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	<title>Comments on: Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss?</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas O. Meehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas O. Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The public is never &quot;On Record,&quot; that&#039;s why we&#039;re a representative democracy.  I don&#039;t have a position.  What I have is an observations and suggestions.  

The first is that the Congressmen are convinced that the general public doesn&#039;t want any ex-detainee neighbors. A few local officials in communities dependent on prison money are bucking that, for obvious reasons.  That doesn&#039;t change the Congressmen&#039;s feel for want the general public wants.

The second is that in the beginning there were undoubtedly some ordinary jihadi foot soldiers among the detainees.  Many have been repatriated. How the remaining detainees feel toward us can be imagined.  We are assured that the remaining detainees are hard core enemies.  Given the general bungling of the Bush administration, who knows?  

My third observation is your use of your term, &quot;as the law sentences them.&quot;  As they are considered &quot;unlawful combatants,&quot; in some sort of legal limbo, I have no idea what law really applies.  I am sure that the application of American legal system to these men will result in at least some being released among the rest of us.  I think the public sees and believes this and resents the failure of nerve on the part of their government.

The Bush administration spent a great deal of money and effort to focus public antipathy to our Islamic foes.  It&#039;s asking a great deal of that some public to now view them as ordinary legal defendants in court, just like all the petty American career criminals the government handles so well.

I&#039;m serious about paroling them to fight or run another day.  After all, many of them could have been sent to other countries but for ACLU complaints that the receiving governments might be mean to them.  This situation is a Gordian knot of legal nonsense and the best solution is the simplest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The public is never &#8220;On Record,&#8221; that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re a representative democracy.  I don&#8217;t have a position.  What I have is an observations and suggestions.  </p>
<p>The first is that the Congressmen are convinced that the general public doesn&#8217;t want any ex-detainee neighbors. A few local officials in communities dependent on prison money are bucking that, for obvious reasons.  That doesn&#8217;t change the Congressmen&#8217;s feel for want the general public wants.</p>
<p>The second is that in the beginning there were undoubtedly some ordinary jihadi foot soldiers among the detainees.  Many have been repatriated. How the remaining detainees feel toward us can be imagined.  We are assured that the remaining detainees are hard core enemies.  Given the general bungling of the Bush administration, who knows?  </p>
<p>My third observation is your use of your term, &#8220;as the law sentences them.&#8221;  As they are considered &#8220;unlawful combatants,&#8221; in some sort of legal limbo, I have no idea what law really applies.  I am sure that the application of American legal system to these men will result in at least some being released among the rest of us.  I think the public sees and believes this and resents the failure of nerve on the part of their government.</p>
<p>The Bush administration spent a great deal of money and effort to focus public antipathy to our Islamic foes.  It&#8217;s asking a great deal of that some public to now view them as ordinary legal defendants in court, just like all the petty American career criminals the government handles so well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious about paroling them to fight or run another day.  After all, many of them could have been sent to other countries but for ACLU complaints that the receiving governments might be mean to them.  This situation is a Gordian knot of legal nonsense and the best solution is the simplest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake - but not the one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake - but not the one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The public, TOM, is not on record as supporting your position with respect to Gitmo detainees on American soil.  We have had at least two locales suggest they&#039;d be happy to incarcerate terrorists for as long as the law sentences them.

Beyond that bit of truth is a question built into your statement - if we don&#039;t want Gitmo detainees on American soil, is that because they were not ALL terrorists before they were illegally held at Gitmo, but may very well be now?

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The public, TOM, is not on record as supporting your position with respect to Gitmo detainees on American soil.  We have had at least two locales suggest they&#8217;d be happy to incarcerate terrorists for as long as the law sentences them.</p>
<p>Beyond that bit of truth is a question built into your statement &#8211; if we don&#8217;t want Gitmo detainees on American soil, is that because they were not ALL terrorists before they were illegally held at Gitmo, but may very well be now?</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas O. Meehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas O. Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democratic cave-in is easy to explain.  The Dems understand that the public does not want anyone detained in Gitmo living in the US under any circumstances.   

Now the idea of declaring war on terror was a stupid idea.  The stupidity was compounded by creating a legally indefensible new class of prisoners.  It should have been obvious from the beginning that the American legal system would eventually manufacture rights and privileges for these people.  Given that we are stumbling around in a clash of civilizations that may take centuries, the whole business of prisoners of war is a nonsense.  Can we hold these characters for two hundred years?  

As I said at another post, the best policy would be to take the parole of these buggers and turn them loose somewhere in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan.  Then if they break their parole and attack, we have the option of killing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democratic cave-in is easy to explain.  The Dems understand that the public does not want anyone detained in Gitmo living in the US under any circumstances.   </p>
<p>Now the idea of declaring war on terror was a stupid idea.  The stupidity was compounded by creating a legally indefensible new class of prisoners.  It should have been obvious from the beginning that the American legal system would eventually manufacture rights and privileges for these people.  Given that we are stumbling around in a clash of civilizations that may take centuries, the whole business of prisoners of war is a nonsense.  Can we hold these characters for two hundred years?  </p>
<p>As I said at another post, the best policy would be to take the parole of these buggers and turn them loose somewhere in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan.  Then if they break their parole and attack, we have the option of killing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake - but not the one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake - but not the one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, you have put your finger squarely on the the No 1 fear of the progressive left - that Obama pulled the wool over our eyes. DADT, Gitmo, AfPak, the Bank Bail Outs, the maintained Bush DOJ positions, no truth commission, enemy combatant tribunals; the list goes on. We do have a flawed stimulus bill and a flawed (as I understand it) credit card bill, a repudiation of torture but no accountability, and a reversal of policy on stem cell research and abstinence only funding.  I hope it&#039;s worth it all.

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL, you have put your finger squarely on the the No 1 fear of the progressive left &#8211; that Obama pulled the wool over our eyes. DADT, Gitmo, AfPak, the Bank Bail Outs, the maintained Bush DOJ positions, no truth commission, enemy combatant tribunals; the list goes on. We do have a flawed stimulus bill and a flawed (as I understand it) credit card bill, a repudiation of torture but no accountability, and a reversal of policy on stem cell research and abstinence only funding.  I hope it&#8217;s worth it all.</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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