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	<title>Comments on: The Elements of Bad Style?</title>
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		<title>By: Warsaw Will</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/2009/04/26/the-elements-of-bad-style/comment-page-1/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>Warsaw Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you follow your own link you&#039;ll see that the first sentence of the section, which is headed &#039;Use the active voice.&#039; is:

 - The active voice is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive

and they then give a particularly unrealistic example of the passive which nobody would ever utter:

- My first visit to Boston will always be remembered by me.

So it&#039;s perhaps not surprising that some, like the National Parks Service, have misunderstood their intent. (http://www.nps.gov/crmo/forteachers/activity-3d.htm)

There are only two voices, so if you say &#039;Use the active voice&#039;, what on earth else could you be comparing it with other than the passive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you follow your own link you&#8217;ll see that the first sentence of the section, which is headed &#8216;Use the active voice.&#8217; is:</p>
<p> &#8211; The active voice is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive</p>
<p>and they then give a particularly unrealistic example of the passive which nobody would ever utter:</p>
<p>- My first visit to Boston will always be remembered by me.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s perhaps not surprising that some, like the National Parks Service, have misunderstood their intent. (<a href="http://www.nps.gov/crmo/forteachers/activity-3d.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nps.gov/crmo/forteachers/activity-3d.htm</a>)</p>
<p>There are only two voices, so if you say &#8216;Use the active voice&#8217;, what on earth else could you be comparing it with other than the passive?</p>
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		<title>By: RichardOn</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/2009/04/26/the-elements-of-bad-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting site, but much advertisments on him. Shall read as subscription, rss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting site, but much advertisments on him. Shall read as subscription, rss.</p>
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		<title>By: R J Stove</title>
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		<dc:creator>R J Stove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Dan.

I particularly like your observation that: &quot;Someone who takes the authors’ advice too literally will always write &lt;I&gt;fortissimo&lt;/I&gt;, without any understanding of the uses and virtues of the &lt;I&gt;pianissimo&lt;/I&gt;. Irony, impartiality, subtlety, and negation do have a place in good writing.&quot; 

To &lt;I&gt;The Elements of Style&lt;/I&gt;, which I discovered only in my late twenties, I owe 90% of what little formal grammatical training I&#039;ve ever acquired. (Naturally hip Australian public schools in the 1960s and 1970s weren&#039;t going to frustrate anyone&#039;s  &quot;creativity&quot; by offering such training.) So my debt to the book is considerable. 

And yet I do jib, not only at the factors Dan cites, but at another instruction in it, which Dan doesn&#039;t mention: the command to avoid all foreign terms whatsoever. Sometimes, at the risk of seeming &quot;elitist&quot;, &quot;fascist&quot;, etc., etc., one simply &lt;I&gt;must&lt;/I&gt; use a foreign phrase, to convey one&#039;s meaning. Imagine going through life attempting to discover concise English-language synonyms for &lt;I&gt;raison d&#039;être&lt;/I&gt;, or &lt;I&gt;mutatis mutandis&lt;/I&gt;, or &lt;I&gt;de facto&lt;/I&gt;, or &lt;I&gt;ad hoc&lt;/I&gt;, or half-a-dozen other imports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Dan.</p>
<p>I particularly like your observation that: &#8220;Someone who takes the authors’ advice too literally will always write <i>fortissimo</i>, without any understanding of the uses and virtues of the <i>pianissimo</i>. Irony, impartiality, subtlety, and negation do have a place in good writing.&#8221; </p>
<p>To <i>The Elements of Style</i>, which I discovered only in my late twenties, I owe 90% of what little formal grammatical training I&#8217;ve ever acquired. (Naturally hip Australian public schools in the 1960s and 1970s weren&#8217;t going to frustrate anyone&#8217;s  &#8220;creativity&#8221; by offering such training.) So my debt to the book is considerable. </p>
<p>And yet I do jib, not only at the factors Dan cites, but at another instruction in it, which Dan doesn&#8217;t mention: the command to avoid all foreign terms whatsoever. Sometimes, at the risk of seeming &#8220;elitist&#8221;, &#8220;fascist&#8221;, etc., etc., one simply <i>must</i> use a foreign phrase, to convey one&#8217;s meaning. Imagine going through life attempting to discover concise English-language synonyms for <i>raison d&#8217;être</i>, or <i>mutatis mutandis</i>, or <i>de facto</i>, or <i>ad hoc</i>, or half-a-dozen other imports.</p>
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