Comments on: Pink And Yellow, Pink And Yellow http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:25:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Larison http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-14181 Daniel Larison Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:30:45 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/#comment-14181 Yes, Kagame was responsible for lighting the fuse for that war, since he pursued the genocidaires into Congo (or at least used that as the pretext for invading), but I was speaking of conflict relating specifically to the Rwanda genocide as it concerned Kagame's rise to power. If you'd like to talk about how lousy Kagame is, be my guest, but that isn't the point of my remark about him. The party establishments don't pretend to care very much about anyone in Africa except to throw them a few rhetorical bones, since there is absolutely no strategic value in meddling in Africa. Poor people don't enter into it. I think you don't understand the concept of the pink police state, or else you would agree that there is nothing in the article that matches up with what that refers to. The Woodstock reference was not mine. Your observation about Woodstock makes my point for me. I have no problem acknowledging that business interests and libertarians want to obscure the human costs of "creative destruction" to keep their game going. The abuses in the Marianas are considerable, and they are probably going to help bring down Shaffer in Colorado's Senate election, who has been tied to the labor abuses taking place there. Yes, Kagame was responsible for lighting the fuse for that war, since he pursued the genocidaires into Congo (or at least used that as the pretext for invading), but I was speaking of conflict relating specifically to the Rwanda genocide as it concerned Kagame’s rise to power. If you’d like to talk about how lousy Kagame is, be my guest, but that isn’t the point of my remark about him. The party establishments don’t pretend to care very much about anyone in Africa except to throw them a few rhetorical bones, since there is absolutely no strategic value in meddling in Africa. Poor people don’t enter into it.

I think you don’t understand the concept of the pink police state, or else you would agree that there is nothing in the article that matches up with what that refers to. The Woodstock reference was not mine. Your observation about Woodstock makes my point for me.

I have no problem acknowledging that business interests and libertarians want to obscure the human costs of “creative destruction” to keep their game going. The abuses in the Marianas are considerable, and they are probably going to help bring down Shaffer in Colorado’s Senate election, who has been tied to the labor abuses taking place there.

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Thank you.

]]> By: JoshSN http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-14172 JoshSN Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:05:50 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/#comment-14172 1) Kagame was instrumental in starting the Second Congo War, which killed over 6 million people since President Bush took office. I know we agree that Bush's foreign policy makes Sarah Palin's look plausible, but the fact is the Bush administration mentioned the mass slaughter in DRC during one week (the 2004 Olympics were on) in his entire 8 years. In case you were wondering (3,000,000 in 3 years vs. 300,000 in 30 years (Iraq) means the DRC meatgrinder was 100 times more grisly than Iraq ever was. Republican partisans don't seem to care about poor people's lives at all. 2) Second, although Woodstock was certainly about license, it was _not_ about product satisfaction. Bad metaphor alert. You also need to acknowledge that pro-business forces, including libertarians, ( and you are not going to believe me ) have a vested interest in keeping people ignorant. There is no profit if people find out, and care about, slave-like labor in the Northern Marianas. As Francis Parkman said about Colonial Governor of Virginia, Lord Berkley, that he praised god there were no public schools in Virginia, and no prospect of them for a century. 1) Kagame was instrumental in starting the Second Congo War, which killed over 6 million people since President Bush took office. I know we agree that Bush’s foreign policy makes Sarah Palin’s look plausible, but the fact is the Bush administration mentioned the mass slaughter in DRC during one week (the 2004 Olympics were on) in his entire 8 years. In case you were wondering (3,000,000 in 3 years vs. 300,000 in 30 years (Iraq) means the DRC meatgrinder was 100 times more grisly than Iraq ever was. Republican partisans don’t seem to care about poor people’s lives at all.

2) Second, although Woodstock was certainly about license, it was _not_ about product satisfaction. Bad metaphor alert.

You also need to acknowledge that pro-business forces, including libertarians, ( and you are not going to believe me ) have a vested interest in keeping people ignorant. There is no profit if people find out, and care about, slave-like labor in the Northern Marianas. As Francis Parkman said about Colonial Governor of Virginia, Lord Berkley, that he praised god there were no public schools in Virginia, and no prospect of them for a century.

]]> By: Maximos http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-14160 Maximos Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:30:31 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/19/pink-and-yellow-pink-and-yellow/#comment-14160 It's almost as though no one has ever read Plato; it's not as though this tendency has lain undiagnosed, lo these many centuries. Wait. No one <I>does</I> read Plato any longer. Seriously, though, something that has been obvious for 25 centuries is presented as some momentous discovery, an occasion for Deep Thoughts and much clucking of tongues? We're doomed. It’s almost as though no one has ever read Plato; it’s not as though this tendency has lain undiagnosed, lo these many centuries.

Wait. No one does read Plato any longer. Seriously, though, something that has been obvious for 25 centuries is presented as some momentous discovery, an occasion for Deep Thoughts and much clucking of tongues? We’re doomed.

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