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	<title>Comments on: Anti-American-Baiting</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: Eunomia &#187; The Triumph Of P.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/28/anti-american-baiting/comment-page-1/#comment-10376</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunomia &#187; The Triumph Of P.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Leaving aside discussing what intellectual tasks are too difficult for Hannity (our time here on earthÂ is limited, afterÂ all), the portrayal of Obama as a fraud is not a sign of nervousness.Â  There is something else going on here.Â  As I&#8217;ve said before a couple times, there is a dynamic of disappointment and competitionÂ behind mainstream conservative attacks on Obama: his optimism and Americanism must be shown to be fraudulent, because theyÂ compete the competing mainstream conservative version of these things, andÂ theÂ assumption that they are fraudulent inspiresÂ feelings of disappointment and anger towards a liberal whom they had once hoped would be respectable and respectful of their views.Â  They and Obama are closer to one another than probably either sideÂ would like to admit, which is why youÂ see so much pious sermonising attacking Obama from the left aboutÂ the &#8220;racism&#8221; of his church while trying to find excuses to pin anti-Americanism on himÂ with such dubious controversies as theÂ flag pin.Â  In a related way, &#8220;pro-Israel&#8221; conservatives cannot, must not, admit the possibility that Obama is alsoÂ just asÂ &#8221;pro-Israel&#8221; as they are, because that would mean that thereÂ are alternative ways toÂ be &#8220;pro-Israel&#8221; other than theirs.Â  This is not exactly nervousness, but the arrogant sense ofÂ superiority that any P.C. inquisitor has for his target, who does represent a challenge but whom they are quite confident they can destroy politically.Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Leaving aside discussing what intellectual tasks are too difficult for Hannity (our time here on earthÂ is limited, afterÂ all), the portrayal of Obama as a fraud is not a sign of nervousness.Â  There is something else going on here.Â  As I&#8217;ve said before a couple times, there is a dynamic of disappointment and competitionÂ behind mainstream conservative attacks on Obama: his optimism and Americanism must be shown to be fraudulent, because theyÂ compete the competing mainstream conservative version of these things, andÂ theÂ assumption that they are fraudulent inspiresÂ feelings of disappointment and anger towards a liberal whom they had once hoped would be respectable and respectful of their views.Â  They and Obama are closer to one another than probably either sideÂ would like to admit, which is why youÂ see so much pious sermonising attacking Obama from the left aboutÂ the &#8220;racism&#8221; of his church while trying to find excuses to pin anti-Americanism on himÂ with such dubious controversies as theÂ flag pin.Â  In a related way, &#8220;pro-Israel&#8221; conservatives cannot, must not, admit the possibility that Obama is alsoÂ just asÂ &#8221;pro-Israel&#8221; as they are, because that would mean that thereÂ are alternative ways toÂ be &#8220;pro-Israel&#8221; other than theirs.Â  This is not exactly nervousness, but the arrogant sense ofÂ superiority that any P.C. inquisitor has for his target, who does represent a challenge but whom they are quite confident they can destroy politically.Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tedschan</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/28/anti-american-baiting/comment-page-1/#comment-10287</link>
		<dc:creator>tedschan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; It takes the liberal worldview that one knows better than others whatâ€™s good for them &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think liberals are the only ones guilty of intellectual arrogance. But liberals are wrong in thinking that their positions are justifiable through an appeal to universal reason alone, and that those who disagree are somehow irrational or prejudiced or both, or they are not putting enough effort into doing what should be done or what reason dictates, and that is all success requires. Hence their explanations for why things are not going as they should be in Iraq and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> It takes the liberal worldview that one knows better than others whatâ€™s good for them </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think liberals are the only ones guilty of intellectual arrogance. But liberals are wrong in thinking that their positions are justifiable through an appeal to universal reason alone, and that those who disagree are somehow irrational or prejudiced or both, or they are not putting enough effort into doing what should be done or what reason dictates, and that is all success requires. Hence their explanations for why things are not going as they should be in Iraq and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: tikhon</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/28/anti-american-baiting/comment-page-1/#comment-10282</link>
		<dc:creator>tikhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the most important line: They have to keep emphasising how far away from them, the mainstream conservatives, he is supposed to be, because otherwise people would begin to notice all of the assumptions that they share with him.

Here is the true victory of liberalism, the true defeat of conservative thought, not in the policy specifics but in assumptions of how things are and how the world works.  It takes the liberal worldview that one knows better than others what&#039;s good for them to spawn a Project for a New American Century, or that Iraq and the whole Middle East would be better remade in our image and likeness (or one sufficiently &quot;western&quot; and &quot;democratic&quot; for our tastes) or that anyone on earth would greet an invasion force as liberators because they mean well....

Conservatives know that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, liberals think good intentions absolve every error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the most important line: They have to keep emphasising how far away from them, the mainstream conservatives, he is supposed to be, because otherwise people would begin to notice all of the assumptions that they share with him.</p>
<p>Here is the true victory of liberalism, the true defeat of conservative thought, not in the policy specifics but in assumptions of how things are and how the world works.  It takes the liberal worldview that one knows better than others what&#8217;s good for them to spawn a Project for a New American Century, or that Iraq and the whole Middle East would be better remade in our image and likeness (or one sufficiently &#8220;western&#8221; and &#8220;democratic&#8221; for our tastes) or that anyone on earth would greet an invasion force as liberators because they mean well&#8230;.</p>
<p>Conservatives know that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, liberals think good intentions absolve every error.</p>
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		<title>By: Bustrofedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bustrofedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant analysis - Obama is a pleasant, sunny interventionist imperialist: a smarter, left-wing version of Reagan or Bush (and that is no complement to Obama, Bush or Reagan). This probably explains much of the vitriol against Obama on the right even though the reality is that all three remaining candidates are terrible (Obama being a little better because he is younger but - give him time...).

It reminds me of that Jefferson quote about fearing for our country because God is just.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant analysis &#8211; Obama is a pleasant, sunny interventionist imperialist: a smarter, left-wing version of Reagan or Bush (and that is no complement to Obama, Bush or Reagan). This probably explains much of the vitriol against Obama on the right even though the reality is that all three remaining candidates are terrible (Obama being a little better because he is younger but &#8211; give him time&#8230;).</p>
<p>It reminds me of that Jefferson quote about fearing for our country because God is just.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not offended by Rev. Wright&#039;s imputation of sinfulness to this country, nor do I think it unpatriotic to point to national failings, so often congruent with one&#039;s own. I would be more inclined however, to say &quot;God have mercy on America!&quot; or &quot;Great Physician, heal America,&quot;  rather than &quot;God Damn America!&quot;

I&#039;m given pause, rather, by the loopy conspiracy theories and the apparent failure of a preacher of black theology to speak to the sins that prevail among his own ethny. Would Obama appoint a Special Prosecutor to seek out the formulators of HIV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not offended by Rev. Wright&#8217;s imputation of sinfulness to this country, nor do I think it unpatriotic to point to national failings, so often congruent with one&#8217;s own. I would be more inclined however, to say &#8220;God have mercy on America!&#8221; or &#8220;Great Physician, heal America,&#8221;  rather than &#8220;God Damn America!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m given pause, rather, by the loopy conspiracy theories and the apparent failure of a preacher of black theology to speak to the sins that prevail among his own ethny. Would Obama appoint a Special Prosecutor to seek out the formulators of HIV?</p>
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