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		<title>By: paxr55</title>
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		<dc:creator>paxr55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upthread, I didn&#039;t link the New Yorker article about how McCain came to pick Palin, whose face is sinking a thousand ships. Here it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is.&lt;/a&gt;

Ta-Nehisi Coates, the Atlantic blogger, read it and pronounced that Kristol, Barnes, Nordlinger, Hanson, and Limbaugh were played like &quot;herbs by a hot chick.&quot; (I think &quot;herb&quot; is rapper slang for dork.) Coates says they all appeared to be thinking, well, with the wrong head:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The prevailing idea is that Palin was pushed by cynical Republicans who were trying to achieve some mix of the following--a siphoning off of Hillary votes, an electrification of the base, and a shot to the McCain campaign. All of that&#039;s true, but there&#039;s another oft-understated factor--male conservatives thinking with the wrong head.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This sounds right to me. Their shameless cheerleading, together with McCain&#039;s dismal electoral prospects, appears to have short-circuited what should have been a sober and responsible VP selection process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upthread, I didn&#8217;t link the New Yorker article about how McCain came to pick Palin, whose face is sinking a thousand ships. Here it <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer" rel="nofollow">is.</a></p>
<p>Ta-Nehisi Coates, the Atlantic blogger, read it and pronounced that Kristol, Barnes, Nordlinger, Hanson, and Limbaugh were played like &#8220;herbs by a hot chick.&#8221; (I think &#8220;herb&#8221; is rapper slang for dork.) Coates says they all appeared to be thinking, well, with the wrong head:</p>
<blockquote><p>The prevailing idea is that Palin was pushed by cynical Republicans who were trying to achieve some mix of the following&#8211;a siphoning off of Hillary votes, an electrification of the base, and a shot to the McCain campaign. All of that&#8217;s true, but there&#8217;s another oft-understated factor&#8211;male conservatives thinking with the wrong head.</p></blockquote>
<p>This sounds right to me. Their shameless cheerleading, together with McCain&#8217;s dismal electoral prospects, appears to have short-circuited what should have been a sober and responsible VP selection process.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard J. Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard J. Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;[Mitt Romney] seemed to have absolutely no shame when it came to reinventing his public persona into whatever he thought a given audience wanted.&lt;/em&gt;

This sentence exaggerates far past the frontier of Not So, in my view.  Not so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>[Mitt Romney] seemed to have absolutely no shame when it came to reinventing his public persona into whatever he thought a given audience wanted.</em></p>
<p>This sentence exaggerates far past the frontier of Not So, in my view.  Not so.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that McCain has poor executive and managerial skills. Remember - he&#039;s a Senator. He probably didn&#039;t just go with his instinctive feeling, but simply didn&#039;t do enough vetting, and didn&#039;t get her prepared soon enough - which he could have started doing *months* before he had actually made a decision. If he went with his gut feeling without due diligence, that&#039;s quite different from going with his gut feeling after getting all the relevant info. Many good execs probably do the latter, not what McCain did. 

Then, she was handled very poorly *after* she was picked. Start with a huge, hyped up interview with a hostile interviewer for goodness&#039; sake? That&#039;s poor strategy. McCain&#039;s campaign imploded in the primaries due to poor fiscal management, and seems to have been plagued by internal dissent anyway (due to poor management).

He probably picked Palin for some good reasons - reformer who bucked her own party, telegenic, executive experience herself - but for some deluded reason thought he could get away with it while she was totally unprepared on national issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that McCain has poor executive and managerial skills. Remember &#8211; he&#8217;s a Senator. He probably didn&#8217;t just go with his instinctive feeling, but simply didn&#8217;t do enough vetting, and didn&#8217;t get her prepared soon enough &#8211; which he could have started doing *months* before he had actually made a decision. If he went with his gut feeling without due diligence, that&#8217;s quite different from going with his gut feeling after getting all the relevant info. Many good execs probably do the latter, not what McCain did. </p>
<p>Then, she was handled very poorly *after* she was picked. Start with a huge, hyped up interview with a hostile interviewer for goodness&#8217; sake? That&#8217;s poor strategy. McCain&#8217;s campaign imploded in the primaries due to poor fiscal management, and seems to have been plagued by internal dissent anyway (due to poor management).</p>
<p>He probably picked Palin for some good reasons &#8211; reformer who bucked her own party, telegenic, executive experience herself &#8211; but for some deluded reason thought he could get away with it while she was totally unprepared on national issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Indya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Sullivan thinks Parker is on to something.  

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/kathleen-parker.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Sullivan thinks Parker is on to something.  </p>
<p><a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/kathleen-parker.html" rel="nofollow">http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/kathleen-parker.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: conradg</title>
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		<dc:creator>conradg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to Parker, in light of your comment that McCain frequently makes bad decisions anyway, I think she&#039;s simply pointing to one example of how and why McCain makes a lot of bad decisions: he goes with his &quot;instincts&quot;, rather than making calm and cool intelligent decisions. In Palin&#039;s case, his &quot;instincts&quot; were to go with the hot, beautiful babe, and to ignore sounder rationales and the vetting process. It&#039;s not that sexual attraction is the only instinct McCain lets interfere with his judgment, however. There are numerous examples, such as his instinctual reaction to the Russia-Georgia conflict. I think if one examines all of McCain&#039;s bad judgments, one will almost always find that it&#039;s due to him allowing his instinctual emotions to override his capacity for sounder judgment. Call this  my GTM (General Theory of McCain). So you are right that even if Palin hadn&#039;t been beautiful, McCain would probably have flubbed the VP pick by going with some other instinctual drive of his, rather than make a sound and thougtful decision. He probably would have picked Lieberman out of loyalty and &quot;instinct&quot;, which would have been a terrible decision for entirely different reasons, but once again the result of McCain acting from his gut rather than his brain. 

Now, I&#039;m not saying that people should make all decisions logically and patiently weighing all factors. Some people certainly do have very refined and intelligent instincts. McCain just isn&#039;t one of them. He allows the lowest of his instincts to blind him to what&#039;s going on, and then he makes bad decisions that he has to use his intellect to defend, and that just doesn&#039;t work out very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to Parker, in light of your comment that McCain frequently makes bad decisions anyway, I think she&#8217;s simply pointing to one example of how and why McCain makes a lot of bad decisions: he goes with his &#8220;instincts&#8221;, rather than making calm and cool intelligent decisions. In Palin&#8217;s case, his &#8220;instincts&#8221; were to go with the hot, beautiful babe, and to ignore sounder rationales and the vetting process. It&#8217;s not that sexual attraction is the only instinct McCain lets interfere with his judgment, however. There are numerous examples, such as his instinctual reaction to the Russia-Georgia conflict. I think if one examines all of McCain&#8217;s bad judgments, one will almost always find that it&#8217;s due to him allowing his instinctual emotions to override his capacity for sounder judgment. Call this  my GTM (General Theory of McCain). So you are right that even if Palin hadn&#8217;t been beautiful, McCain would probably have flubbed the VP pick by going with some other instinctual drive of his, rather than make a sound and thougtful decision. He probably would have picked Lieberman out of loyalty and &#8220;instinct&#8221;, which would have been a terrible decision for entirely different reasons, but once again the result of McCain acting from his gut rather than his brain. </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not saying that people should make all decisions logically and patiently weighing all factors. Some people certainly do have very refined and intelligent instincts. McCain just isn&#8217;t one of them. He allows the lowest of his instincts to blind him to what&#8217;s going on, and then he makes bad decisions that he has to use his intellect to defend, and that just doesn&#8217;t work out very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Larison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  I realized the screw-up, and have now fixed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I realized the screw-up, and have now fixed it.</p>
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		<title>By: paxr55</title>
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		<dc:creator>paxr55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sank. Had sunk. Just sayin&#039;.)

Palin&#039;s attractiveness was part of what may have sunk McCain&#039;s ship. But if you read the account in this week&#039;s New Yorker of the NRO-sponsored Palin-meeting cruises to Alaska, Kristol&#039;s infatuation with the governor is most to blame. He wasted his cred on promoting her indefatigably to McCain. And McCain was dumb enough to suspend his judgment -- to ruinous effect for his campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sank. Had sunk. Just sayin&#8217;.)</p>
<p>Palin&#8217;s attractiveness was part of what may have sunk McCain&#8217;s ship. But if you read the account in this week&#8217;s New Yorker of the NRO-sponsored Palin-meeting cruises to Alaska, Kristol&#8217;s infatuation with the governor is most to blame. He wasted his cred on promoting her indefatigably to McCain. And McCain was dumb enough to suspend his judgment &#8212; to ruinous effect for his campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Indya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite agree. I agree that this column is weaker than her other columns on this subject, but Parker specifically noted that when asked about her knowledge of issues, an adviser said that he didn&#039;t know.  So I don&#039;t believe that she assumes that McCain was fully informed about Palin&#039;s (lack of) qualifications.  I do agree that he may make irrational and poor decisions for other reasons.  

I think it softens the blow against his judgment from one point of view, but whacks it harder from another, in that it is sexist - he thought with his cojones and proved to be very shallow indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite agree. I agree that this column is weaker than her other columns on this subject, but Parker specifically noted that when asked about her knowledge of issues, an adviser said that he didn&#8217;t know.  So I don&#8217;t believe that she assumes that McCain was fully informed about Palin&#8217;s (lack of) qualifications.  I do agree that he may make irrational and poor decisions for other reasons.  </p>
<p>I think it softens the blow against his judgment from one point of view, but whacks it harder from another, in that it is sexist &#8211; he thought with his cojones and proved to be very shallow indeed.</p>
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