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I don’t have much to offer in the way of substantive legal analysis of the Iowa marriage ruling (pdf), but here’s one bit from William Duncan’s summary of the decision (via Andrew) that squares nicely with much of what I’ve been arguing is at stake in this debate: The court first held that same-sex couples [...]
Filed under: marriage
As a way to expand on some of what I posted yesterday and have written before on the topic of same-sex marriage, I’m pasting below the fold an essay on the subject that I wrote for Culture11 but which, sadly, never saw the light of day. I’m not at all sure that I endorse wholeheartedly [...]
Filed under: family, government/law, marriage, religion
There’s a lot that I’d like to say about Rod Dreher’s latest missive in the same-sex marriage discussion, but I’m strapped for time and so will confine myself just to one point. I agree with Alasdair MacIntyre, and so also with Rod, that modern liberalism lacks a certain sort of moral foundation, and that this [...]
Filed under: conservatism, family, marriage, morality, philosophy
She offers some thoughts our conversation with Scott Payne. I agree with this: Everybody remembers Ali taunting Ernie Terrell in 1967: "What’s my name, fool?" Whether or not you sympathize with Terrell’s reluctance to legitimize Ali’s conversion, I think it’s clear that the gentlemanly thing to do, given the situation, is to bite the bullet [...]
Filed under: marriage
In between football games this afternoon, the inimitable Freddie deBoer and I recorded a Skypecast on same-sex marriage with Scott Payne. Scott has the audio up at his site – give it a listen, and make sure you get to the end, or else you won’t get to hear Freddie admit that his position basically [...]
Filed under: government/law, marriage, personal
I’ve generally made an effort (or perhaps: given into the temptation) to keep myself out of the gay marriage debate, but this post of Freddie’s deserves a few words: … this is the bottom line for me: from the state’s end, it has to be called the same thing for heterosexual couples as homosexual couples, [...]
Filed under: marriage
By Mark Thompson Freddie DeBoer has an outstanding post up that discusses the way in which achieving legal and social equality, when it finally happens, will be the death knell for unified gay support of the coalition of the left. In essence he argues that success on these fronts would remove the raison d’etre for [...]
Filed under: government/law, marriage, politics
by J.L. Wall Rod Dreher has a long, interesting post up on the fallout from Prop. 8. Rod has said that if he lived in California, he’d have voted for it; I’d have voted against it, so we’re coming from opposite sides on this and I don’t by any means agree with all (most?) of [...]
I’m clearly not one to get all up in arms over gay marriage, but I’ve got to say that both Hilzoy and Andrew Sullivan seem to me to be completely missing the point of what John McCain was after in these remarks: I think that the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or [...]
Lee McCracken points to a post by Dale Carpenter, which argues that most of the cases that have conservatives all concerned about how allowing same-sex marriage will undermine religious freedom are ones that don’t really hinge on the civic legality of same-sex marriage at all: What these examples do not show … is that gay [...]