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Pastor: God Blesses Trump Nuclear War

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Robert Jeffress, President Trump’s court pastor, hits bottom, digs [2].

“When it comes to how we should deal with evil doers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil. In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong-Un. I’m heartened to see that our president — contrary to what we’ve seen with past administrations who have taken, at best, a sheepish stance toward dictators and oppressors — will not tolerate any threat against the American people. When President Trump draws a red line, he will not erase it, move it, or back away from it. Thank God for a President who is serious about protecting our country.”

This is obsceneGod forbid that we should have to go to war at all, much less a nuclear war, which would be a catastrophe for humanity. But Jeffress ought to be praying against such a thing, not goading it on. What is wrong with him?!

Says conservative Evangelical writer Joe Carter:

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72 Comments To "Pastor: God Blesses Trump Nuclear War"

#1 Comment By Anonne On August 9, 2017 @ 1:48 pm

It won’t be long before Franklin Graham and Anne Graham Lotz are on board, as well as Jerry Falwell, Jr. And others, certainly. They will countenance anything Trump does.

#2 Comment By Another Matt On August 9, 2017 @ 2:24 pm

Coming out of my twin-raising retirement to comment here. Rod, you may remember me telling you about how, in childhood, I and my siblings would get in trouble for praying for peace, because peace is what Satan wants. This pastor’s comment should not be surprising in the slightest – God is always on America’s side, and (Republican) presidents are ordained by God to smite His enemies.

#3 Comment By Captain P On August 9, 2017 @ 2:43 pm

“In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong-Un. I’m heartened to see that our president — contrary to what we’ve seen with past administrations who have taken, at best, a sheepish stance toward dictators and oppressors — will not tolerate any threat against the American people.”

In God’s eyes, the life of an American is not any more or less valuable than the life of a Korean. Furthermore, the idea that military action is authorized to neutralize any “threat” to the U.S. runs antithetical to the Christian just war tradition, as it is a clear instance of “preventative war.” Kicking off a war that would undoubtedly kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Koreans is not proportionate to the chance that SOMEDAY a nuclear missile HYPOTHETICALLY could be fired at the U.S. by the Kim regime.

#4 Comment By Liam On August 9, 2017 @ 2:49 pm

Collin

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#5 Comment By Elijah On August 9, 2017 @ 3:04 pm

Once again, Rod, I don’t know how you moderate these comboxes without your head exploding.

#6 Comment By jamie On August 9, 2017 @ 3:05 pm

Oh lord, the virtue signaling moralists are out again.

Here lies Virtue Signaling
July 30, 2013 ✝ August 9, 2017
Beloved son of Piety
Born an afterthought, in life a sneer, in death a cliché

#7 Comment By Bruce On August 9, 2017 @ 5:00 pm

What is the difference between a proud atheist-communist country and a proud capitalistic “christian nation ” ? One of them knows they are atheist and in no wise christian . God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.

#8 Comment By ScottA On August 9, 2017 @ 7:11 pm

So from killing ragheads for Jesus to now killing Koreans for Jesus?

But the problem is that China doesn’t want NK’s government overthrown because they don’t want the refugees flooding into their country and they don’t want the US military moving up to their border, which they didn’t want during the Korean War either.

And China is way more powerful now than it was during the 1950s.

#9 Comment By No Comment On August 9, 2017 @ 8:10 pm

So from killing ragheads for Jesus to now killing Koreans for Jesus?

Are you referring to the “ragheads” killed in the 8 countries droned/bombed on Barack Obama’s orders or the ones killed in the Iraq War that Hillary Clinton supported with her vote, along with other leading Democrats?

#10 Comment By No Comment On August 9, 2017 @ 8:29 pm

It won’t be long before Franklin Graham and Anne Graham Lotz are on board, as well as Jerry Falwell, Jr. And others, certainly. They will countenance anything Trump does.

Let’s hope it will be long before the liberal interventionists, Never Trumpers, McCainics, neocons and Hillary Clinton supporters who want civilization-ending nuclear war with Russia over the Baltic states and Ukraine return to power.

#11 Comment By Michael J. Machnica On August 9, 2017 @ 8:52 pm

Bible believers that actually read their bibles (and believe the verses) will know that there will be no nuclear holocaust that occurs before the Lord Jesus Christ returns to set up his millennial kingdom on earth.
However, just because God’s prophetic program dealing with the nation of Israel (Luke.1:70,Acts 3:21- KJV)has been put on hold during this dispensation of grace (Rom. 16:25, Eph. 3:2-6 – KJV) that does not mean a few more might go off.
At least he used the proper verses, those written to us by our apostle (Rom. 11:13 KJV)and not something written to the nation of Israel.
War in scripture was to be conducted quickly and with overwhelming force to assure absolute victory, which is NOT what we have been fumbling around doing in the world since WW2.
Ironically, that was o ur last constitutionally declared “war”.

#12 Comment By Davebo On August 9, 2017 @ 10:46 pm

JonF

“Re: A catastrophe for humanity would be a nuke detonating in space over the US causing EMP.”

Will the EMP myth ever die? Admittedly, there have been a lot of outright lies about it but honestly, the facts are out there.

#13 Comment By Tom D On August 9, 2017 @ 11:09 pm

This comment coming from Jeffress is absolutely no surprise at all. After all, this is the pastor who makes a living preaching against Mormons and Muslims while cozying up to the guy who has unrepetantly broke half of the Ten Commandments.

Needless to say, I don’t have a lot of respect for Jeffress when it comes to matters of morality or spirituality.

#14 Comment By EngineerScotty On August 10, 2017 @ 12:30 pm

Let’s hope it will be long before the liberal interventionists, Never Trumpers, McCainics, neocons and Hillary Clinton supporters who want civilization-ending nuclear war with Russia over the Baltic states and Ukraine return to power.

For Pete’s sake. Can we PLEASE dispense with this utter horsesh!t?

Nobody on the Democratic side wants “civilization-ending nuclear war with Russia”, over any issue. Nor, do I expect, does Senator McCain–despite being far too hawkish for my tastes, he’s not insane.

Speaking for myself, I view Russia as an adversary–Putin wants to protect and expand his sphere of influence, the US wants to protect and expand its sphere, as does China and the other powers of the world.

But I certainly don’t view Russia as an enemy, nor want to see it destroyed. I have mixed feelings on issues like the Ukraine (my paternal grandmother was Ukrainian)–I don’t want nuclear war (or any other sort) with Russia over it, and think the idea of expanding NATO there to be foolish. OTOH, there are a lot of Ukranians, particularly in the Western half of the country, that thoroughly resent Russian imperialism. I know lots of other people, from various Baltic states that were SSRs under the old Soviet Union (and Russian vassals at various points prior to that), who likewise want no part of Mother Russia and are terrified of Putin.

And as for Vlad himself–he’s a gangster and a rather nasty autocrat. He’s mostly Russia’s problem, except when he’s not.

But please–lets dispense with the notion that the DC establishment wants nothing more than a nuclear exchange with Russia. Writing that sort of asinine nonsense makes you look like you’re doing so from a bunker in St. Petersburg, and no I don’t mean the one in Florida.

#15 Comment By EngineerScotty On August 10, 2017 @ 12:42 pm

But the problem is that China doesn’t want NK’s government overthrown because they don’t want the refugees flooding into their country and they don’t want the US military moving up to their border, which they didn’t want during the Korean War either.

I’ve often wondered if the endgame is this:

1) China invades NK (and/or uses its intelligence assets–I’m certain it has better “connections” in north Korea than does the US, for obvious reasons), takes out the Kim clan, and sets up a new regime, friendly to Beijing, but one which behaves rationally and no longer possesses nuclear weaponry.

2) US withdraws a significant part of its military assets from South Korea (in particular the strategic elements–China doesn’t like having US bases so close to its border). A defensive “tripwire” force–no threat to invade anybody, but there to deter attempts to attack the South (even if symbolically) gets to remain.

3) Likewise, China–after securing the North (possibly with international assistance), removes most of it’s troops therefrom.

4) Both powers agree to leave the Korean Peninsula alone, and to further withdraw if requested by the respective governments.

This might be what China wants–a US withdrawal from South Korea. Having US strategic bombers parked an hours flight time from Beijing, even if not armed with nukes, can’t make the Chinese happy.

Neocons might not like that deal, but the geopolitical world order has changed.

#16 Comment By JonF On August 10, 2017 @ 12:46 pm

Re: Will the EMP myth ever die? Admittedly, there have been a lot of outright lies about it but honestly, the facts are out there.

DAvebo,
Are you agreeing with me, since I was pointing out the exagerrations in the original poster’s piece?

#17 Comment By JonF On August 10, 2017 @ 12:50 pm

Re: Bible believers that actually read their bibles (and believe the verses) will know that there will be no nuclear holocaust that occurs before the Lord Jesus Christ returns to set up his millennial kingdom on earth.

There is nothing in the Bible that references nuclear war in any way. We are told “there will be wars and rumors of wars” and nothing says some of those could not involve nuclear weapons (as WWII already did).
Terrible disasters with horrifying death tolls certainly can happen before the Parousia, else we are at some loss to explain the Black Death.

#18 Comment By Dennis Crane On August 10, 2017 @ 8:07 pm

“I suspect there are zero evangelical pastors in North Korea encouraging their country’s leader to start a nuclear war.”

Someone should tell Mr. Carter that there are zero evangelical pastors in North Korea — at least, ones who aren’t imprisoned by the government.

[NFR: He knows that. He’s making a point ironically. — RD]

#19 Comment By M_Young On August 10, 2017 @ 8:37 pm

If Trump truly wants to make America great again, he’ll bring back the nuclear bazooka.

#20 Comment By Charles Garner On August 10, 2017 @ 11:29 pm

Before you even get to their threats to other countries, North Korea is an abomination to anyone who cares at all for how governments treat their own people. And those with power to make the world a better place also have a responsibility to God to wisely do what they can. Cleaning out the abscess that is N. Korea might or might not be a disaster, depending on how its done. But those who say that we shouldn’t consider it are morally deficient.

[NFR: Come on, *really*? There is no more evil government on earth than North Korea’s. But there is no way that the NK regime can be removed without a catastrophic loss of life. Saddam Hussein’s government was also evil. We removed it … and unleashed worse evils. If a decision to launch a war to dislodge the NK government is taken, it should only be because it poses an existential threat to us. — RD]

#21 Comment By Siarlys Jenkins On August 11, 2017 @ 1:10 pm

Scotty has an excellent solution for the Korean peninsula. I hope the current Chinese leadership are reading this blog.

As for Hillary and the Neo-Cons advocating nuclear war with Russia… no, they haven’t, but, they do advocate interventionist policies that run a risk of escalating confrontation that could lead to a nuclear exchange. One of the problems dealing with superpowers in their own backyard is, they have ways to retaliate. Are we really read to go to war over Estonia, much as we might sympathize with the people who live there?

#22 Comment By HMark On August 14, 2017 @ 9:37 am

This reflect a cavalier attitude to what “war” really means – its privations and destruction, how it reduces humans to an animal state. There is a time for war but not often. The war champions should not forget that the other guy gets a choice to and he is smart and innovative too in his destructive capacity. Just because one has super-weapons never means that they can not be countered by a creative opponent. We only need look to the Vietnam War, Iraq, Syria and now Afghanistan to see this. Finally, this man seems to forget that it is easier to start a war than end it. The other guy may not agree with starting it but he has to agree to stop it. Mr. Jefferies, you speak not wisdom.