Comments on: Son Of McCain

By: BarryD

BarryD — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:21:40 +0000

Gordianus, on October 19th, 2009 at 11:32 am Said:

“I suspect that our ideals are so far apart that debate is impossible. ”

D-mn f-cking straight.

By: Gordianus

Gordianus — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:26:46 +0000

Drumsju. First, the multi-cultural left creates a factionalized society based on race. Then it disallows one race from defending it’s interest. How very moral of you.

By: drumsju

drumsju — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:20:49 +0000

…and thus it is proven that conservatives are often racist. Keep it up, it helps us liberals win elections. But God help your immoral racist soul.

By: Gordianus

Gordianus — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:32:40 +0000

The old ploy about following America’s “Ideals” while destroying America’s substance is revealing. I suspect that our ideals are so far apart that debate is impossible.

The founders made explicit their opposition to mass immigration by people from dissimilar societies. I read the Constitution as reflecting their preferences rather than yours. We “lilly-white” people who have multi-generational investment in this republic have both a right and a duty to defend our interest, whatever your “Ideals” may be.

You do not engage in factual debate. Your emotional animus towards patriotic immigration reform leads me to the suspicion that you are a troll from the Commentary blog. You are obviously no conservative.

By: BarryD

BarryD — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:29:46 +0000

Gordianus, on October 17th, 2009 at 10:27 am Said:

“The 1965 immigration law is replacing the population and the culture, of the country I was born in. To conserve the culture you inherit is the essence of conservatism. What’s your agenda?”

Living up to the ideals of the USA?

By: BarryD

BarryD — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:29:09 +0000

Gordianus, on October 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pm Said:
“BarryD. You wrote, “I trust that you will refrain from offering any constitutional arguments against anything done by Democrats.” The meaning of this is unclear. Nothing I wrote suggests that I make constitutional arguments based on party. Try less to sound clever.”

Well, when arguing with you, I do end up getting mud on myself (as in the saying about wresting with swine), so I do sound less clever.

For your part, how about trying to lie a little less? You used the argument ‘the constitution is not a suicide pact’, when arguing against obeying the constitution (have somebody read it to you) where children born in the USA are citizens.

I pointed out that (in so many words) that anybody using that sort of argument is no longer morally entitled to complain about the opposition disobeying the constitution.

Perhaps you should get somebody who understands written English better to help you with this.

By: Gordianus

Gordianus — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:27:56 +0000

This shouldn’t be so hard but apparently it is, so I’ll spell this out. The majority of illegals are Hispanic. That doesn’t mean that all illegals are Hispanic. In my view we need to call a halt to all immigration immediately. With unemployment as high as it is, how can we justify the willing importation of workers to compete for scarce jobs? The H1B and other work related visa programs should also be ended, as they are used to displace American workers with cheap foreign substitutes.

You use the word bigot so I’ll tell you a little story. I was once the State of New Jersey’s Inspector of Halfway Houses. All halfway house inmates were responsible to find jobs as part of the regimen of rehabilitation. This was seen as a necessary step in reintegrating felons into society. Inmates could readily find jobs in warehousing and landscaping at the time. By the time I left, it was almost impossible to find such work due to the prevalence of illegals in these lines of work. Illegal immigration is a scourge on the Black community. So before you throw words like bigot around, think of who your mind set is hurting the most.

The 1965 immigration law is replacing the population and the culture, of the country I was born in. To conserve the culture you inherit is the essence of conservatism. What’s your agenda?

By: krogerfoot

krogerfoot — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:42:37 +0000

“BTW it’s not stereotyping to equating illegal immigration with Hispanics, it’s just a fact. If Hispanics aren’t the single largest group if illegal immigrants, who in you opinion is? Try not to stereotype in you reply.”

Okay, fine, Gordianus. I would have thought the notion “anti-amnesty = anti-Hispanic bigotry” was a simpleminded stereotype, but maybe I was misguided. Let us use “Hispanic” and “illegal immigrant” interchangeably then, if you prefer.

One question, though: Is the antipathy for the possessive pronoun case and the infinitive some kind of “legacy population of this country” thing? Which tribe would that be?

By: Gordianus

Gordianus — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:07:19 +0000

BarryD. You wrote, “I trust that you will refrain from offering any constitutional arguments against anything done by Democrats.” The meaning of this is unclear. Nothing I wrote suggests that I make constitutional arguments based on party. Try less to sound clever.

Krogerfoot. The truth is frequently ugly, haven’t you noticed? BTW it’s not stereotyping to equating illegal immigration with Hispanics, it’s just a fact. If Hispanics aren’t the single largest group if illegal immigrants, who in you opinion is? Try not to stereotype in you reply.

By: BarryD

BarryD — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:48:46 +0000

And I always love “The constitution is not a suicide pact.”
I trust that you will refrain from offering any constitutional arguments against anything done by Democrats.

By: Jim_west

Jim_west — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:30:40 +0000

“Dear me, where *do* people get the idea that conservative thinking is permeated with ugliness?”

Probably from liberals like yourself. Gordianus speaks the truth. If that is ugly to you then that is a problem. Do you find the truth ugly?

“Truly, that’s what McCain needed and the GOP needs to win back America’s esteem – more primitive stereotyping and more reflexive equation of Hispanics and illegal immigration.”

Yeah all those illegal Canadians and Swedes are really a problem. Again, you are uisng the wrong terminology. Reflective = Factual.

By: el_longhorn

el_longhorn — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:21:54 +0000

Wow, Gordianus. Quite impressive.

By: krogerfoot

krogerfoot — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:24:30 +0000

“. . . for primatives to sneak across our border in order to inflict their descendants, relatives and themselves upon us without our consent.”

Dear me, where *do* people get the idea that conservative thinking is permeated with ugliness?

Truly, that’s what McCain needed and the GOP needs to win back America’s esteem – more primitive stereotyping and more reflexive equation of Hispanics and illegal immigration.

By: Gordianus

Gordianus — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:27:28 +0000

BarryD, As a great liberal once said, “The constitution is not a suicide pact.” I concur. I defy you to find textual evidence for the intent of the framers for primatives to sneak across our border in order to inflict their descendants, relatives and themselves upon us without our consent.

You entertain the delusion that I’m a Bush supporter. In fact it is the Bush family that consistently sells out the legacy population of this country. As a “Big Tent” immigration enthusiast, you have more in common with them than I do.

Sorry you don’t like things “Lilly White.” That’s your problem.

By: S.L. Toddard

S.L. Toddard — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:56:34 +0000

As you predicted, Mr. Larison:

http://spectator.org/blog/2009/10/14/russia-thwarts-obama-on-iran