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Trump Embraces the Culture War

To attend the Indianapolis Colts game where the number of the legendary Peyton Manning was to be retired, Vice President Mike Pence, a former governor of Indiana, flew back from Las Vegas.

With him in the stadium was his wife Karen. In honor of Manning, she wore a No. 18 jersey as “The Star Spangled Banner” began.

The Pences stood, hands over hearts. A dozen San Francisco 49ers took a knee. When the national anthem ended, Pence walked out. His limousine took him back to the airport to fly to LA.

“A stunt! That plane trip cost taxpayers $250,000,” wailed a media that was rarely critical of Michelle Obama’s million-dollar junkets with Sasha and Malia.

The president took credit for Pence’s walkout, tweeting, “I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled.”

Pence’s statement: “I left today’s Colts game because President Trump and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.”

As Pence had left his press pool in the motorcade, and said he might not be too long, the walkout may not have been entirely spontaneous. But the game had been on Pence’s calendar for weeks.

What does this episode tell us?

In the culture wars, Trump has rejected compromise or capitulation and decided to defend the ground on which his most loyal folks stand.

Example: While The Washington Post was reporting Monday that Austin, Seattle, San Francisco, and Denver had now joined Los Angeles in replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous People’s Day, Trump issued a Columbus Day proclamation of bristling defiance.

“Five hundred and twenty-five years ago, Christopher Columbus completed an ambitious and daring voyage across the Atlantic Ocean to the Americas. … a remarkable and then-unparalleled feat that helped launch the age of exploration and discovery. The permanent arrival of Europeans to the Americas was a transformative event that … changed the course of human history and set the stage for the development of our great Nation.”

Columbus, said Trump, was a “skilled navigator and man of faith, whose courageous feat brought together continents and has inspired countless others to pursue their dreams and convictions — even in the face of extreme doubt and tremendous adversity.”

The Admiral of the Ocean Sea “was a native of the City of Genoa, in present day Italy, and represents the rich history of important Italian American contributions to our great Nation. … Italy is a strong ally and a valued partner,” said Trump.

His proclamation failed to mention indigenous peoples.

How did CNN receive it? Not at all well.

“Trump’s Praise of Columbus Omits Dark History,” ran the CNN headline. Lede sentence: “Never mind the disease and slavery wrought by Christopher Columbus’ voyage — or the fact that he didn’t actually ‘discover’ the New World.”

Trump’s proclamation closed a week in which he rolled back the Obamacare mandate requiring employers and institutions, against their religious beliefs, to provide contraceptives and abortion-inducing pills to employees.

Religious groups cheered. The ACLU fumed. The in-your-face defiance of the dictates of political correctness has solidified Trump’s base behind him.

And Americans are coming to accept our new reality: On the essentials of nationhood — ancestry, morality, faith, culture, history, heroes — we really are no longer one nation and one people.

All weekend, viewers of cable TV were treated to self-righteous wailing from the acolytes of Colin Kaepernick, patron saint of the 49ers, that “taking the knee” to protest racism and racist cops is a most admirable exercise of the First Amendment right to protest.

What Trump’s folks are saying in response is this:

“You may have a First Amendment right to disrespect our flag, or even to burn it, but you have no right to make us listen to you, or respect you, or buy tickets to your games, or watch you on Sunday.”

And with shrinking audiences watching NFL games, declining attendance, and advertisers beginning to bail, the NFL appears belatedly to be getting the message.

Jerry Jones, owner of one of the most valuable franchises in the league, has told players that anyone who does not show respect for the flag during the national anthem does not play that day for the Dallas Cowboys.

“President Trump has a duty to unite us, not divide us” is the mantra of our elites. Yet since the ’60s, it is these elites who have been imposing the social, moral, and cultural revolution the American people never voted for and which has by now divided us irretrievably.

Call them “deplorables” if you will, but Trump does seem to relish going out to defend the views, values, and beliefs of the people who put him where he is. He does not recoil from political conflict.

People who stand by you in a fight are not all that common in politics. When Trump exhibits this quality, he receives in reciprocity the kind of loyalty even his enemies concede he has.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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#1 Comment By Whine Merchant On October 9, 2017 @ 11:24 pm

Sorry, but this is pure distraction from the true nature of Trump and his base. He was elected because he punches back and punches hard, even if it take alternate facts to do it.

His fans [TV performers have fans, politicians have supporters] are not Conservatives with well-founded and reasoned Values – they are reactionaries who fear change, hate ‘the other’ for bringing change, and yearn for a mythical world of pre-Civil Rights black & white 1950s television.

Thank you –

#2 Comment By Eric On October 10, 2017 @ 12:27 am

Yes, because rallying one’s base is such a unique presidential virtue…. Pat, I’ll give you credit for being skilled at grasping at straws.

#3 Comment By KevinS On October 10, 2017 @ 1:44 am

What it tells us it that he is going to feed his base a diet of cultural resentment while he gives away the candy store to his Wall Street buddies like Mnuchin and Cohn…and his base will eat it up! And Pat will cheer DJT on….

#4 Comment By No Hope On October 10, 2017 @ 1:51 am

Pat,
Trump’s tax and healthcare plans are unconscionable. A total betrayal of the many working class people that put him in office. This was a manufactured controversy to agitate his base, many of whom have no idea what he is trying to do to them. Pat, like you, I voted for trump . A vote that I now regret.
Come on Pat, you’re better than that, at least I think so.

#5 Comment By John Roche On October 10, 2017 @ 2:39 am

Culture wars uber alles. Buchanan has said many true things over a long career but his full throated defense of the infantile Trump has essentially ruined his credibility. Pat, this man has absolutely zero character and has sold out every issue and backer he has had in his professional life outside of his family. This is not the middle american revolution you were waiting for. It is a reign of indecency and cravenness with nary a speck of nobility or even humanity at times.

#6 Comment By JEinCA On October 10, 2017 @ 3:47 am

That’s all good and well until at the urging of the neocons on the behest of Israel, Trump drags the nation into a potentially catastrophic war with Syria, Iran or North Korea all three of which could spark an armed confrontation with nuclear armed superpowers Russia and China. We meant well Pat. We gave it our best because we knew where a Hillary Clinton presidency would lead but the time has come to call Trump what he is which is another neocon puppet who puts Israel first.

#7 Comment By libertarian jerry On October 10, 2017 @ 4:11 am

The Elitists and Globalist megalomaniacs who want to rule the world have implemented a “divide and conquer” tactic to pit one group of Americans against another in order to cause as much damage as possible to the unity of the American republic. With the help of the Main Stream Media the main result of this divide and conquer tactic is to take the eyes of the American people off of the real problem of the coming economic catastrophe that is about to befall America. America after years of endless wars and an unsustainable welfare state is about to collapse economically. America is fiscally bankrupt. When a majority of the American people can no longer support their Middle Class lifestyle they can always rally around side issues as exemplified in the so called “Cultural Wars.” In the meanwhile America will fall into the status of a Banana Republic.

#8 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 10, 2017 @ 6:21 am

What surprises me is that the NFL was unable to see the eventual result from the very beginning. The majority of people visiting sports events (in America and in any other country) are “deplorables”. Even when it comes to “elite” sports like tennis or Formula 1 racing. I wonder what kind of blockhead should one be not to understand that it gonna be a self-inflicted wound. Makes one long for the times when there were many intellectual people among those arrogant and self-righteous, because today’s self-righteousness can sport a scarcity of mind that rivals that of a severe mental retardation.

#9 Comment By Rabiner On October 10, 2017 @ 7:39 am

Trump has more animosity for black football players who kneel than white supremacists who run over protesters with a car. We know the culture war he’s playing with.

#10 Comment By collin On October 10, 2017 @ 8:57 am

Of course, I think a lot people are getting immune to Trump’s actions and stunts and rather have him focus on the job. Like doing everything he can for Puerto Rico or better understand the Iran deal. Or work with Congress on Healthcare that could improve on Obamacare. Or undercutting his cabinet on any NK endeavors. Or maybe simply put his phone on mute.

Frankly, I bet 80% of American really don’t care if players kneel during the National Anthem.

#11 Comment By mrscracker On October 10, 2017 @ 9:25 am

Maybe I’m the only one, but I think Mr. Pence did the right thing. God bless him for that.

#12 Comment By Joe the Plutocrat On October 10, 2017 @ 9:40 am

it’s lock step with his “middle class miracle” of a tax plan. he in “form” it’s about all Americans, especially “hard working” Americans, but in reality, only “1 tenth of 1 percent” have actual skin in the game (metaphorically speaking, of course). Trump panders to his “deplorable” base when venting about the Constitution, rule of law, etc.; but rewards Wall Street and DC swamp denizens when it comes to actual domestic and foreign policy. to paraphrase a late 70’s culture war veteran (albeit from across the pond, but now a naturalized American citizen) named John “Johnny Rotten” Lydon, you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

#13 Comment By mrscracker On October 10, 2017 @ 10:16 am

Alex (the one that likes Ike) says:

What surprises me is that the NFL was unable to see the eventual result from the very beginning. The majority of people visiting sports events (in America and in any other country) are “deplorables”.”
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I think the NFL is out of touch with their base in the same way the GOP mainstream was. And it’s going to cost them unless they figure it out soon.

#14 Comment By Dave Skerry On October 10, 2017 @ 10:34 am

It’s striking to note the differences in the manner in which our President and the Pope approach their roles. The President attempts to stroke dissention while the Pope urges his flock to work together on the things that unite them rather than the things that divide them. Needless to say I can’t understand how dissention will make us great again.It’s more likely to make us a house divided against itself —-again.

#15 Comment By Positivethinker On October 10, 2017 @ 10:52 am

Are petty actions and stunts only allowed by the left? The right is supposed to ‘be above’ it and just nod and accept when its from the ‘other’ side?

#16 Comment By Argon On October 10, 2017 @ 11:37 am

Whine Merchant: “His fans [TV performers have fans, politicians have supporters] are not Conservatives with well-founded and reasoned Values – they are reactionaries who fear change, hate ‘the other’ for bringing change, and yearn for a mythical world of pre-Civil Rights black & white 1950s television.”

That’s a fair characterization of the GOP base, or at least those who turn out in their primaries. It’s been that way for some time now.

Is it “Conservative”? That’s like saying “No true Scotsman would…”

#17 Comment By Jon S On October 10, 2017 @ 12:18 pm

Well we may not get the great healthcare system, industries moving back and international peace that we voted for, but by God we’ll make sure cops can shoot unarmed black folks with impunity!

And, really, what priority here anyway?

#18 Comment By Phil On October 10, 2017 @ 12:25 pm

Yup, he’s fanning the flames of the culture war with his well refined racist tweets and nauseating self congratulations. The man is a one person wrecking ball of America’s purpose and true progressive morality. He lacks any real morality of his own, is a compulsive liar and cheat, and frankly not all that bright, and of course his foot stomping toddler behavior. So, sure if you want to destroy a nation he’s probably your guy. All nations at some point fail…but there is little question in my mind that he is accelerating the process here. And you’re correct: we are no longer one nation. We’ve split into brutish bickering tribes….

#19 Comment By Futuro Dellanazione On October 10, 2017 @ 12:53 pm

What the NFL, Trump and the media-addicted commenters who always show up down here all fail to understand is this: the reason this country is where it is right now (and is going where it is going) is because the people who actually pay attention to the culture war on EITHER side of any issue are the minority. The lower-case “m” kind. Nobody who has a job and a life cares what NFL players do. They don’t care what Stephen Colbert says. They don’t care or know what Trump said about Christopher Columbus and they don’t celebrate it. They don’t know or care why Christopher Columbus or Robert E. Lee statues bother liberals. They’re busy working and staying alive, not working themselves into lathers over some trivial crap. The bigger problem is that the same kind of idiots who wear “MAGA” hats or “pink pussy” hats do all the voting. And the BIGGEST problem is that the fact that the fanboys are doing all the voting and talking makes decent people less and less interested.

#20 Comment By Scott in MD On October 10, 2017 @ 1:42 pm

“I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.”

Since no-one did that at the Colts game, why’d you leave?

#21 Comment By One Guy On October 10, 2017 @ 2:32 pm

“A stunt! That plane trip cost taxpayers $250,000,” wailed a media that was rarely critical of Michelle Obama’s million-dollar junkets with Sasha and Malia.”

Whataboutism at its finest. The old Soviets would be proud.

#22 Comment By cdugga On October 10, 2017 @ 2:43 pm

I do not really see how the don could successfully embarrass any particular person, but I do see him embarrassing the nation. Oh, embrace. Nevermind.

#23 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 10, 2017 @ 2:54 pm

Whine Merchant,

Joe wants to change his lawn by making it a nuclear disposal site. His neighbors kind of dislike the idea. Is their hatred of this change irrational?

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libertarian jerry,

I share many of your concerns, but want to note that America cannot become a banana republic under any scenario. On the same reason why Russia didn’t after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Too big, too well armed, too rich history.

I know it’s a cold comfort to people losing their jobs and their usual way of life, but I think it needs to be mentioned.

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Rabiner,

Trump has more animosity for black football players who kneel than white supremacists who run over protesters with a car. We know the culture war he’s playing with.

Evidence? You’re welcome to carry out a comparative linguistic analysis of his speeches so that we were able to collate the degrees of animosity in each case.

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mrscracker,

I think the NFL is out of touch with their base in the same way the GOP mainstream was. And it’s going to cost them unless they figure it out soon.

Yes. And, unlike the GOP mainstream, they ain’t got that much of a political airbag.

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Jon S,

Well we may not get the great healthcare system, industries moving back and international peace that we voted for, but by God we’ll make sure cops can shoot unarmed black folks with impunity!

And, really, what priority here anyway?

Any evidence that cops shoot unarmed blacks more often than unarmed whites, Asians or whomever else?

What does it have to do with the events around the NFL no matter your ability to find such an evidence is anybody’s guess.

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Phil,

his well refined racist tweets

Cite at least one.

He lacks any real morality of his own, is a compulsive liar and cheat, and frankly not all that bright, and of course his foot stomping toddler behavior.

Multiply all this by 2, and you’ve got Hillary Clinton.

Oh, I forgot. To get Hillary Clinton you also need that person to watch the violent death of an old man in the hands of a savage crowd with a pure, childish bloodlust of a five-year-old girl dismembering a beetle who somehow ended up in the body of a grown-up woman.

#24 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 10, 2017 @ 3:03 pm

[Whispering] Gaddafi! I was talking about Gaddafi im my last sentence.

#25 Comment By Neal Standen On October 10, 2017 @ 3:25 pm

Pat, I used to watch you on the McLaughlin report and although mostly disagreeing with your conservative opinions thought of you as a rational and principled individual. What happened? How can you support a president who lies at every turn and takes a perverse and child-like pleasure in hitting back at every tiny criticism using belittling nicknames for his colleagues in the Cabinet and Congress. The man is mentally diseased and if you consider him to be the emperor, you should have recognized by now that he has no clothes.

#26 Comment By Saad On October 10, 2017 @ 3:29 pm

‘patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel’ Samuel Johnson ‘1775

#27 Comment By One Guy On October 10, 2017 @ 4:12 pm

“Multiply all this by 2, and you’ve got Hillary Clinton.”

Whataboutism at its almost finest! Hillary Clinton isn’t president. Let’s talk about the president, shall we? Unless your only point is to distract, even while blaming others for not giving enough evidence.

#28 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 10, 2017 @ 4:20 pm

One Guy,

Whataboutism at its finest.

… as a response to countless whataboutisms being regularly spouted by progressives. I would say “when in Rome…”, but don’t want to offend our great cultural ancestors by comparing them to progs.

#29 Comment By One Guy On October 10, 2017 @ 5:18 pm

“… as a response to countless whataboutisms being regularly spouted by progressives.”

I like to think I’m better than progressives, but you are free to set your own personal bar as low as you see fit.

I’m a Conservative in part because I want to believe Conservatives are better. And I don’t spout Whataboutisms to combat Whataboutisms.

#30 Comment By Mac Hall On October 10, 2017 @ 8:27 pm

What Trump relishes is how easy it is to distract the people who supported him with culture war red meat while he devotes himself to governing for the benefit of himself and the ‘swamp’ he promised to drain.

Trump and pals will pocket billions from his tax plan while you save 1%..but at least he stood up for our flag against those NFL players!

#31 Comment By The Dean On October 10, 2017 @ 9:30 pm

Wow, it looks like the liberals have broached the American Conservative firewall. I read the same article and I agree completely with Mr. Buchanan. Trump is rough around the edges, inarticulate and can be petty and childish in his remarks. His strategies are unconventional but his goals are conservative. Bring back manufacturing, stop illegal immigration and build a southern wall, put America first not a globalist driven philosophy. I am comfortable with all of that but not his abrasive nature and semi-narcissistic disposition.

I have to admit, I like a street fighter and a man that picks a fight with the hypocritical media, Hollywood blowhards and self righteous overpaid professional athletes.

#32 Comment By EliteCommInc. On October 10, 2017 @ 9:41 pm

It is often said people like myself get used. All I can say is the football issue is hardly a place of grave concern given players are entitled to act on conscience. It takes a good deal to risk even a base salary in professional sports, which says something about their convictions. The kneeling in my view does not reflect a war on country, but a message that simply says,

“The country has some work to do on a particular issue.”

I find rather tawdry and thin fare that there’s any hoopla about a protest concerning injustice and not a peep from anyone in any office or the public when professional athletes did not risk to serve country. Now there were good reasons to challenge the issue of Iraq, but most professionals never voiced such opposition.

That was the year I stopped watching professional sports, in protest, despite believing, Iraq was nonsense and Afghanistan was barely this side of nonsense for invasion.

While I think we stand united as citizens, I think the current executive is on a mighty thin thread stoking “color wars” based on the protest. As is public opinion all ion a faux huff.

I might be incorrect in this assessment but both Iraq and Afghanistan, have done far more damage than any african american in the nation’s history, including those who are demonstrating protest against what they believe to be blatant injustices. On the loyalty score card — despite my support this executive is treading on dangerous ground.

Now I voted for this president. And I voted for very specific reasons. I also expressed my views on his clear attitudes when it comes to color relations. By what we generally think of as racist, he doesn’t come close. But it was clear during the campaign that he held some rather common beliefs held by most of the country when it comes to color. It gets revealed now and then. But there are bigger questions and that is why I voted for him.

Domestic economy issues, foreign trade issues, regime change by use of force concerns and immigration. All I can do is sigh and hold my head on these cultural issues. Because anyone that thinks the sanctity of marriage as to legal protection includes two people of the same sex isn’t going to reflect my cultural. spiritual or legal understanding of the constitution, not by a long shot. He is not going to be able to convince the country to round up athletes in protest and have them shot or fired in my view.

Curious that the issue of why see,ms lost in all this. Why the Players are taking a knee or sitting. I am thinking about Curt Flood who took on the reserve clause all by himself. And stood his ground by giving an outstanding career. The reserve claus is now gone and what I understand of the play — baseball has actually improved fairness s in the sport overall.

I have no idea if the players who sit, kneel or stand in protest will have any impact. As with Mr Flood they may not see it until years after they stop playing.

But if the president of the US doesn’t have more important issues on his plate than professionals voicing their political opinions, I would question his priorities. I certainly don’t believe he is shallow enough to use serious matters concerning blacks to leverage against his popularity. I certainly hope he has more integrity than that.

As for the public . . . they are entitled top their opinion. I would ask them their outrage about Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and the Ukraine — all of which remain in play as threats to needless US use of force — Korea and Iran. Should we decide to head to war — football won’t matter much. But the choice will have been made again as in 2002 milk over meat in a vain attempt to avoid dealing with ourselves.

Though I would readily agree that illegal immigrants will flying the US flag just as they did in 2002 — as they siphon US dollars and jobs from her citizens.

#33 Comment By Firefighter On October 10, 2017 @ 10:42 pm

Pat, I voted for you in the Republican primary’s in the 90s and in the General election of 2000.
I am now ashamed of those votes.

Tillerson is right, Trump is unquestionably a Moron.

Your continued support for him makes your intelligence suspect as well.

#34 Comment By anonymous On October 11, 2017 @ 12:56 am

Donald Trump is your true heir, Pat.

#35 Comment By GaryH On October 11, 2017 @ 6:42 am

This is not one nation in any meaningful sense. The Left is increasingly Stalinist at times, and Trotskyite at others, always with a huge dose of Fanonism.

And that is the reason that if there is not a peaceful separation into at least 2 nations, there will be civil war. The Left’s war efforts will be directed by the moral heirs of Robespierre who will be thrilled to slaughter as many Deplorables as possible in order to have the power to erect an American Stasi.

#36 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 11, 2017 @ 11:06 am

Saad,

‘patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel’ Samuel Johnson ‘1775

Then why the countries that abandon it fail so often?

One Guy,

Whataboutism at its almost finest!

That’s freakin’ hilarious (no pun intended). I was actually answering your empty and spiteful remark about Mr. Buchanan’s words, and it turns out that I also answered the one about my own words even before I read it. Just wonder whether you’re so predictable due to an ignorance, an intellectual sloth or a despair that befell you when you suddenly understood that all of your culture war “victories” had turned out to be ephemeral and illusory.

Whataboutism at its almost finest! Hillary Clinton isn’t president.

Yes, because American people are no fools, and they understood that Trump, with all of his flaws, is the lesser of two evils.

Let’s talk about the president, shall we?

Let’s talk about a secretary of state who hijacked the previous president’s foreign policy and caused a global disaster that resulted in several major regional conflicts around the planet and a violent death of a high-ranking American diplomat in the hands of yet another savage crowd (or were they the same barbarians that had lynched Gaddafi) and then decided to become a president as if nothing had happened? Still surprised that people preferred a man without a foreign policy experience to a guaranteed catastrophe?

Fine. Let’s talk about Trump. As of yet, the only war he has started is the war between his and Lil’ Kimmy’s mouths. So, unless you claim that the danger of this stand-up comedy is on par with setting the world’s tinderbox also known as the Middle East on fire, Trump certainly turns out to be the lesser evil if at all.

Whataboutism at its almost finest! Hillary Clinton isn’t president. Let’s talk about the president, shall we? Unless your only point is to distract, even while blaming others for not giving enough evidence.

What kind of evidence do you require? You’re banned from search engines and cannot find the information about Libyan and Syrian civil wars and Ambassador Stevens’s – her direct subordinate’s – death?

#37 Comment By LouB On October 11, 2017 @ 2:55 pm

Interesting how this is the one rag that allows the opposition to spew unfiltered screeds with complete unfettered abandon. The folks who spit forth these diatribes know full well that personal attacks on the authors would never be tolerated by the free thinkers on the other side of the fence if the comment was aimed the other way. I’m sure that Mr. Buchanan’s skin is of a thicker nature than something these anemic darts can penetrate.

#38 Comment By bt On October 11, 2017 @ 3:08 pm

Trump’s base hates America. They don’t like what it is and what it is becoming. Pure and simple.

If you are looking for a president who will blow everything up, Trump is perfect. The more he wrecks things the happier the America-Hating Trump voters will be.

This is really what the GOP has been selling for the last 40 years, since Reagan. The idea that America will work better if we get rid of the government.

So the fact the Trump is a moron is not a problem. He can be a pussy-grabber and a moron and a crook and that’s just fine, as long as he gets the job done – demolition does not require a lot of smarts anyway. Making America Great Again by tearing it all down.

#39 Comment By IntelliWriter On October 11, 2017 @ 8:48 pm

Just as you can’t turn back the tide, you can’t unmake the past 50-100 years. Progress moves forward, maybe with some stumbles, and those who stand the most to lose will fight back, but lose they will. On the East Coast we’re told that we’re not real Americans, but we are. We go forward into the future, hoping for a more perfect union. Trumpers want to go back in time, which goes against the very grain of Americanism. So, go ahead Pat, stand still. We’ll walk right past you.

#40 Comment By jackiebass On October 12, 2017 @ 6:40 am

What a heap of garbage this piece is. I wonder what world Pat lives in. He needs to quit looking through his role colored glasses.

#41 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 12, 2017 @ 9:44 am

bt,

Trump’s base hates America.

Do them? It’s much more likely that those people who want America to be dragged into more unwinnable wars, have her economy crippled and become further indebted are the ones who hate her. And they are the base of Trump’s liberal opponents and their neocon twins.

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IntelliWriter,

Just as you can’t turn back the tide, you can’t unmake the past 50-100 years. Progress moves forward, maybe with some stumbles, and those who stand the most to lose will fight back, but lose they will. On the East Coast we’re told that we’re not real Americans, but we are. We go forward into the future, hoping for a more perfect union. Trumpers want to go back in time, which goes against the very grain of Americanism. So, go ahead Pat, stand still. We’ll walk right past you.

Oh yes. You’ve shown how you move forward the last year by having a former secretary of state lost against a man with no foreign policy experience and quite an extravagant personality. Your fancy progressive car must have some alternative gearbox if you call this “moving forward”.

#42 Comment By Alex (the one that likes Ike) On October 12, 2017 @ 12:38 pm

jackiebass,

I wonder what world Pat lives in.

Like anyone else, Pat lives in the world where teenagers (and, from the moral point of view, today most people under 35 (and, quite often, even over this age) fall under “teenagers” category) think themselves some “fearless” defenders of social justice without having earned a single dollar in their lives because all their expenses are covered by daddy’s and mommy’s money from their trust funds, while on their own these “embodiments of the progress” are so economically useless that they cannot even install an operating system on those computers they use to peddle their Jacobinism Lite.