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		<title>By: The Tipping Point &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4940</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tipping Point &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Sullivan isn&#8217;t doing his best to erase any memory of his vital contribution to the medium, he&#8217;s actually a very good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charles H.</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4924</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard for me to imagine something more personal than where and how a woman decides to give birth. If a woman made certain decisions about the birth on a more emotional level, and decided that a small risk was worth taking, that&#039;s entirely her decision.   Her judgment? She decided on a complex number of factors, and frankly I&#039;d be afraid of a leader who cuts off all emotional/personal reasons for this type of decision in favor of the purely rational. Criticizing her for it smacks of liberal totalitarianism. Those who make a big deal out of it would probably feel comfortable working as guards in the Gulag. 

I can&#039;t stand Sarah Palin and voted for Obama, and I think all people who criticize and speculate about her birthing decision are slugs. Andrew Sullivan, whom I like otherwise, clearly has issues with strong women. Something about Palin touched an emotional nerve with him and clouded his judgment. Perhaps she reminded him of his mother on some visceral level. 

Frankly, this type of reaction seems to me a true barometer of where we are as men in America with regard to women in power. Not because she didn&#039;t win, but because we make up bizarre shit and criticize her on this level. It&#039;s disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to imagine something more personal than where and how a woman decides to give birth. If a woman made certain decisions about the birth on a more emotional level, and decided that a small risk was worth taking, that&#8217;s entirely her decision.   Her judgment? She decided on a complex number of factors, and frankly I&#8217;d be afraid of a leader who cuts off all emotional/personal reasons for this type of decision in favor of the purely rational. Criticizing her for it smacks of liberal totalitarianism. Those who make a big deal out of it would probably feel comfortable working as guards in the Gulag. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t stand Sarah Palin and voted for Obama, and I think all people who criticize and speculate about her birthing decision are slugs. Andrew Sullivan, whom I like otherwise, clearly has issues with strong women. Something about Palin touched an emotional nerve with him and clouded his judgment. Perhaps she reminded him of his mother on some visceral level. </p>
<p>Frankly, this type of reaction seems to me a true barometer of where we are as men in America with regard to women in power. Not because she didn&#8217;t win, but because we make up bizarre shit and criticize her on this level. It&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4907</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Fourth to you too, John!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Fourth to you too, John!</p>
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		<title>By: John Schwenkler</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4897</link>
		<dc:creator>John Schwenkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you say, Chet. Happy Fourth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you say, Chet. Happy Fourth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Uhh, no. It’s not. &lt;/i&gt;

Um, yes it is. People, as you must know, raise other people&#039;s children as their own all the time. Indeed, we have a legal arrangement to formalize that called &quot;adoption&quot;, so the idea that Palin is not the mother of the boy she calls her son really isn&#039;t that absurd.

If there are answers to Sullivan&#039;s questions about the circumstances of the birth, I&#039;d like to know what they are. &quot;It&#039;s none of your business&quot; is not an answer, it&#039;s an evasion. &quot;It would take a conspiracy more complex than the Moon Landing Hoax&quot; (that&#039;s a joke) is not an answer, because it&#039;s just not true. &quot;She went into labor during a speech at the governor&#039;s conference, but no one noticed she was even pregnant, and then while in labor flew 6 hours back to Alaska against FAA regulations but no one noticed she was even pregnant, and then drove another two hours from Anchorage to Wasilla still in labor to finally deliver on a day there&#039;s no record of any births by anyone named &#039;Palin&#039;&quot; isn&#039;t an answer because it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;completely un-fucking-believable.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s the &lt;i&gt;reported circumstances of Trig&#039;s birth&lt;/i&gt; that rises to the Rube Goldberg-esque level of absurdity and suspension of disbelief. Look, if there are good reasons to believe she&#039;s the real mother I&#039;d like to know what they are. &quot;She says so and you&#039;re a jackass for even asking&quot; is not a good reason to believe anything, it&#039;s an evasion to an uncomfortable question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uhh, no. It’s not. </i></p>
<p>Um, yes it is. People, as you must know, raise other people&#8217;s children as their own all the time. Indeed, we have a legal arrangement to formalize that called &#8220;adoption&#8221;, so the idea that Palin is not the mother of the boy she calls her son really isn&#8217;t that absurd.</p>
<p>If there are answers to Sullivan&#8217;s questions about the circumstances of the birth, I&#8217;d like to know what they are. &#8220;It&#8217;s none of your business&#8221; is not an answer, it&#8217;s an evasion. &#8220;It would take a conspiracy more complex than the Moon Landing Hoax&#8221; (that&#8217;s a joke) is not an answer, because it&#8217;s just not true. &#8220;She went into labor during a speech at the governor&#8217;s conference, but no one noticed she was even pregnant, and then while in labor flew 6 hours back to Alaska against FAA regulations but no one noticed she was even pregnant, and then drove another two hours from Anchorage to Wasilla still in labor to finally deliver on a day there&#8217;s no record of any births by anyone named &#8216;Palin&#8217;&#8221; isn&#8217;t an answer because it&#8217;s <i>completely un-fucking-believable.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the <i>reported circumstances of Trig&#8217;s birth</i> that rises to the Rube Goldberg-esque level of absurdity and suspension of disbelief. Look, if there are good reasons to believe she&#8217;s the real mother I&#8217;d like to know what they are. &#8220;She says so and you&#8217;re a jackass for even asking&#8221; is not a good reason to believe anything, it&#8217;s an evasion to an uncomfortable question.</p>
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		<title>By: John Schwenkler</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4893</link>
		<dc:creator>John Schwenkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“It’s somebody else’s baby” is at least as parsimonious an explanation as the idea of a pregnant woman - in labor - fly [&lt;em&gt;sic&lt;/em&gt;] 6 hours on an airplane.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhh, no. It&#039;s not. Please try again.

Unless by &quot;is at least as parsimonious an explanation as&quot; you mean &quot;is a damn Rube Goldberg contraption in comparison to&quot;, in which case you&#039;re spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“It’s somebody else’s baby” is at least as parsimonious an explanation as the idea of a pregnant woman &#8211; in labor &#8211; fly [<em>sic</em>] 6 hours on an airplane.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhh, no. It&#8217;s not. Please try again.</p>
<p>Unless by &#8220;is at least as parsimonious an explanation as&#8221; you mean &#8220;is a damn Rube Goldberg contraption in comparison to&#8221;, in which case you&#8217;re spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4892</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s somebody else&#039;s baby&quot; is at least as parsimonious an explanation as the idea of a pregnant woman - &lt;i&gt;in labor&lt;/i&gt; - fly 6 hours on an airplane. They &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t let women that pregnant on airplanes&lt;/i&gt;, for one thing. It&#039;s against FAA regulations. Try to board an airplane with more than four oz. of toothpaste and tell me how flexible those regulations are.

I&#039;m not a &quot;truther.&quot; I&#039;m just not aware of any logical principle that says that mothers never lie about who their babies are. Why is this the one single thing you&#039;re prepared to take her word on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s somebody else&#8217;s baby&#8221; is at least as parsimonious an explanation as the idea of a pregnant woman &#8211; <i>in labor</i> &#8211; fly 6 hours on an airplane. They <i>don&#8217;t let women that pregnant on airplanes</i>, for one thing. It&#8217;s against FAA regulations. Try to board an airplane with more than four oz. of toothpaste and tell me how flexible those regulations are.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a &#8220;truther.&#8221; I&#8217;m just not aware of any logical principle that says that mothers never lie about who their babies are. Why is this the one single thing you&#8217;re prepared to take her word on?</p>
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		<title>By: John Schwenkler</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4883</link>
		<dc:creator>John Schwenkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, boy! The infamous Chet is a Trig Truther! Kind of explains a few things ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, boy! The infamous Chet is a Trig Truther! Kind of explains a few things &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/schwenkler/2009/07/01/certain-doubts/comment-page-2/#comment-4882</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you all understand how many people would have to be involved in this type of cover up…&lt;/i&gt;

Do you? Six or eight, maybe, besides the people whose professional obligations &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; ensure their secrecy (doctors, nurses, everybody at the hospital.) Most of them family members. And, of course, she&#039;s certainly in a position to exact retribution - something she&#039;s demonstrated a willingness to do in the past.

Remember that the Tuskegee syphilis experiment was kept secret for 70 years and involved more than &lt;i&gt;200 people&lt;/i&gt; (that&#039;s in addition to the black men they killed.) People can keep secrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you all understand how many people would have to be involved in this type of cover up…</i></p>
<p>Do you? Six or eight, maybe, besides the people whose professional obligations <i>already</i> ensure their secrecy (doctors, nurses, everybody at the hospital.) Most of them family members. And, of course, she&#8217;s certainly in a position to exact retribution &#8211; something she&#8217;s demonstrated a willingness to do in the past.</p>
<p>Remember that the Tuskegee syphilis experiment was kept secret for 70 years and involved more than <i>200 people</i> (that&#8217;s in addition to the black men they killed.) People can keep secrets.</p>
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		<title>By: callingallcomets</title>
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		<dc:creator>callingallcomets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, folks, Gov Palin, as far as I am aware, has not yet indicated either explicitly or implicitly (like Romney) if she wishes to stand for the Presidency in 2012. Neither has she said anything about standing for Gov of Alaska again. Until she makes such an announcement it is pointless making any assumptions. 
As far as Sullivan is concerned it is totally clear that the man initially saw this sexy, sassy mature woman as a gay icon and the subsequent obsession with her womb and her fluids is a mask to cover up his own confused and guilt ridden thoughts..

Just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, folks, Gov Palin, as far as I am aware, has not yet indicated either explicitly or implicitly (like Romney) if she wishes to stand for the Presidency in 2012. Neither has she said anything about standing for Gov of Alaska again. Until she makes such an announcement it is pointless making any assumptions.<br />
As far as Sullivan is concerned it is totally clear that the man initially saw this sexy, sassy mature woman as a gay icon and the subsequent obsession with her womb and her fluids is a mask to cover up his own confused and guilt ridden thoughts..</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;</p>
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