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	<title>Comments on: Lieven&#8217;s Good Advice</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No less than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/opinion/20kristof.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nick Kristof&lt;/a&gt; agrees on NATO expansion:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Note to Mr. Obama: It would be a nightmare to have our troops tethered through NATO to Misha [Saakashvili of Georgia]. In any case, Georgia doesnâ€™t obviously qualify for NATO membership since it doesnâ€™t control its full territory, while the talk about NATO pushes all the wrong Russian nationalist buttons.

â€œNATO is not Georgiaâ€™s future,â€ said Amy Denman, executive director of the American Chamber of Commerce in Georgia. â€œGeorgiaâ€™s future is economic growth. If they can continue the economic growth cycle theyâ€™re on, theyâ€™re safe.â€

Because Russia behaves irresponsibly â€” including its latest disgraceful threat to base missiles near Poland â€” the temptation in the Obama administration will be to continue with NATO expansion and perhaps even with the ill-advised missile system for Europe. (We have so many better ways to spend money!) Instead, letâ€™s engage Russia as we engage China â€” while still bluntly calling Russia on its uncivilized behavior.

Poking badly behaved bears is no substitute for sober diplomacy. We donâ€™t want Barack to be another Misha. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No less than <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/opinion/20kristof.html" rel="nofollow">Nick Kristof</a> agrees on NATO expansion:</p>
<blockquote><p>Note to Mr. Obama: It would be a nightmare to have our troops tethered through NATO to Misha [Saakashvili of Georgia]. In any case, Georgia doesnâ€™t obviously qualify for NATO membership since it doesnâ€™t control its full territory, while the talk about NATO pushes all the wrong Russian nationalist buttons.</p>
<p>â€œNATO is not Georgiaâ€™s future,â€ said Amy Denman, executive director of the American Chamber of Commerce in Georgia. â€œGeorgiaâ€™s future is economic growth. If they can continue the economic growth cycle theyâ€™re on, theyâ€™re safe.â€</p>
<p>Because Russia behaves irresponsibly â€” including its latest disgraceful threat to base missiles near Poland â€” the temptation in the Obama administration will be to continue with NATO expansion and perhaps even with the ill-advised missile system for Europe. (We have so many better ways to spend money!) Instead, letâ€™s engage Russia as we engage China â€” while still bluntly calling Russia on its uncivilized behavior.</p>
<p>Poking badly behaved bears is no substitute for sober diplomacy. We donâ€™t want Barack to be another Misha. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: jTh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I&#039;m in large agreement with you here.  &quot;Unfortunately,&quot; because I think this is exactly the way in which Obama will disappoint me most profoundly.  

You articulate the perspective that is woefully lacking among the people who most need to adopt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m in large agreement with you here.  &#8220;Unfortunately,&#8221; because I think this is exactly the way in which Obama will disappoint me most profoundly.  </p>
<p>You articulate the perspective that is woefully lacking among the people who most need to adopt it.</p>
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