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Light at the End of the Tunnel . . .

The President just announced [1]that a “nearly complete” (only embassy security to remain) withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of the year, which is long overdue. TAC started exposing the Iraq Folly [2] in its first issue [3], some six months prior to the invasion.

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#1 Comment By James Canning On October 21, 2011 @ 11:32 am

Obama should have pulled all US troops out of Iraq by now. But better late than never.

Hillary Clinton remains determined to squander $300 million per year on “security” for US personnel in Iraq beginning 2012.

#2 Comment By James Canning On October 21, 2011 @ 11:34 am

And bravo, TAC, Taki, Pat Buchanan, on being right all along about sheer idiotcy and viciousness of the neocon programme to bring an unnecessary catastrophic war to Iraq. To “protect” Israel.

#3 Comment By James Canning On October 21, 2011 @ 11:37 am

Idiocy, of Iraq War. Which did, and will continue to do, great harm to the American people, for decades to come.

Was George W. Bush bamboozled by the neocons in the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans? Has he concealed the fact he was duped? Because he is embarassed? And he wants to profit from protecting the conspirators who set up the illegal war?

#4 Comment By tz On October 21, 2011 @ 11:51 am

The diplomat who wrote the how we lost iraqi hearts and minds book blogged that the need 5000 more mercaenaries for the embassy…

#5 Comment By tbraton On October 21, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

“Was George W. Bush bamboozled by the neocons in the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans? Has he concealed the fact he was duped?”

Despite the fact that he campaigned in 2000 proclaiming that he was for a “humble foreign policy” and against “nation-building” (which was why I voted for him in 2000 and against him in 2004), we know, according to his first Sec. of Treasury Paul O’Neil, that one of the first items on Bush’s agenda after he became President was “how to get rid of Saddam Hussein.” And that was nine months before 9/11, which merely provided the cover to invade a country that was connected in no way to 9/11 or Al Qaeda and did not attack us or threaten to attack us. It’s rather interesting that George W. set out to correct two “mistakes” of his father: (1) not going to Baghdad during the first Gulf War and overthrowing Hussein and (2) pulling out of Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal. As far as I am concerned, the fact that George W. regarded those as “mistakes” simply demonstrates his intellectual shortcomings. We were blessed with an idiot as President for eight years.

#6 Comment By tbraton On October 21, 2011 @ 12:38 pm

Let’s not forget that, after we pull out all of our military from Iraq, we will have a huge embassy manned by 17,000 persons, a large number of them miltary contractors.

#7 Comment By SteveM On October 21, 2011 @ 1:04 pm

Re: The Fortress-Embassy

They should blow up that vulgarian testament to American hubris and conceit on their way out.

#8 Comment By Ken Hoop On October 21, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

James Canning

I suppose it is impossible to prove whether Bush was bamboozled by the Zionist-dominated neocons or not, and if so, if was he bamboozled in part because he wanted to be bamboozled.

But what is easily proven-and of course Obama could have set in motion the gears to prove it but did not wish to do so because he is consciously dominated if not controlled by the same elite forces—is that Bush (and Cheney) purposely cherrypicked the intelligence they presented to the public, suppressing the more authoritative and significant fraction which dispelled the premise that Saddam still possessed WMDs.

This is criminal behavior.

#9 Comment By James Canning On October 21, 2011 @ 4:03 pm

tbraton – – It does appear that G W Bush had significant doubts about the merits of going after Iraq when, in Bush’s understanding (at least for first few months), Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Publicly, Bush did run his mouth, unwisely.

But I think the historical record will show Bush was in fact bamboozled by the neocons (with help from George Tenet).

An interesting aspect of this matter is whether Bush knew that the “Niger documents” were forgeries, and that the CIA knew they were forgeries, several years before Bush claimed that Iraq “had tried to buy uranium from Africa” (or some such) in his 2003 State of the Union address. It is quite possible that Hadley bamboozled Rice and Bush, on behalf of warmongering neocons.

#10 Comment By James Canning On October 21, 2011 @ 4:05 pm

tbraton – – I agree, idiotic squandering of large sums will continue in Iraq. And both parties do not want to admit what idiots they were in 2002-2003 to allow the illegal war to be set up and carried forward.

#11 Comment By Ben, Okla. City On October 21, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

Good move, Mr. President.

Now, the next time any of the hairy-chested armchair generals cook up another war under similar circumstances I’ll expect them to volunteer for the front lines and advocate for a war tax and conscription.

#12 Comment By RWS On October 21, 2011 @ 5:41 pm

Right. As if this is the draw-down of empire. Good grief. The embassy still stands and we essentially Shocked and Awed the Ira

#13 Comment By RWS On October 21, 2011 @ 5:42 pm

Right. As if this is the draw-down of empire. Good grief. The embassy still stands and we essentially Shocked and Awed the Iraqi people into accepting anything. We own the country despite the fact that the Iraqi government has apparently demanded we leave. One World is just so much closer.

#14 Comment By daddysteve On October 21, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

I predicted civil war if and when we ever left Iraq.
I stand by that prediction.
Never should have started this idiocy in the first place.

#15 Comment By Owen Sands On October 22, 2011 @ 4:49 am

Get ready for the neocon’s to start beating war drums again (they never really stop) when the Saudi-Iran proxy war turns into all out war. Perhaps our $15 trillion debt will keep us out this time.

#16 Comment By James Canning On October 22, 2011 @ 12:24 pm

Ken Hoop – – It has been established that Stephen Hadley was responsible for keeping the false contention in G W Bush’s 2003 State of the Union address, that Iraq had sought to buy uranium “in Africa”. The claim in effect was laundered by not mentioning “Niger” and by attributing the intel to Britain. It also is well known, among those who care about these things, that Jewish neocons in the Pentagon’s Office of Specian Plans, in fact openly advocated deceiving the American people by planting false storied in the media, etc.

French intelligence had established beyond any question, that there was no chance whatever that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

#17 Comment By James Canning On October 22, 2011 @ 12:27 pm

tbraton – – I know a number of Americans who voted for G W Bush in 2000 precisely because he advocated a humble foreign policy. And his opponent had foolishly chosen a warmongering neocon to run as his vice presidential candidate. Why was Al Gore so stupid as to choose Joe Lieberman?

#18 Comment By tbraton On October 22, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

“Why was Al Gore so stupid as to choose Joe Lieberman?”

I think your question provides its own answer: because he was stupid.

But, in fairness to Gore, he did get a plurality of votes nationwide, and, in a properly conducted vote, he would have won Florida and thus the election. He lost Florida, in large part, because of the infamous “butterfly ballot” designed by a Democratic official that was used in Palm Beach County. As a result of the confusing ballot, many voters (largely Jewish since PBC has a large Jewish population) mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan, instead of Gore/Lieberman. (The mysterious appearance of a voting bloc previously unknown, “Jews for Buchanan,” provoked much commentary.) I can attest to the confusing nature of the ballot since I voted in PBC that year and have saved a sample ballot mailed out to all registered voters. Even I was somewhat puzzled at first, but I was able to figure it out and voted for Bush/Cheney. I had no sympathy at all for all the unhappy voters (mostly Jewish) who appeared on TV starting the day after the election complaining of how they were cheated. Some of them claimed that they realized as soon as they left the polling place that they may have voted for the wrong guy. Duh!! They should have thought of that before they cast their ballots. It was made clear at my polling place (and I am sure it is standard procedure) that if you had any questions you could ask one of the numerous volunteers for assistance. I have no doubt that the actual vote count was accurate (it was done by machines), but I also have no doubt that a properly conducted election in Florida would have resulted in Gore becoming President.

#19 Comment By RP M On October 22, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

… and the Washington Post headline says:

“GOP presidential field unified in opposition to Iraq withdrawal”

By which of course they mean “all GOP candidates except HE-WHO-MUST-NOT-BE-MENTIONED”.

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