Tell Me Of Your Homeworld, Usul


Daniel Kennelly makes some interesting observations about the Peters column I criticized below. I should say a few words on why the column irritated me so much. As Kennelly notes, it was hardly the sort of column that someone already inclined to cheer on foreign wars, wink at “enhanced interrogation techniques” and dismiss civilian losses should write, unless he wants to appear, as Jim Antle says, as a sort of parody of a neoconservative written by his opponents. But that is exactly the problem. Peters’ columns often seem as if they could only be parodies of interventionism, or interventionist exercises in self-parody, because the views expressed in them seem so unmoored from reality, but more often than not interventionists are deadly serious when they make these claims. By the end of Peters’ column, he has to resort to a fairly lame qualification to keep from saying what he has been saying the entire time, which comes across like this: “I’m not saying Pashtuns are non-human, I’m just saying it sure seems that they are….”

If liberal internationalist views can be reduced to a simplified “all people want the same things” that ulimately leads to a squishy One Worldism, neoconservatives will modify this universalist idea with Peters’ sci-fi-inspired take. Both liberal internationalists and neoconservatives are globalists, especially in that they believe there need to be mechanisms for global governance, but neoconservatives (and liberal hawks who tend to agree with them on policy) seem to thrive on retaining the idea of a frontier or a periphery that still needs to be actively guarded. (Insert obvious open borders joke here.) As universalists, however, neoconservative interventionists are usually inclined to say, against mountains of evidence to the contrary, “All people want to be free,” which makes the ensuing “liberations” seem more legitimate because they are merely giving the people what they want. Peters might be less inclined, especially after this latest column, to say that all people want to be free, but the only way he seems to be able to make this point rhetorically is to turn the people who don’t want this into aliens and the places they inhabit into other planets. One World globalism and the idea that all people want the same thing survive by denying anyone who wants something else the status of human. Yes, what Peters is doing is rhetorical and arguably Peters does not “mean” it when he says that our enemies are not human, just as his confreres never “mean” it when they imply that dissenters against certain foreign policy decisions are traitors to their country and Iraq war supporters never “meant” it when they claimed that opponents sympathized with the enemy and wanted American forces to lose. Perhaps these, too, were merely mental exercises designed to shake things up.

For that matter, Peters’ qualification is not really good enough. Peters says that this does not mean that Pashtuns in the Taliban are “inferior,” but he insists that it means that they are “irreconcilably different beings.” To say that another group of people, no matter how different they are in custom and religion, is irreconcilably different is to say that we must be at war with them forever, or at least until one group is wiped out, because there can be no reconciliation, no peace. It is a more polite way of saying, “It’s them or us.” Sane people, on the other hand, know that it is not a question of it being a matter of “them or us.”

Indeed, Gen. Petraeus, who presumably knows something about these matters, thinks it is possible to negotiate and reconcile with at least some of the supposedly irreconcilably different people, which suggests that Peters may have learned the wrong lessons from his experiences. Of course, it is possible that there are people who prove to be unwilling to reconcile with their enemy as a matter of their upbringing and conditioning. What Peters does not even attempt to do is to consider whether the upbringing and conditioning of members of the Taliban allow for the possibility that they are not simply “irreconcilably different.” To the extent that the Pashtuns involved follow Pushtunwali more than they follow strict Wahhabist or Deobandist codes, their code of conduct not only permits but facilitates reconciliation after conflict. Indeed, one of the reasons why Pushtunwali endures and is reproduced over the centuries is that it serves a vital function in regulating vendetta and war. Peters’ gravest error is to conflate for rhetorical purposes significant cultural difference with a difference in nature, which at once minimizes the cultural basis for our radical differences in “values” and also exaggerates the degree of separation between us and the Pashtuns. It is a complete failure to understand the enemy, because the attempt to understand them is not even being made, which would be prelude to the failure of policy if anyone in government were foolish enough to take heed of Peters’ argument.

P.S. It is also worth contrasting Charles Krauthammer’s ridiculous “tribe or religion or whatever” argument with Peters’ alien thesis. Neither is correct, but if they meant what they wrote Krauthammer and Peters would have to regard the other’s argument as nonsense.

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6 Responses to “Tell Me Of Your Homeworld, Usul”

  1. Kennelly writes that, “This was what Peters was trying to say, of course, rather than suggesting that our enemies are beyond the pale of the protections of human dignity.”

    I don’t know what Peters was trying to say, but what he in fact did say was that Afghans are different from us because they’re perverts who want their children to die. This defense that he’s just asking us to think about how Afghan culture might be different from our own would be more credible if Peters had listed even one cultural difference that did not cast Afghans in a negative light and/or as implacable opponents of Americans and American values.

  2. Charlie, you make a good point about the fact that the only cultural difference Peters bothers to list is one that makes Afghans look like perverts. My eyes sort of skipped over that, and it really makes Peters look even worse.

    Speaking of speculative-fiction ruminations on alienness, I can’t believe I forgot to mention the discussion of this in Orson Scott Card’s Ender tetralogy, esp. the distinctions between utlanning, frammling, ramen, varelse, and djur. If I had to pick a cateogry Peters was trying to sweep the varied and multifaceted Afghan cultures into, it’s “varelse”–a judgment which reflects even more poorly on his argument.

  3. Thanks, Daniel.

    I suppose what bothers me about the analogy isn’t that Peters made it at all, since I can imagine (and have used, occasionally) perfectly benign versions of it. It’s his inability to turn things around and ask, “In what ways might we, an invading and occupying force from thousands of miles away, with an entirely different culture and entirely self-interested reasons for being in Afghanistan, strike the average Afghan is an alien imposition?” Approaching it from that perspective then leads you to wonder where you can find common ground, and what you can do to make your presence in that foreign country and foreign culture less disruptive and more acceptable to the average Afghan.

    Peters’ perspective leads to the assumptions on display in Peters’ column: that we are the “normal” baseline against which all else in the world is judged, and that divergence from American norms represents a sinister perversion of human nature. Fortunately, for all his posing as a hard-boiled representative of the military perspective, nobody in a position of responsibility in the US military advocates Peters’ reprehensible and counter-productive ideas about how we should view Iraqis and Afghans. The foundation of the counter-insurgency strategy that averted an even worse catastrophe in Iraq is the assumption that the occupying army should seek common ground with the civilian population rather than seeking to demonize and annihilate the people and groups that are most hostile to American values and the American presence in their country.

  4. Daniel, have you considered the possibility that you are just hyperventilating your own antipathy toward all things “neocon” toward a particular place (ie, this particular column) that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

    The point being that we can’t assume that Afghans (or Russians, etc) have have the same ambitions we do. I take it you’d probably agree with this if weren’t Peters who wrote it.

  5. ” I take it you’d probably agree with this if weren’t Peters who wrote it.”

    You would be completely wrong. I object to arguments that dehumanize other people, whether they do this as an “exercise” or not. It’s bad enough when hawks try to make another people into the embodiment of evil. Trying to portray them as something that isn’t human is probably the only thing more obnoxious than that. In case you haven’t noticed, it has been at this blog and this magazine where we cast a lot of doubt on simplistic ideas that everyone in the world desires the same things. We manage to acknowledge the importance and irreducibility of religious and cultural difference without descending into making this sort of absurd argument.

    Peters’ column is simply ridiculous, and if I weren’t the one attacking it I doubt you would bother to object.


  6. “Peters’ column is simply ridiculous, and if I weren’t the one attacking it I doubt you would bother to object.”

    Probably so, but you are a talent, and as much as you exasperate me sometimes I must credit you for that. If it were Paul Craig Roberts or Justin Raimondo I’d just have to let it be, though it would still be just as wrong.

    In any case, your “dehumanizing” reading only holds water (for me at least) to the extent that you refuse to consider its intended meaning which is obvious enough to me at least. Of course this is all fair play because it’s Peters who wrote it. You could even argue it’s “dehumanizing” but I don’t want to work that too hard because we’ve already overloaded that word too much as it is.

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