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		<title>By: Daniel McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Scott.  I enjoyed the WIlls piece much more than I expected to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Scott.  I enjoyed the WIlls piece much more than I expected to.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lahti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lahti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/books/review/Douthat-t.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ross Douthat reviews Steven Hayward on Ronald Reagan&lt;/a&gt; in Sunday&#039;s NYTBR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/books/review/Douthat-t.html" rel="nofollow">Ross Douthat reviews Steven Hayward on Ronald Reagan</a> in Sunday&#8217;s NYTBR.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lahti</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/2009/08/29/trs-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lahti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Garry Wills&lt;/a&gt; reviews Tanenhaus in the NYRoB for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nybooks.com/contents/20090924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;September 24&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23033" rel="nofollow">Garry Wills</a> reviews Tanenhaus in the NYRoB for <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/contents/20090924" rel="nofollow">September 24</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

Great piece, just one teeny tiny point:

&quot;TR is a great inspiration to neocons today: there’ s a reason the summer books issue of the Weekly Standard bears a cover image of Teddy in an inner tube.&quot;

I went to look this up and apparently it&#039;s Chesterton on the cover. Just thought I&#039;d let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>Great piece, just one teeny tiny point:</p>
<p>&#8220;TR is a great inspiration to neocons today: there’ s a reason the summer books issue of the Weekly Standard bears a cover image of Teddy in an inner tube.&#8221;</p>
<p>I went to look this up and apparently it&#8217;s Chesterton on the cover. Just thought I&#8217;d let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For one thing, with the federal government determining who qualifies to receive public funding, there would be no chance for new parties to arise.&quot;

Bruce Ackerman gets around this problem with his proposal to give every voting age citizen a yearly voucher which they could donate to any candidate or party of their choice.  

http://www.amazon.com/Voting-Dollars-Paradigm-Campaign-Finance/dp/030010149X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For one thing, with the federal government determining who qualifies to receive public funding, there would be no chance for new parties to arise.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bruce Ackerman gets around this problem with his proposal to give every voting age citizen a yearly voucher which they could donate to any candidate or party of their choice.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Voting-Dollars-Paradigm-Campaign-Finance/dp/030010149X" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Voting-Dollars-Paradigm-Campaign-Finance/dp/030010149X</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/2009/08/29/trs-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! Thanks, Drudge. I had only seen the thumbnail pic. I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! Thanks, Drudge. I had only seen the thumbnail pic. I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Drudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Weekly Standard cover is of GK Chesterton, not Teddy Roosevelt. It says so on the inside caption.

D&#039;oh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Weekly Standard cover is of GK Chesterton, not Teddy Roosevelt. It says so on the inside caption.</p>
<p>D&#8217;oh</p>
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		<title>By: The First Rule Of The Conservative Movement Is That Everyone Gets Read Out Of The Conservative Movement, Eventually &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>The First Rule Of The Conservative Movement Is That Everyone Gets Read Out Of The Conservative Movement, Eventually &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daniel McCarthy in TAC: In this interview with Jon Meacham, Tanenhaus makes like Basil Fawlty and doesn’t mention the war — the Iraq War, that is, which “serious conservatives” like David Frum supported. Tanenhaus had no problem criticizing the war until now and tying it to the Republicans’ dwindling electoral fortunes. But now that a Democrat is in office, suddenly health care is the thing that conservatives are supposedly screwing up. Even though attacks on the president’s plan have so far been rather popular. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Daniel McCarthy in TAC: In this interview with Jon Meacham, Tanenhaus makes like Basil Fawlty and doesn’t mention the war — the Iraq War, that is, which “serious conservatives” like David Frum supported. Tanenhaus had no problem criticizing the war until now and tying it to the Republicans’ dwindling electoral fortunes. But now that a Democrat is in office, suddenly health care is the thing that conservatives are supposedly screwing up. Even though attacks on the president’s plan have so far been rather popular. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill R., and Murray R., are -- wow, it&#039;s a &quot;Triple-R&quot; -- quite right that we&#039;ve heard this Tanenhaus line before. Yet I could at least respect at mythical &quot;Red Tory&quot; who supported a &quot;conservative&quot; welfare state but at least took civil liberties and a noninterventionist foreign policy seriously. Heck, even Robert Taft supported federal public housing plans and various other not-exactly-small-government measures. But whenever a Tanenhaus-type complains about the Right, the complaint is usually far about conservative opposition to big government than it is about conservative militarism and thuggery.  Social democracy always takes priority over peace and personal freedom. The only way in which this &quot;conservatism&quot; is distinguishable from the center-Left is that it might have a bit more rhetorical spin about being &quot;pro-family.&quot; (God knows there are misguided traditionalists who think that  a pro-family welfare state would be unproblematic and usher in a reign of Catholic virtue.) 

If all a Tanenhaus wants is a Right that is a.) a little abashed about how Iraq turned out, but not really repentant, and b.) in favor of a &quot;pro-family&quot; welfare state, then he already has much of what he wants, since Ramesh Ponnuru, David Frum, Ross Douthat, David Brooks, and a host of neoconservatives already affirm a program exactly like that. Hell, Karl Rove belongs in that category, too. These are the most prominent names in &quot;conservative&quot; print media, and fairly influential voices within the Beltway. They would all complain that the grassroots aren&#039;t on board with their &quot;moderate&quot; military welfarism -- the grassroots are too brusque, too bumptious, too worked up about Obama&#039;s birth certificate and illegal immigration. But the  grassroots Right is in the state it&#039;s in thanks in no small part to the likes of Ponnuru, Frum, Douthat, and Brooks. Since their program of welfare for families doesn&#039;t inspire anyone, their political allies wind up having to whip up enthusiasm for the military side of the program, and have to throw in some red meat about gays, immigrants, and abortion. But the NY-DC axis have no cause to complain, since that&#039;s the only way to sell the public on their insipid welfare-warfare program. He who wills the end must will the means. The only means toward getting the Right to embrace the welfare state is to get the Right hopped up about real wars or culture wars. But that&#039;s precisely what has cost the Right political power over the last four years. 

In short, the moderates created the extremists. And now they&#039;re just proposing more of the same.  Mencken may have said that no one ever went bankrupt underestimating the intelligence of the American people, but in this case I think the people have a lot more sense than media mod-cons. If they want welfarism, they&#039;ll get it from the experts -- the liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill R., and Murray R., are &#8212; wow, it&#8217;s a &#8220;Triple-R&#8221; &#8212; quite right that we&#8217;ve heard this Tanenhaus line before. Yet I could at least respect at mythical &#8220;Red Tory&#8221; who supported a &#8220;conservative&#8221; welfare state but at least took civil liberties and a noninterventionist foreign policy seriously. Heck, even Robert Taft supported federal public housing plans and various other not-exactly-small-government measures. But whenever a Tanenhaus-type complains about the Right, the complaint is usually far about conservative opposition to big government than it is about conservative militarism and thuggery.  Social democracy always takes priority over peace and personal freedom. The only way in which this &#8220;conservatism&#8221; is distinguishable from the center-Left is that it might have a bit more rhetorical spin about being &#8220;pro-family.&#8221; (God knows there are misguided traditionalists who think that  a pro-family welfare state would be unproblematic and usher in a reign of Catholic virtue.) </p>
<p>If all a Tanenhaus wants is a Right that is a.) a little abashed about how Iraq turned out, but not really repentant, and b.) in favor of a &#8220;pro-family&#8221; welfare state, then he already has much of what he wants, since Ramesh Ponnuru, David Frum, Ross Douthat, David Brooks, and a host of neoconservatives already affirm a program exactly like that. Hell, Karl Rove belongs in that category, too. These are the most prominent names in &#8220;conservative&#8221; print media, and fairly influential voices within the Beltway. They would all complain that the grassroots aren&#8217;t on board with their &#8220;moderate&#8221; military welfarism &#8212; the grassroots are too brusque, too bumptious, too worked up about Obama&#8217;s birth certificate and illegal immigration. But the  grassroots Right is in the state it&#8217;s in thanks in no small part to the likes of Ponnuru, Frum, Douthat, and Brooks. Since their program of welfare for families doesn&#8217;t inspire anyone, their political allies wind up having to whip up enthusiasm for the military side of the program, and have to throw in some red meat about gays, immigrants, and abortion. But the NY-DC axis have no cause to complain, since that&#8217;s the only way to sell the public on their insipid welfare-warfare program. He who wills the end must will the means. The only means toward getting the Right to embrace the welfare state is to get the Right hopped up about real wars or culture wars. But that&#8217;s precisely what has cost the Right political power over the last four years. </p>
<p>In short, the moderates created the extremists. And now they&#8217;re just proposing more of the same.  Mencken may have said that no one ever went bankrupt underestimating the intelligence of the American people, but in this case I think the people have a lot more sense than media mod-cons. If they want welfarism, they&#8217;ll get it from the experts &#8212; the liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to S.L. Toddard, I&#039;m pessimistic about getting wealth out of politics.  Even if all of the campaign-finance restrictions in &lt;i&gt;Buckley&lt;/i&gt; had been upheld, there would be yet other ways in which wealth could influence elections -- through ownership of newspapers, for example. And there are worse things than the influence of money; freeing the political system from financial influence through complete public funding would have the effect of making candidates wholly dependent on the government itself. That would distort the political system at least as much as the influence of money does.  For one thing, with the federal government determining who qualifies to receive public funding, there would be no chance for new parties to arise.

I&#039;d have to think carefully about what requirements Congress can place upon candidates for federal office, but putting aside that question, I favor less regulation of elections, not more. Let Ross Perot or Steve Forbes (or George Soros) give a few million dollars to a serious candidate rather than putting themselves forward.  Campaign finance reform actually backfired on the post-Watergate Democrats, since the Republicans quickly became a lot better at raising small donations through direct mail and making the most of independent expenditures and soft money.  The unalterable political reality is that money can be converted into power, which means the wealthy will always have means to affect things, and power can be converted into money, since the state has power to expropriate and regulate.  I have a little more faith in the plurality of interest among the wealthy, however, than within the government.  

Take the Ron Paul effort as an example of what the present campaign-finance laws have done.  Paul refused to do what most candidates do when they need money -- take out loans. He&#039;s against campaign debt on principle.  You might think that Paul received as much money as he could have needed from his huge base of small donors.  But in fact the money didn&#039;t necessarily come in on the timetable that he needed -- the December money bomb was already too late for ad buys in New Hampshire, for example.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain had no problem going into debt to finance their campaigns at the critical time, and Romney of course could tap his own money.  Without the contribution limits, Ron Paul could have raised a lot more money a lot more quickly.  Even though the absence of limits would also have helped other candidates, there&#039;s a diminishing marginal utility to more campaign dollars beyond a certain point -- for that reason, another few million for smaller candidates actually means a lot more to them than another few million for the debt-financed and self-financed candidates.

The best conservative and libertarian thinking that I&#039;ve read on the subject of the 14th Amendment and corporate personhood comes down against giving corporations national personhood.  Felix Morley has an excellent chapter on this, &quot;Commerce and Nationalization,&quot; in &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0913966878?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theamericonse-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0913966878&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Freedom and Federalism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. 14th amendment personhood subverted constitutionally legitimate state regulations of commercial activity, but also established the groundwork for all kinds of other expansions of central power. Both &quot;property rights&quot; and &quot;human rights&quot; were nationalized in the process. The federal executive branch and judicial branch profited, to the detriment of Congress and the state legislatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to S.L. Toddard, I&#8217;m pessimistic about getting wealth out of politics.  Even if all of the campaign-finance restrictions in <i>Buckley</i> had been upheld, there would be yet other ways in which wealth could influence elections &#8212; through ownership of newspapers, for example. And there are worse things than the influence of money; freeing the political system from financial influence through complete public funding would have the effect of making candidates wholly dependent on the government itself. That would distort the political system at least as much as the influence of money does.  For one thing, with the federal government determining who qualifies to receive public funding, there would be no chance for new parties to arise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to think carefully about what requirements Congress can place upon candidates for federal office, but putting aside that question, I favor less regulation of elections, not more. Let Ross Perot or Steve Forbes (or George Soros) give a few million dollars to a serious candidate rather than putting themselves forward.  Campaign finance reform actually backfired on the post-Watergate Democrats, since the Republicans quickly became a lot better at raising small donations through direct mail and making the most of independent expenditures and soft money.  The unalterable political reality is that money can be converted into power, which means the wealthy will always have means to affect things, and power can be converted into money, since the state has power to expropriate and regulate.  I have a little more faith in the plurality of interest among the wealthy, however, than within the government.  </p>
<p>Take the Ron Paul effort as an example of what the present campaign-finance laws have done.  Paul refused to do what most candidates do when they need money &#8212; take out loans. He&#8217;s against campaign debt on principle.  You might think that Paul received as much money as he could have needed from his huge base of small donors.  But in fact the money didn&#8217;t necessarily come in on the timetable that he needed &#8212; the December money bomb was already too late for ad buys in New Hampshire, for example.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain had no problem going into debt to finance their campaigns at the critical time, and Romney of course could tap his own money.  Without the contribution limits, Ron Paul could have raised a lot more money a lot more quickly.  Even though the absence of limits would also have helped other candidates, there&#8217;s a diminishing marginal utility to more campaign dollars beyond a certain point &#8212; for that reason, another few million for smaller candidates actually means a lot more to them than another few million for the debt-financed and self-financed candidates.</p>
<p>The best conservative and libertarian thinking that I&#8217;ve read on the subject of the 14th Amendment and corporate personhood comes down against giving corporations national personhood.  Felix Morley has an excellent chapter on this, &#8220;Commerce and Nationalization,&#8221; in <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0913966878?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=theamericonse-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0913966878" rel="nofollow">Freedom and Federalism</a></i>. 14th amendment personhood subverted constitutionally legitimate state regulations of commercial activity, but also established the groundwork for all kinds of other expansions of central power. Both &#8220;property rights&#8221; and &#8220;human rights&#8221; were nationalized in the process. The federal executive branch and judicial branch profited, to the detriment of Congress and the state legislatures.</p>
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