Comments on: Fact And Analysis http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fact-and-analysis n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:25:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Larison http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-9930 Daniel Larison Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:06:44 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/#comment-9930 I have made my objections known about Mr. Hart's criticisms of populism in the past, but I don't think it's at all fair to say that he is anything like a "horrible snob." Not knowing him personally, I couldn't make such a claim, and his writing does not suggest this. Also, there is a difference between being an elitist and being a snob. Technically, a snob is someone from a lower status who makes a point of emphasising his higher status once he has risen in the ranks. In other words, the snob is the arriviste who acts as if he is now better than the people from whom he came. Elitists may have their flaws, but they are completely different flaws than those of a snob. I have made my objections known about Mr. Hart’s criticisms of populism in the past, but I don’t think it’s at all fair to say that he is anything like a “horrible snob.” Not knowing him personally, I couldn’t make such a claim, and his writing does not suggest this. Also, there is a difference between being an elitist and being a snob. Technically, a snob is someone from a lower status who makes a point of emphasising his higher status once he has risen in the ranks. In other words, the snob is the arriviste who acts as if he is now better than the people from whom he came. Elitists may have their flaws, but they are completely different flaws than those of a snob.

]]> By: chrisgbr http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-9927 chrisgbr Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:32:09 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/#comment-9927 Hart sound like a horrible snob that conservatism is better off without. Hart sound like a horrible snob that conservatism is better off without.

]]> By: Daniel Larison http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-9922 Daniel Larison Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:50:14 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/#comment-9922 "Finished" may not be the same thing as fallen. I can imagine some of these institutions toterring along for years, maybe decades, but with less and less influence. We are moving from the era when the movement was a business to the era when it is becoming a scam, to use the old line, and I think a lot of people in the rising generation simply won't buy into it. Ten years ago I heard people saying that a lot of young people are more conservative than their parents. I don't hear that anymore, and most young "conservatives" that there are tend to be party boosters first. As for whether the GOP is "doomed" politically, it all depends on what we mean by "doomed." Out of power in Congress for another generation? Maybe. Will it cease to exist? Almost certainly not. But I wouldn't measure the movement's fortunes strictly by what happens to the GOP. Binding itself so closely to the party badly damaged the movement, but the party will probably live on long after the movement recedes. A McCain victory would probably ironically continue the movement's downward trajectory. “Finished” may not be the same thing as fallen. I can imagine some of these institutions toterring along for years, maybe decades, but with less and less influence. We are moving from the era when the movement was a business to the era when it is becoming a scam, to use the old line, and I think a lot of people in the rising generation simply won’t buy into it. Ten years ago I heard people saying that a lot of young people are more conservative than their parents. I don’t hear that anymore, and most young “conservatives” that there are tend to be party boosters first.

As for whether the GOP is “doomed” politically, it all depends on what we mean by “doomed.” Out of power in Congress for another generation? Maybe. Will it cease to exist? Almost certainly not. But I wouldn’t measure the movement’s fortunes strictly by what happens to the GOP. Binding itself so closely to the party badly damaged the movement, but the party will probably live on long after the movement recedes. A McCain victory would probably ironically continue the movement’s downward trajectory.

]]> By: taxman10m http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-9921 taxman10m Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:33:27 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/04/05/fact-and-analysis/#comment-9921 What do you mean exactly when you say that the conservative movement will fail in its current form. Will National Review fold at some point? Will right wing talk radio be rejected by listeners? Is the Republican Party doomed politically? Etc. A short while ago Bill Kristol was rewarded with a job at the NYT. In a world where loss of credibility mattered he should at this time be a pariah. I don't hold out much hope that things will change in the way they should. What do you mean exactly when you say that the conservative movement will fail in its current form. Will National Review fold at some point? Will right wing talk radio be rejected by listeners? Is the Republican Party doomed politically? Etc.

A short while ago Bill Kristol was rewarded with a job at the NYT. In a world where loss of credibility mattered he should at this time be a pariah. I don’t hold out much hope that things will change in the way they should.

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