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	<title>Comments on: Nothing Human Is Alien To Me</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: antrastan</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/03/nothing-human-is-alien-to-me-2/comment-page-1/#comment-30088</link>
		<dc:creator>antrastan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hobbes in Aubrey&#039;s life, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hobbes in Aubrey&#8217;s life, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metropolitan Jonah said this, on Sanctity of Life Sunday:&lt;blockquote&gt;All the sins against humanity, abortion, euthanasia, war, violence, and victimization of all kinds, are the results of depersonalization. Whether it is &quot;the unwanted pregnancy&quot;, or worse, &quot;the fetus&quot; rather than &quot;my son&quot; or &quot;my daughter;&quot; whether it is &quot;the enemy&quot; rather than Joe or Harry (maybe Ahmed or Mohammed), the same depersonalization allows us to fulfill our own selfishness against the obstacle to my will. How many of our elderly, our parents and grandparents, live forgotten in isolation and loneliness? How many Afghan, Iraqi, Palestinian and American youths will we sacrifice to agonizing injuries and deaths for the sake of our political will? They are called &quot;soldiers,&quot; or &quot;enemy combatants&quot; or &quot;civilian casualties&quot; or any variety of other euphemisms to deny their personhood. But ask their parents or children! Pro-war is NOT pro-life! God weeps for our callousness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Describes Peters&#039;s way of thinking to a T. He needs our prayers, difficult as that may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metropolitan Jonah said this, on Sanctity of Life Sunday:<br />
<blockquote>All the sins against humanity, abortion, euthanasia, war, violence, and victimization of all kinds, are the results of depersonalization. Whether it is &#8220;the unwanted pregnancy&#8221;, or worse, &#8220;the fetus&#8221; rather than &#8220;my son&#8221; or &#8220;my daughter;&#8221; whether it is &#8220;the enemy&#8221; rather than Joe or Harry (maybe Ahmed or Mohammed), the same depersonalization allows us to fulfill our own selfishness against the obstacle to my will. How many of our elderly, our parents and grandparents, live forgotten in isolation and loneliness? How many Afghan, Iraqi, Palestinian and American youths will we sacrifice to agonizing injuries and deaths for the sake of our political will? They are called &#8220;soldiers,&#8221; or &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221; or &#8220;civilian casualties&#8221; or any variety of other euphemisms to deny their personhood. But ask their parents or children! Pro-war is NOT pro-life! God weeps for our callousness.</p></blockquote>
<p>Describes Peters&#8217;s way of thinking to a T. He needs our prayers, difficult as that may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of John Podhoretz&#039;s column from (I think) 2006, in which he coyly suggested that we &quot;win&quot; in Iraq by launching a campaign of genocide targeting Sunni Arab Iraqis.  Peters&#039; column is similar; both men drop the pretense that American foreign policy is about helping foreigners, and baldly begin from the assumption that foreigners are insects that might have to be crushed in the name of American &quot;security&quot; and American &quot;values.&quot;

Peters claims that he&#039;s not saying Afghans are inferior, only that they&#039;re different.  And he goes on to point out that they&#039;re different because, while we want good things for our children, Afghans want to murder their children and/or encourage their children to commit suicide.  He also implies, bizarrely, that sexual hypocrisy and non-procreative sex are oddball alien traits that define Afghans in opposition to Americans.

Peters derides the idea that we can get anywhere in Afghanistan if we assume that Afghans want physical and economic security.  There are limits to how much we can accomplish if we start with that assumption.  But we managed to avoid an even worse catastrophe in Iraq in part by belatedly embracing the limited goals of providing security and basic services to as many Iraqis as possible.  If we&#039;re going to be in Afghanistan at all I think that we&#039;ll be best off, morally and strategically, if we start from the assumption that Afghans are people.

Or we could start from Peters&#039; assumption that Afghans are perverted aliens who hate their children.  Let&#039;s see how far that gets us!  Best case scenario:  nowhere.  Worst case scenario:  genocide.  Great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of John Podhoretz&#8217;s column from (I think) 2006, in which he coyly suggested that we &#8220;win&#8221; in Iraq by launching a campaign of genocide targeting Sunni Arab Iraqis.  Peters&#8217; column is similar; both men drop the pretense that American foreign policy is about helping foreigners, and baldly begin from the assumption that foreigners are insects that might have to be crushed in the name of American &#8220;security&#8221; and American &#8220;values.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peters claims that he&#8217;s not saying Afghans are inferior, only that they&#8217;re different.  And he goes on to point out that they&#8217;re different because, while we want good things for our children, Afghans want to murder their children and/or encourage their children to commit suicide.  He also implies, bizarrely, that sexual hypocrisy and non-procreative sex are oddball alien traits that define Afghans in opposition to Americans.</p>
<p>Peters derides the idea that we can get anywhere in Afghanistan if we assume that Afghans want physical and economic security.  There are limits to how much we can accomplish if we start with that assumption.  But we managed to avoid an even worse catastrophe in Iraq in part by belatedly embracing the limited goals of providing security and basic services to as many Iraqis as possible.  If we&#8217;re going to be in Afghanistan at all I think that we&#8217;ll be best off, morally and strategically, if we start from the assumption that Afghans are people.</p>
<p>Or we could start from Peters&#8217; assumption that Afghans are perverted aliens who hate their children.  Let&#8217;s see how far that gets us!  Best case scenario:  nowhere.  Worst case scenario:  genocide.  Great!</p>
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		<title>By: cbh8377</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least he&#039;s honest: We can do whatever we want to the Mooslems because they aren&#039;t people. Explains a lot, actually.

It&#039;s remarkable to see that after a spectacular electoral shellacking, the Republican establishment just double down on the simple-minded idiocy that got them there in the first place. Taxes bad. Muslims bad. Spending bad. Joe the Plumber good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least he&#8217;s honest: We can do whatever we want to the Mooslems because they aren&#8217;t people. Explains a lot, actually.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s remarkable to see that after a spectacular electoral shellacking, the Republican establishment just double down on the simple-minded idiocy that got them there in the first place. Taxes bad. Muslims bad. Spending bad. Joe the Plumber good.</p>
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