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		<title>By: Derek Copold</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/02/no-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-30041</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Copold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Praise of No Imagination:

Sometimes small ball is the way to go.  I&#039;d love to see the GOP in sackcloth denouncing neocon interventionism.  I&#039;d love to see Kristol, Krauthammer, Perle, Gaffney, Cheney, Wolfowitze et. al, processing through the streets of DC like &lt;i&gt;flagellantes&lt;/i&gt;, yelling &quot;&lt;i&gt;Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima Culpa!&lt;/i&gt;&quot;  Hannity and Limbaugh could make appearances in hairshirts.  Lord knows it would be a beautiful sight.

But, we know this isn&#039;t going to happen, so the best tact to take for the next few years until the reality dawns is to stick with good negative criticisms of the ruling party&#039;s package.  There wont&#039; be any turnover in power soon, but it&#039;ll bide time, allowing the party to put some emotional distance between itself and its huge boners of the past eight years, so it can start reevaluating its governing philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Praise of No Imagination:</p>
<p>Sometimes small ball is the way to go.  I&#8217;d love to see the GOP in sackcloth denouncing neocon interventionism.  I&#8217;d love to see Kristol, Krauthammer, Perle, Gaffney, Cheney, Wolfowitze et. al, processing through the streets of DC like <i>flagellantes</i>, yelling &#8220;<i>Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima Culpa!</i>&#8221;  Hannity and Limbaugh could make appearances in hairshirts.  Lord knows it would be a beautiful sight.</p>
<p>But, we know this isn&#8217;t going to happen, so the best tact to take for the next few years until the reality dawns is to stick with good negative criticisms of the ruling party&#8217;s package.  There wont&#8217; be any turnover in power soon, but it&#8217;ll bide time, allowing the party to put some emotional distance between itself and its huge boners of the past eight years, so it can start reevaluating its governing philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ratufa</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/02/no-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-30036</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratufa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Deuce, that&#039;s like a Liberal&#039;s parody of an out-of-touch Republican.  So, the big Republican failure over the last 8 years is not Iraq, or a lackluster economy (cf. Frum), or Presidential/GOP incompetence to the point that the 2008 Republican Presidential nominee campaigned on a platform of &quot;change&quot;, or presiding over the run-up to the current economic nightmare, or that the Republican party has, to a large extent, abandoned the middle-class in favor of the rich and corporate interests, or any number of other substantive things that Republicans did (or didn&#039;t do). The big problem, according to you, is bad PR.  And the solution, according to you, does not involve changes such as having  policies that might have more appeal to working-class voters (cf. Douthat &amp; Salam for some examples), but tactics such as tuition caps to &quot;starve and marginalize&quot; universities, along with better PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Deuce, that&#8217;s like a Liberal&#8217;s parody of an out-of-touch Republican.  So, the big Republican failure over the last 8 years is not Iraq, or a lackluster economy (cf. Frum), or Presidential/GOP incompetence to the point that the 2008 Republican Presidential nominee campaigned on a platform of &#8220;change&#8221;, or presiding over the run-up to the current economic nightmare, or that the Republican party has, to a large extent, abandoned the middle-class in favor of the rich and corporate interests, or any number of other substantive things that Republicans did (or didn&#8217;t do). The big problem, according to you, is bad PR.  And the solution, according to you, does not involve changes such as having  policies that might have more appeal to working-class voters (cf. Douthat &amp; Salam for some examples), but tactics such as tuition caps to &#8220;starve and marginalize&#8221; universities, along with better PR.</p>
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		<title>By: M.Z. Forrest</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/02/no-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-30035</link>
		<dc:creator>M.Z. Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Policy-wise, the Democrats are pushing the same stuff they always have: more abortion, more spending, more regulation, harsher anti-growth environmental policies, more thought policing, socialized medicine, more union power, etc, etc.&lt;/i&gt;

Not really.  Are these these the things being pushed by Jim Webb and all the other democrats elected over the past 6 years.  Some of them, like more regulation are widely supported by the public now.

&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™d say that the biggest failure was one of communication&lt;/i&gt;
Every losing candidate and cause claims this.  While it is always possible the dressing was the problem, more often than not it is the package itself.

&lt;i&gt;And then to top it off, they found a candidate capable of inspiring a huge cult of personality.&lt;/i&gt;
This is more of a right wing invention.  It certainly speaks of the relationship of many on the right with Sarah Palin.  People that supported Obama generally did so because they supported what they believed he could accomplish, at least to the extent they had done so for any other candidate.  Part of what is seen of Obama worship is the product of incredulity that anyone person could support his positions or think them superior to McCain.

&lt;i&gt;Like the Democrats, they need some attractive, eloquent faces to front the organization&lt;/i&gt;
Are  you seeing the same Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Howard Dean I&#039;ve seen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Policy-wise, the Democrats are pushing the same stuff they always have: more abortion, more spending, more regulation, harsher anti-growth environmental policies, more thought policing, socialized medicine, more union power, etc, etc.</i></p>
<p>Not really.  Are these these the things being pushed by Jim Webb and all the other democrats elected over the past 6 years.  Some of them, like more regulation are widely supported by the public now.</p>
<p><i>Iâ€™d say that the biggest failure was one of communication</i><br />
Every losing candidate and cause claims this.  While it is always possible the dressing was the problem, more often than not it is the package itself.</p>
<p><i>And then to top it off, they found a candidate capable of inspiring a huge cult of personality.</i><br />
This is more of a right wing invention.  It certainly speaks of the relationship of many on the right with Sarah Palin.  People that supported Obama generally did so because they supported what they believed he could accomplish, at least to the extent they had done so for any other candidate.  Part of what is seen of Obama worship is the product of incredulity that anyone person could support his positions or think them superior to McCain.</p>
<p><i>Like the Democrats, they need some attractive, eloquent faces to front the organization</i><br />
Are  you seeing the same Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Howard Dean I&#8217;ve seen?</p>
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		<title>By: The Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Deuce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with school choice isn&#039;t that it&#039;s a bad policy. It&#039;s actually quite a good policy idea, but it doesn&#039;t get votes. It&#039;s pointless to push it from a tactical perspective. The problem is, the people it would most help (minorities in poor neighborhoods with failing schools) are so deep in the Democrats&#039; hip pockets that it doesn&#039;t really matter. It&#039;s pointless to try to appeal to them. They&#039;ve been voting against their own well-being for decades, no matter how severely liberal policies have destroyed their families and increased their misery, so why would they stop now?

The problem with the &quot;new ideas&quot; mantra is that there aren&#039;t that many fundamentally new ideas out there to be had as far as policy goes. Policy-wise, the Democrats are pushing the same stuff they always have: more abortion, more spending, more regulation, harsher anti-growth environmental policies, more thought policing, socialized medicine, more union power, etc, etc. What has primarily changed is just the way they&#039;re mobilizing and presenting their same old message.

While spending was a huge failure over the past 8 years, I&#039;d say that the biggest failure was one of communication. The Bush White House was nearly mute, seeing no need for PR at all. Meanwhile, the Democrats were mobilizing and building up an extensive communications structure. And then to top it off, they found a candidate capable of inspiring a huge cult of personality.

What the GOP primarily needs is new tactics, rather than new policies. Like the Democrats, they need some attractive, eloquent faces to front the organization, and they need to update their communications. They also need to find ways to disrupt the Democrats&#039; means of communication. In that they have a disadvantage, because liberals are far more enthusiastic about using government coercion to curtail the speech of opponents. But the GOP could find ways if they were smart. One example would be to campaign on tuition caps for universities receiving government money. It could be presented from a populist standpoint: &quot;to help struggling families afford educations in an economic downturn&quot; or something to that effect. But the real goal would be to starve and marginalize the universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with school choice isn&#8217;t that it&#8217;s a bad policy. It&#8217;s actually quite a good policy idea, but it doesn&#8217;t get votes. It&#8217;s pointless to push it from a tactical perspective. The problem is, the people it would most help (minorities in poor neighborhoods with failing schools) are so deep in the Democrats&#8217; hip pockets that it doesn&#8217;t really matter. It&#8217;s pointless to try to appeal to them. They&#8217;ve been voting against their own well-being for decades, no matter how severely liberal policies have destroyed their families and increased their misery, so why would they stop now?</p>
<p>The problem with the &#8220;new ideas&#8221; mantra is that there aren&#8217;t that many fundamentally new ideas out there to be had as far as policy goes. Policy-wise, the Democrats are pushing the same stuff they always have: more abortion, more spending, more regulation, harsher anti-growth environmental policies, more thought policing, socialized medicine, more union power, etc, etc. What has primarily changed is just the way they&#8217;re mobilizing and presenting their same old message.</p>
<p>While spending was a huge failure over the past 8 years, I&#8217;d say that the biggest failure was one of communication. The Bush White House was nearly mute, seeing no need for PR at all. Meanwhile, the Democrats were mobilizing and building up an extensive communications structure. And then to top it off, they found a candidate capable of inspiring a huge cult of personality.</p>
<p>What the GOP primarily needs is new tactics, rather than new policies. Like the Democrats, they need some attractive, eloquent faces to front the organization, and they need to update their communications. They also need to find ways to disrupt the Democrats&#8217; means of communication. In that they have a disadvantage, because liberals are far more enthusiastic about using government coercion to curtail the speech of opponents. But the GOP could find ways if they were smart. One example would be to campaign on tuition caps for universities receiving government money. It could be presented from a populist standpoint: &#8220;to help struggling families afford educations in an economic downturn&#8221; or something to that effect. But the real goal would be to starve and marginalize the universities.</p>
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		<title>By: tedschan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tedschan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Larison&#039;s predictions for the end of BSG? I wonder if the dying leader mentioned in the prophecy may actually turn out to be Bill Adama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Larison&#8217;s predictions for the end of BSG? I wonder if the dying leader mentioned in the prophecy may actually turn out to be Bill Adama.</p>
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		<title>By: taxman10m</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/02/no-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-30030</link>
		<dc:creator>taxman10m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please blog about the last season of BSG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please blog about the last season of BSG.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Larison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush and McCain both trotted out vouchers during their presidential campaigns, and Jack Kemp was all for it and various other &quot;empowerment zone&quot;-type policies before that.  It is a pointy-headed intellectual proposal that the politicians, ever desperate for &quot;outreach&quot; ideas, embraced as their own.  It is, of course, quite unpopular with actual GOP voters, whose schools for the most part are relatively successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush and McCain both trotted out vouchers during their presidential campaigns, and Jack Kemp was all for it and various other &#8220;empowerment zone&#8221;-type policies before that.  It is a pointy-headed intellectual proposal that the politicians, ever desperate for &#8220;outreach&#8221; ideas, embraced as their own.  It is, of course, quite unpopular with actual GOP voters, whose schools for the most part are relatively successful.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2009/02/02/no-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-30026</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have high-ranking GOP figures really pushed for school choice before? I thought it was mostly pointy-headed intellectuals from think-tanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have high-ranking GOP figures really pushed for school choice before? I thought it was mostly pointy-headed intellectuals from think-tanks.</p>
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		<title>By: MrCarl</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrCarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a better NFL analogy to describe the GOP. They&#039;re the Oakland Raiders. After an era of great success, total incompetency and stale tactics has led them to be a laughing stock. But the Raiders is ultimately a good coaching job to have, because if you win, you&#039;re declared a genius for a turnaround. If you fail, the incompetent management is blamed. I see the same thing here. If Michael Steele can make the GOP relavent again, he&#039;ll be hailed. If he fails, I think the media will ultimately blame a lack of high profile candidates and other factors for continual failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a better NFL analogy to describe the GOP. They&#8217;re the Oakland Raiders. After an era of great success, total incompetency and stale tactics has led them to be a laughing stock. But the Raiders is ultimately a good coaching job to have, because if you win, you&#8217;re declared a genius for a turnaround. If you fail, the incompetent management is blamed. I see the same thing here. If Michael Steele can make the GOP relavent again, he&#8217;ll be hailed. If he fails, I think the media will ultimately blame a lack of high profile candidates and other factors for continual failures.</p>
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