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	<title>Comments on: On Bishirjian (II)</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larison</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12467</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Larison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he&#039;s great.  I do know him.  His wife attends the church where I was baptised, and he has been responsible for directing many a St. John&#039;s student to Orthodoxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he&#8217;s great.  I do know him.  His wife attends the church where I was baptised, and he has been responsible for directing many a St. John&#8217;s student to Orthodoxy.</p>
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		<title>By: patkirts</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12465</link>
		<dc:creator>patkirts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know David Starr; a most remarkable man, and a wonderful tutor. Do you know him personally? I had him for Greek just this past year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know David Starr; a most remarkable man, and a wonderful tutor. Do you know him personally? I had him for Greek just this past year.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larison</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12393</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Larison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment and the kind words.  I have a very good friend who is a St. John&#039;s alumnus, and many of the students from the college have come to my old parish, St. Juliana&#039;s, over the years and wound up becoming Orthodox.  Do you know David Starr?  Anyway, I am very fond of St. John&#039;s and I have a lot of respect for their model of instruction.  I considered going there for undergraduate, but ultimately opted for a more conventional liberal arts college.

I agree that Bishirjian wasn&#039;t specific enough in addressing the problems with what the government does.  As to your question, I think in Bishirjian&#039;s vision and certainly in mine there would be some authority in private community institutions to regulate behaviour of their members.  How they would go about enforcing that would probably depend heavily on the nature of the institution and the requirements that members accept in belonging to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment and the kind words.  I have a very good friend who is a St. John&#8217;s alumnus, and many of the students from the college have come to my old parish, St. Juliana&#8217;s, over the years and wound up becoming Orthodox.  Do you know David Starr?  Anyway, I am very fond of St. John&#8217;s and I have a lot of respect for their model of instruction.  I considered going there for undergraduate, but ultimately opted for a more conventional liberal arts college.</p>
<p>I agree that Bishirjian wasn&#8217;t specific enough in addressing the problems with what the government does.  As to your question, I think in Bishirjian&#8217;s vision and certainly in mine there would be some authority in private community institutions to regulate behaviour of their members.  How they would go about enforcing that would probably depend heavily on the nature of the institution and the requirements that members accept in belonging to them.</p>
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		<title>By: patkirts</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12380</link>
		<dc:creator>patkirts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Larison,

I&#039;m a student at St. John&#039;s in Santa Fe, and I felt compelled to tell you how much I like your blog, which I came across in a Greenwald link. I&#039;ve never really considered myself a conservative, but I do find myself agreeing with a lot of what you and Bishirjian have to say. Maybe I part ways in that I think he didn&#039;t articulate the problem with the current state forcefully enough, and had little to say about the military-industrial complex and the war on drugs. A question: Do these other non-state institutions, such as church and local communities, have the right or power to regulate and monitor individual behavior?

Also, at least a few of us at St. John&#039;s might qualify as Buddhist Hayekians, but we are exceptionally weird.

Patrick Kirts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Larison,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a student at St. John&#8217;s in Santa Fe, and I felt compelled to tell you how much I like your blog, which I came across in a Greenwald link. I&#8217;ve never really considered myself a conservative, but I do find myself agreeing with a lot of what you and Bishirjian have to say. Maybe I part ways in that I think he didn&#8217;t articulate the problem with the current state forcefully enough, and had little to say about the military-industrial complex and the war on drugs. A question: Do these other non-state institutions, such as church and local communities, have the right or power to regulate and monitor individual behavior?</p>
<p>Also, at least a few of us at St. John&#8217;s might qualify as Buddhist Hayekians, but we are exceptionally weird.</p>
<p>Patrick Kirts</p>
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		<title>By: Ratufa</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12308</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratufa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things really irritated me about that Bishirjian piece:  One is that he ignores those parts of the private sector that are also a threat to the moral, family and community-based life he wants to promote.  For many communities, the threat that they worry about is not some bureaucrat in Washington.  It&#039;s some company executive  with a spreadsheet in New York calculating the upsides to moving production from their community to China or Mexico.  And when he points to Six Flags or Busch Gardens as  examples of the wonderful ability of private enterprise to entertain thousands, I wonder if he thinks the same about the Grand Theft Auto games or pay-per-view porn at the Marriott?

The second thing is that most of his proposals just seem so jejune compared to his goals.  Privatize air traffic control?  Capital gains tax reform?  Tell me again how those things will relieve the emptiness of our culture?  Even if they are just examples of things we can do to reduce government, why choose those particular things? 
As you (and Ross) point out, this is a distraction from his main points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things really irritated me about that Bishirjian piece:  One is that he ignores those parts of the private sector that are also a threat to the moral, family and community-based life he wants to promote.  For many communities, the threat that they worry about is not some bureaucrat in Washington.  It&#8217;s some company executive  with a spreadsheet in New York calculating the upsides to moving production from their community to China or Mexico.  And when he points to Six Flags or Busch Gardens as  examples of the wonderful ability of private enterprise to entertain thousands, I wonder if he thinks the same about the Grand Theft Auto games or pay-per-view porn at the Marriott?</p>
<p>The second thing is that most of his proposals just seem so jejune compared to his goals.  Privatize air traffic control?  Capital gains tax reform?  Tell me again how those things will relieve the emptiness of our culture?  Even if they are just examples of things we can do to reduce government, why choose those particular things?<br />
As you (and Ross) point out, this is a distraction from his main points.</p>
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		<title>By: Paleo myopia? &#171; Upturned Earth &#124;&#124; John Schwenkler</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/07/16/on-bishirjian-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-12291</link>
		<dc:creator>Paleo myopia? &#171; Upturned Earth &#124;&#124; John Schwenkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paleo&#160;myopia? July 16, 2008, 1:23 pm  Filed under: civil liberties, conservatism, economics, government, taxation, war  See: Douthat, Larison, Douthat, and Larison. (Will also blogged a few days ago about the essay that set all of this off.) I&#8217;d add a few thoughts: [...]</description>
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