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	<title>Comments on: Out Of Exile</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: wheelhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/22/out-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-12535</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in Caddyshack: &quot;don&#039;t you people have homes?&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: J Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/22/out-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-12491</link>
		<dc:creator>J Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that I am new to this reactionary viewpoint, and I&#039;m trying to gather some clarification on at least some of the broad ideas.  I have seen, in a couple of posts now (this one and another on the site called the Reactionary Imperative), advice given that one should resist the lure of participating or following national politics and elections as they exist in this foundationally flawed system.  Instead we should withdraw to our homes, churches, and communities to focus on remaking culture slowly but surely in more meaningful and lasting ways through education, family, persuasion, and countercultural living.  The point where I get confused is when comments like these are then surrounded by all sorts of commentary about the national elections.  We are advised not to be destracted by the Right/Left debate because it is meaningless anyway, then we are invited to read a post about the thoughts of the latest right winger trying to stake out their current condition taking into account the latest developments in national party affairs.

In the above article, it was put forward that a win for John McCain would be a distraction for real conservatives as they would feel inclined to spend time defending him or criticizing him instead of rebuilding culture for the long haul starting at home.  So what is a true conservative to do, vote for Obama so we can free up more time and avoid temptation of getting too invlolved?  Refuse to vote, in defiance of the entire system?  Spend time trying to get an alternative candidate off the ground?  Is that a good use of time that could be otherwise spent running an aggressive Catholic homeschooling program with my kids?  It seems like 3rd party efforts and anti-system candidates might take the most time commitment of all options.  And if we were to do such a thing, we are still participating in the very system that we are spending the rest of our time criticizing as inherently inefficient at best and immoral at worst.

I ask these things with all due respect, not to just to be obnoxious.  Like I said, I am just trying to get a handle on the school of thought that seems to be a trend here.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m missing something, but I truly am looking to become informed on the matter and hear some practical suggestions on how one might act consistently with such a viewpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I am new to this reactionary viewpoint, and I&#8217;m trying to gather some clarification on at least some of the broad ideas.  I have seen, in a couple of posts now (this one and another on the site called the Reactionary Imperative), advice given that one should resist the lure of participating or following national politics and elections as they exist in this foundationally flawed system.  Instead we should withdraw to our homes, churches, and communities to focus on remaking culture slowly but surely in more meaningful and lasting ways through education, family, persuasion, and countercultural living.  The point where I get confused is when comments like these are then surrounded by all sorts of commentary about the national elections.  We are advised not to be destracted by the Right/Left debate because it is meaningless anyway, then we are invited to read a post about the thoughts of the latest right winger trying to stake out their current condition taking into account the latest developments in national party affairs.</p>
<p>In the above article, it was put forward that a win for John McCain would be a distraction for real conservatives as they would feel inclined to spend time defending him or criticizing him instead of rebuilding culture for the long haul starting at home.  So what is a true conservative to do, vote for Obama so we can free up more time and avoid temptation of getting too invlolved?  Refuse to vote, in defiance of the entire system?  Spend time trying to get an alternative candidate off the ground?  Is that a good use of time that could be otherwise spent running an aggressive Catholic homeschooling program with my kids?  It seems like 3rd party efforts and anti-system candidates might take the most time commitment of all options.  And if we were to do such a thing, we are still participating in the very system that we are spending the rest of our time criticizing as inherently inefficient at best and immoral at worst.</p>
<p>I ask these things with all due respect, not to just to be obnoxious.  Like I said, I am just trying to get a handle on the school of thought that seems to be a trend here.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m missing something, but I truly am looking to become informed on the matter and hear some practical suggestions on how one might act consistently with such a viewpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/22/out-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-12475</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that Obama proves the point (to a point): After the close-but-no-cigar run of Gore and the liberal-posing-as-a-hawk disaster of Kerry, Democratic voters (and superdelegates, of course) changed course, nominating instead a liberal who&#039;s not afraid to talk compromise (though, as Daniel so often points out, may or may not &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; compromise), a person who&#039;s intelligent and yet not exceedingly condescending, and who can enter a warzone and yet heed the better angels that say &quot;Hey, maybe you should skip the flak jacket and the tour of the tank.&quot;

I just finished reading Novak&#039;s memoirs (brief review: bloated, somewhat interesting and quite egotistical), and at least appreciated his blunt take on the Gingrich revolution: Something about how the wheels came off before they&#039;d gotten out of the driveway. Here&#039;s hoping that one day, when a retro-conservative of the Ron Paul type manages to make it into a position of authority, there&#039;s a little more staying power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that Obama proves the point (to a point): After the close-but-no-cigar run of Gore and the liberal-posing-as-a-hawk disaster of Kerry, Democratic voters (and superdelegates, of course) changed course, nominating instead a liberal who&#8217;s not afraid to talk compromise (though, as Daniel so often points out, may or may not <i>actually</i> compromise), a person who&#8217;s intelligent and yet not exceedingly condescending, and who can enter a warzone and yet heed the better angels that say &#8220;Hey, maybe you should skip the flak jacket and the tour of the tank.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just finished reading Novak&#8217;s memoirs (brief review: bloated, somewhat interesting and quite egotistical), and at least appreciated his blunt take on the Gingrich revolution: Something about how the wheels came off before they&#8217;d gotten out of the driveway. Here&#8217;s hoping that one day, when a retro-conservative of the Ron Paul type manages to make it into a position of authority, there&#8217;s a little more staying power.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisgbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisgbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œRepublican thinkers plotted their revolution... in bars instead of in the Executive Office Building&quot;

Let me, for one, endorse a reversion to this practice.
(although i&#039;m also willing to accept that it be an &quot;and&quot; rather than &quot;either/or&quot; proposition)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œRepublican thinkers plotted their revolution&#8230; in bars instead of in the Executive Office Building&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me, for one, endorse a reversion to this practice.<br />
(although i&#8217;m also willing to accept that it be an &#8220;and&#8221; rather than &#8220;either/or&#8221; proposition)</p>
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		<title>By: chrisgbr</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/22/out-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-12469</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisgbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œRepublican thinkers plotted their revolution... in bars instead of in the Executive Office Building&quot;

Let me, for one, endorse a reversion to this practice.</description>
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<p>Let me, for one, endorse a reversion to this practice.</p>
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