how much our expectations of Hollywood have changed with regard to obscenity and violence.

#3 Comment By connecticut farmer On June 7, 2018 @ 9:15 am

Very good article and food for thought. The chief objection to porn as I see it is that it is ultimately degrading and dehumanizing to both women and to the men who view it as well men as well, turning both into what amounts to a commodity to be purchased and sold. Frankly I would be just as happy if porn were banned from the internet altogether, particularly because at present, much of it is free and–of greater concern–accessible to young children. An outright ban may be too much to expect and would probably be as successful in eradicating porn as Prohibition was in eradicating alcohol consumption. If you advocate banning it from the Internet, you are inevitably going to run into the question of “what is porn” blah, blah, etc. etc (I rather liked Potter Stewart’s definition: “I know it when I see it”). Alas, humanity is flawed and we’re all sinners.

So…what to do? Perhaps pornography on-line should be treated like prostitution: You want it? Then pay for it.

#4 Comment By Professor Nerd On June 7, 2018 @ 10:00 am

All the advertisements after this article are close to porn

#5 Comment By ludo On June 7, 2018 @ 10:02 am

Porn teaches you to see human beings with a deconstructive gaze: the whole person, animated by the intangibility of their minds and personalities, which may outshine even the homeliest of faces and physiques, is transformed and replaced by a larcenous gaze, whose subconscious object is the theft of the humanizing principle contained within the exposed objectified body so as to make of it little more than a visual opioid catalyst, by which is fed an acute desocialized state wherein what was once a human female or male is instantly rendered into fetishized living flesh, to be visually invaded, dismembered, destroyed, desecrated, even virtually murdered, at the whim of a thought, and by an irresistible (though initially learned) impulse. Peter Madsen made finally actionable his previous ritualized forays into the bacchanalic distemper precipitated by his chronic consumption of pornographic sadism., which had become the ceaseless and irresistible subterranean desire of all his waking days.

#6 Comment By Youknowho On June 7, 2018 @ 10:28 am

You are conflating the effects of porn by itself, and the effects of porn on children.

Yet, many things that children should not get hold of are good. Case in point: matches. No one denies that matches are a good thing. And no one wants a kid to get hold of them.

So it might be with porn. There is an argument to be made to restrict children’s access to it – saying that you need to learn a lot more before you get to watch it. Same as you cannot take calculus before algebra, and no algebra before arithmentics.

Then we have to move the discussion as to the effects of porn in adults and the wisest course to follow there.

#7 Comment By Ben H On June 7, 2018 @ 10:44 am

Well no, the content of the porn is the problem and there is no way to make it better. It’s a deliberate mechanism used to make sure everyone is alone, miserable and weak.

#8 Comment By Will Harrington On June 7, 2018 @ 11:19 am

Jesse

Mass school shootings, up
Addiction to electronics up
Deaths from opioids up
addiction to pornography up (which may actually have something to do with some of the stats you recite)
oh, crime is down too, because incarceration rates in the US are the highest in the world.

Just some alternative facts about yout “liberal” world. But what I would really like to point out is how far above your head the philosophy seems to have gone. You take denuded statistics to try to attack an article whose whole point is that we aren’t even asking the questions philosophy is for, such as what does it mean to be human and what is good. Nope, we just reduce everything to its most easily measured component (your statistics) and think that mere data is enough to achieve understanding or meaning. You have proved this point with your answer which epitomizes what the author criticizes. But, you know, you got your sound bite so who needs actual understanding?

#9 Comment By March Hare On June 7, 2018 @ 11:19 am

Every visual communication technology that humans have ever invented, from charcoal and ochre on cave walls to fired clay figurines, to photography and video, has been used almost immediately for creation of sexually charged images. Porn, or its ancient equivalents, is older that writing, and apparently older than settled civilization itself.

Get over it. Porn is old news. Scandalizing porn is a relatively new invention of the past few hundred years.

The only thing that’s different this time is the scale of distribution. And as usual, conservatives are in a tizzy when things that had been available only for money (and thus kept away from the poor unwashed masses) are available to everyone.

“Privilege” is a horribly overused word on the American left, but it applies here.

#10 Comment By mrscracker On June 7, 2018 @ 11:31 am

Jesse ,
Some of what you share is due to the increased use of long term contraception for young girls.

Some statistics also reflect a decrease of face to face relationships between young people in general.

Fewer out of wedlock pregnancies are certainly a positive thing but how we achieved that might not be.

There’s an interesting article online re. long term contraception & it points out that while teen pregnancy rates are down, STD’s aren’t-partly due to use of LARC’s which offer no protection:

“Long-Acting Contraception Makes Teen Pregnancy Rates Plummet. So Why Are Some Women Still Skeptical?

The history of birth control in America is littered with instances of coercion. Reproductive-justice advocates don’t want to see that happen again.”

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#11 Comment By Tono Bungay On June 7, 2018 @ 11:48 am

I gave Byung-Chul Han a shot on YouTube after reading the article above. Like most philosophers, he had lost me within two minutes. The only people less understandable in this world are sociologists.

#12 Comment By dL On June 7, 2018 @ 12:34 pm

Matthew 7:3-5

You conservative christians have a “plank problem” with your own culture, one rife with ethno white nationalism, dear leader idol worship and exaltation of militarism/violent authority. Ya’ll even go around patting yourselves on your own backs about making the “ultimate sacrifice” and demand others bow to recognizing it under threat of violent repercussions by the state. lol

If there is a hell, I will see you there….

#13 Comment By Elena vasquez On June 7, 2018 @ 1:37 pm

Jesse;

Teen pregnancy is certainly declining but illegitimacy rates are at the highest they’ve ever been (along with the attendant social problems). STDs are also soaring.

Those 16 year old girls still think it’s fine to have a kids out of wedlock, just not at 16.

You liberals still have more work to do.

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#14 Comment By LouisM On June 7, 2018 @ 2:08 pm

In the 1920s and earlier there was a strong puritanism that taught sex was bad.

In the 1950s with the return of the GIs from WWII it was common belief that sex was good.

Whether sex was good or bad, it was a private matter and it was not discussed even though there were strong social networks. It didn’t matter whether one lived in a small town or a big city apartment building, people knew a lot about your public and private life.

There is evidence with the public acceptance of pornography people have sought out pornography rather than have sex. Its easier and more expedient. Thus reduced birthrates.

However, we can see a compounding effecting between the internet and pornography and feminism. People just don’t have the personal and social skills for interaction and even when people to meet and find commonality the ideology of women good and victims while men bad and aggressors is a constant fog distorting their relationship.

As Jordon Peterson would say, the problems with low birthrate and low relationship formation has multiple variables and cant be assigned to just pornography.

#15 Comment By Joan from Michigan On June 7, 2018 @ 3:07 pm

Inherent in the definition of pornography is the intent to arouse. When we use the term metaphorically, as in “food porn” or “disaster porn”, we are generally describing photos and text that are intended to produce some particular emotion or thrill in the observer. Therefore, when I clicked on this headline, I was expecting an essay about the effects of living in an environment of runaway hypercapitalism in which we are constantly surrounded by ads and appeals of various kinds and are encouraged to make of our own lives a series of ads and appeals designed to manipulate others into helping us move toward whatever materialistic life goals other people’s ads and appeals have convinced us to yearn for.

So I’m a bit disappointed to find that Mr. Beauchamp has written something else entirely, something that starts with redefining pornography as sexual explicitness of any sort, no matter its intent, and then ties that in with TMI culture, with the collecting and selling of our web-browsing habits and the broadcasting of the minutia of our daily lives on social media and, somehow, with time famine. Instead of focusing on the increasing manipulativeness of our culture, he laments what he sees as its growing informativeness (though of course he doesn’t call it that), mourning the loss of  “the mask” and “the form of symbolic appearance”. He seems to want us to relate to each other as archetypes and stereotypes rather than as whole, flawed human beings, and to believe that this masked and symbolic way of life is the way humans are meant to live. I’m surprised that he didn’t quote from T. S. Elliot’s “Four Quartets”, maybe the famous “Humankind cannot bear very much reality.”

He also seems completely unaware of the extent to which his “things vital to human flourishing” are in fact privileges that the great mass of humanity has only enjoyed intermittently and perhaps not seen as needs at all. My grandfather grew up in a small rural town. In his old age he liked to shock the younger generations with statements like, “They used to print in the newspaper how much you owed on your mortgage and whether you were behind on the payments.” My mother and her four sisters shared one bedroom. Was their very traditional upbringing somehow less than human because it did not include forms of privacy that we take for granted? 

#16 Comment By Phillip On June 7, 2018 @ 3:55 pm

Our memories and education seem to fail us here with regards to what constitutes “pornography.” Our concept of porn has only changed over the past 70 years with the invention of television and videotape to record moving images on. Before that we had still photos to view as our porn. Think deeper in history my friends. Take a trip to Greece or Rome, and how many naked statues will you encounter on your journey, that are now considered “art”? Dig deeper and visit any art gallery and how many nudes will you see displayed for all ages to see? But yet, we call it “art” and in some instances, “masterpieces.”

For as long as man has lived, so has porn existed. It’s just way too easy and free now for most prudish hypocrites to stomach.

#17 Comment By Peter K On June 7, 2018 @ 4:20 pm

Yes porn is dehumanizing and degrading but why? Most people wouldn’t say sex itself is degrading and dehumanizing so why is a recording or picture of it considered so?

I think the point Han is trying to make is that pornography takes what is private and intimate and makes it public. It also makes it commercial and one of the most intimate human acts becomes a form of entertainment.

#18 Comment By KD On June 7, 2018 @ 4:27 pm

The paradox of liberalism is expressed in its sexual permissiveness combined with its revulsion in the face of true human desire unmoored from any sense of family life, community and commitment.

What could be more inegalitarian, not to say downright reactionary, than the average person’s sexual fantasies?

What could be more unfair than desire? That some girls are born pretty and attractive, to be sought by men, and others to be ignored, or begrudgingly used a a mere life boat to posterity?

Porn itself is born from the fact of male inequality, that a few men get to compete for the attention of the many females, while the many men are consigned to involuntary celibacy, or begrudgingly used as a meal ticket?

What could be more revolting and exposing about the egalitarian lies of our “sexual utopia” than the prevalence of pornography (and novels like 50 Shades of Gray) or the insipidness of electronic dating?

Sexual freedom is another word for loneliness, atomization, and empty despair–not to mention the millions of disposable fetuses offered up to Moloch each year.

#19 Comment By Youknowho On June 7, 2018 @ 4:40 pm

@mrscracker

You do not like the way pregnancies out of wedlock are down?

You prefer the old fashioned method of punishing the women?

Bring back the Magdalene laundries?

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When the Church acknowledges its crimes, and seeks to make amends, I will listen to what She has to say about sexuality.

#20 Comment By RATMDC On June 8, 2018 @ 2:10 am

For the author: The New York Times is very far from Leftist! I see this sort of thing all the time, and it’s bewildering. A corporate-owned publication filled with capitalist advertising is not akin to itsgoingdown.org.

For Will Harrington: The Great Crime Decline has also occurred in countries whose incarceration rates remain low, and never ballooned to American proportions.

#21 Comment By Timothy On June 8, 2018 @ 2:54 am

Amazing article. Thank you!

#22 Comment By Tom On June 8, 2018 @ 3:06 am

The easy accessibility of porn may be what ultimately kills it. Fewer and fewer people are actually buying pornographic material; instead, they are satisfying their desires through free tube sites. That means less and less revenue for the studios, which if the trend continues could wipe them out. So there is hope.

#23 Comment By Jonathan Allen On June 8, 2018 @ 10:31 am

It’s weird and sort of wonderful- in a sad and strange and striking way- to read an article, then go to the comments and see the article’s argument verified by the reactions of the commentators (and note that I did not say readers). Outrage (and counter-outrage) is triggered by the title of the text, the content skimmed or skipped over, because the time and energy required for engagement has been evaporated by our dependence on instantaneous technologies of communication, of politics, of self. The time between encounter and culmination- orgasm, outrage, comment, purchase- is reduced further and further, and with that reduction, our own selves are reduced and reduced further and further down.

#24 Comment By Hunter C On June 8, 2018 @ 10:39 am

Will Harrington

First of all, “technology addiction” is a pseudo-scientific meme that has spread through cultural and political commentators. The American Psychological Association has, so far, decided against including it in the DSM5 (and not out of a lack of awareness or discussion) because of a lack of evidence that technology use habits constitute an addiction. “Addiction” isn’t just a word you can slap on any habitual behavior. When you do, it has terrible consequences. This meme of “technology addiction” has led to the medicalized torture of children in China with the kinds of methods that would be considered war crimes if they were done to soldiers. But – because the torturers perform their grisly work at the behest of parents who are furious about their children not being as hellbent on getting ahead in the rat race as mommy and daddy would like – these sociopathic quacks locking children in sensory deprivation chambers, beating them black and blue, and attaching electrodes to their bodies is actually held up as a positive example of a government tackling a serious problem.

Shame on anyone who pastes the serious medical terminology of addiction on anybody who uses technological devices for longer per day than you, personally, approve of. Shame on anyone who says that teen pregnancy rates and underaged sex weren’t so bad 20 years ago, because at least the kids weren’t looking at “screens” all the time.

P.S. schools are statistically safer than they have been in past decades. But as you explain, statistics have to give way before the grand narrative of morality… which allows you to dictate to other people what they’re allowed to enjoy and desire and what they aren’t (your own, painfully bourgeois pleasures are, of course, sacrosanct and serve as the indispensable glue that holds “society” together).

#25 Comment By Allen On June 8, 2018 @ 11:45 am

dL: There is a hell, but you won’t see me there. And everything you cite could, with a few small word changes, apply to “you liberal atheists”; ethno black nationalism, dear leader idol worship (identical), exaltation of antifa/violent mobs.

People are people, dude. Liberals, conservatives, Christians and atheists all have some awful people. Harvey Weinstein is a Democrat, remember? No one has a lock on bad behavior and your friends ain’t no better than mine.

#26 Comment By mrscracker On June 8, 2018 @ 11:57 am

Youknowho,
The Irish govt. sponsored McAleese report covered that issue in a balanced way I think.

Did you read the article in the link I provided? It’s not against contraception but questions how long term contraception can be coercive & target minorities. It’s really not a conservative-minded article but I thought it was still worthwhile.

#27 Comment By KD On June 8, 2018 @ 1:03 pm

I think it says something when a society decides to replace a sense of the religious or sacred with sexuality–what would you say if a society decided to replace religion with food, but the overwhelming consumption was not of food, but of images of food, or the consumption of synthetic food, which provided no nutrition or sustenance?

Or putting it backwards, a society where the highest good was the consumption of food, but 90% of the masses were either starving to death or in caloric deficits eating gruel? Imagine the society trying to sell its social structure as “food liberation” and something worthy of celebration?

It is pretty clear that given people are burning with a thirst that is never satisfied or even capable of satisfaction, that both our contemporary priorities not to mention the distribution system are grossly unjust.

#28 Comment By Jeeves On June 8, 2018 @ 1:45 pm

It bends the mind to think of “time” and “privacy” and, as Han argues in The Agony of Eros, the “erotic” as categorically similar to community organizations and organized religion, but in Han’s articulation they do seem to echo each other.

“Bend the mind”? I should say so! “Erotic” is not the echo of time and privacy I got from our most famous community organizer and the Reverend Wright. In my articulation, those two are categorically similar to pornography.

#29 Comment By sglover On June 8, 2018 @ 3:59 pm

@ Joan from Michigan:

Therefore, when I clicked on this headline, I was expecting an essay about the effects of living in an environment of runaway hypercapitalism in which we are constantly surrounded by ads and appeals of various kinds and are encouraged to make of our own lives a series of ads and appeals designed to manipulate others into helping us move toward whatever materialistic life goals other people’s ads and appeals have convinced us to yearn for.

Very reasonable expectations, but — I think you must be new here.

#30 Comment By RATMDC On June 8, 2018 @ 6:01 pm

I think that I had read that Nation article before, and I just read it again. What it seems to miss is that being born into such circumstances is bad news for the kids, correlating as it does with nearly every bad outcome known. On top of that, and unusually for The Nation, there was no mention at all of climate change, and the non-negotiable need to reduce births in order to combat this calamity.

There’s an unspoken factor in this discussion, also. Most STDs are not HIV, or anything deadly like that. They are treatable, and while drug-resistant gonorrhea is a serious threat, hopefully new drugs and/or phage therapy can pick up the slack.

I mention this because, since the most common result is infertility or even sterility, and since that not only lowers the Total Fertility Rate but completely prevents abortion, is it really that bad? A great many children age out of the foster care system every year. They are available for people to raise!

Coercion is not something to take lightly, especially when it’s based on things like race. That shouldn’t get in the way of using this technology to do a world of good. A lot of people ought not to have children, and there’s certainly no harm in never being born.

Are you familiar with the One Key Question approach?: [6]

#31 Comment By JonF On June 11, 2018 @ 6:41 am

Re: Porn itself is born from the fact of male inequality, that a few men get to compete for the attention of the many females, while the many men are consigned to involuntary celibacy, or begrudgingly used as a meal ticket?

Oh good grief, not this nonsense again. No, that’s not how it works. A-list men compete with each for A-list women– they ignore anyone not at their level. so the B- and C-list women are available to the B- and C-list guys. It is very roughly egalitarian. To the extent some men, and yes some women too, are left without mates it’s due to their own shortcomings, and most of that has to do with personality problems not physical appearance– haven’t you ever seen homely or fat people married to each other?

#32 Comment By EliteCommInc. On June 11, 2018 @ 9:59 am

“You conservative christians have a “plank problem” with your own culture, one rife with ethno white nationalism, dear leader idol worship and exaltation of militarism/violent authority. Ya’ll even go around patting yourselves on your own backs about making the “ultimate sacrifice” . . . ”

This strongly suggests that your view of what constitutes “christian culture” is mighty thin. As for most of the comments made here about what it means to be a christian. A lot of excuses for not having a one on one relationship to christ. At the end of the day, christ is not going to ask you about what christians did or did not do eight — what christians were hypocrites, made mistakes . . . yada, yada, yada . . . there will be one simple truth you will have to face —-who you are and your relationship to christ, regardless of anyone else.

Oddly enough my house mate and I had an interesting conversation about celibacy this weekend, I think we are through, but maybe not. Always this element — no one cares, i disagree with her and these comments are telling. because so many here are using the supposed “misguided” notions about christianity to justify their own aberrant behavior.
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My roommate also brought this article based on news stories to my attention several weeks ago. This is a parent control issue. And the world has been wrestling away parental control since they ended prayer in school, taught relational behavior, having out contraceptives, telling children that a conceived child is just skin tissue . . . etc. As though academia knows anything about parenting — they know very little.

But a parent need only wrestle with one simple truth. What a child needs verses what he wants. No 7-13 years old needs an ipad or tablet or a phone with internet access. And no computer, tablet or ipad should be operated by children without limited access to such material.
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Celibacy is the spice of life, and it matters who maligns the concept and practice or what twisted views and practices others us in attempt to discredit practice expected by christ for unmarried individuals.

#33 Comment By mrscracker On June 11, 2018 @ 3:02 pm

EliteCommInc.

“Celibacy is the spice of life, and it matters who maligns the concept and practice or what twisted views and practices others us in attempt to discredit practice expected by christ for unmarried individuals.”
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I think it’s a wee bit lonely myself, but yes. What other option is there for an unmarried Christian?
It’s certainly safer both morally & health-wise.

#34 Comment By EliteCommInc. On June 12, 2018 @ 4:04 am

“I think it’s a wee bit lonely myself, but yes. What other option is there for an unmarried Christian?”

Currently, I am distracted attempting to lure a stray kitten into the house. The last thing i want is another addition to the six currently running thins around here.

Laughing . . . . grrrrrrrr.

rowing, waling, reading, jogging cycling, commenting, reading, commenting . . reading . . . commenting and there is always — dreaming . . . and showers and well . . .oh . . . work, one can flirt, tease and uhhh , , , reading, commenting . . .

#35 Comment By EliteCommInc. On June 23, 2018 @ 4:26 pm

I never fully answered this . . .

None. And while I constant fret about appearances . . . my housemate reminds me I am a prude as well as celibate —

#36 Comment By EliteCommInc. On June 23, 2018 @ 4:59 pm

laugh —

not always as prudish in my view as i should be. if it was hard to flirt before, it’s near life threatening to flirt in the meetoo environment