Comments on: Cheap Outrage http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/11/27/cheap-outrage/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cheap-outrage n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:25:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kouroi http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/11/27/cheap-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-34548 kouroi Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:29:54 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/?p=10342#comment-34548 Similar inefectual tactics were used to condemn soviet occupation of eastern europe. I '80 I flew a big kyte in a friends' grandma's village and the peasants became excited that the americans are coming. I guess posturing is a way of life. Similar inefectual tactics were used to condemn soviet occupation of eastern europe. I ’80 I flew a big kyte in a friends’ grandma’s village and the peasants became excited that the americans are coming. I guess posturing is a way of life.

]]> By: Daniel Larison http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/11/27/cheap-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-34359 Daniel Larison Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:47:32 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/?p=10342#comment-34359 A non-binding resolution recognizing something that happened over ninety years ago, and which everyone except Ankara and its paid apologists acknowledges was genocide, is not even remotely comparable to what we're talking about here. In any case, I changed my view on recognition when it became clear that Turkey would improve its relations with Armenia if we delayed using that language to refer to the genocide. As I have always argued, real improvements in policy are more important than patting ourselves on the back. A non-binding resolution recognizing something that happened over ninety years ago, and which everyone except Ankara and its paid apologists acknowledges was genocide, is not even remotely comparable to what we’re talking about here. In any case, I changed my view on recognition when it became clear that Turkey would improve its relations with Armenia if we delayed using that language to refer to the genocide. As I have always argued, real improvements in policy are more important than patting ourselves on the back.

]]> By: Seamus http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/11/27/cheap-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-34358 Seamus Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:18:46 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/?p=10342#comment-34358 <i>In this case, “speaking out” is worse than useless. It is the sort of empty rhetorical gesture that Westerners engage in to feel better about themselves and to make a public display of compassion for people for whom they cannot (and possibly would not) do anything meaningful.</i> Well, I would agree. But, IIRC, you took quite a different position a couple of years ago when Congress was threatening to engage in some ritual denunciations of the Armenian Massacre of 1915. In this case, “speaking out” is worse than useless. It is the sort of empty rhetorical gesture that Westerners engage in to feel better about themselves and to make a public display of compassion for people for whom they cannot (and possibly would not) do anything meaningful.

Well, I would agree. But, IIRC, you took quite a different position a couple of years ago when Congress was threatening to engage in some ritual denunciations of the Armenian Massacre of 1915.

]]> By: trizzlor http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/11/27/cheap-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-34351 trizzlor Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:53:53 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/?p=10342#comment-34351 At what point, if ever, do you think the media will realize that hollow overtures for democracy are generally harmful to the democratic cause by emboldening nascent movements before we are prepared to support them? Has Cohen's reaction *ever* not been the norm? Should we *ever* expect it not to be the norm? At what point, if ever, do you think the media will realize that hollow overtures for democracy are generally harmful to the democratic cause by emboldening nascent movements before we are prepared to support them? Has Cohen’s reaction *ever* not been the norm? Should we *ever* expect it not to be the norm?

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