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		<title>By: Mahagwa</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-27741</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahagwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 04:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am probably the least learned of the posters to this site, but I thank God for the internet.
It is enlightening to read about these things from opposing views...Truth is obtained by understanding both sides of the question.
I worked for a company that received tons of dollars for promoting this &quot;GREEN concept&quot; and energy company (utility) and I was in a senior position. I saw people at this company faithfully adhere to the dogma they were fed.
The sad thing is that americans have become so dumb and intellectually lazy that they accept anything they are fed, without question.... Has anyone ever investigated whether or not this hoax has any connection to the GLOBAL BANKING game? Is there anything that we the &#039;truth seekers&#039; can do?
My fear is that within the next few decades, with the continual dumbing of the population, these hucksters will have us living in caves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am probably the least learned of the posters to this site, but I thank God for the internet.<br />
It is enlightening to read about these things from opposing views&#8230;Truth is obtained by understanding both sides of the question.<br />
I worked for a company that received tons of dollars for promoting this &#8220;GREEN concept&#8221; and energy company (utility) and I was in a senior position. I saw people at this company faithfully adhere to the dogma they were fed.<br />
The sad thing is that americans have become so dumb and intellectually lazy that they accept anything they are fed, without question&#8230;. Has anyone ever investigated whether or not this hoax has any connection to the GLOBAL BANKING game? Is there anything that we the &#8216;truth seekers&#8217; can do?<br />
My fear is that within the next few decades, with the continual dumbing of the population, these hucksters will have us living in caves</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-13699</link>
		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not swayed by an article comprised of quotes that may or may not be taken out of context.</description>
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		<title>By: informed_and_punchy</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-12624</link>
		<dc:creator>informed_and_punchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t a hoax my intellectually challenged friends.  Humans are pumping all of the stored organic matter from the past millennia, burning them, and injecting the waste into the atmosphere.  This is not anything remotely close to a natural process of nature, and while the earth will absolutely still be there when the full effects of climate change are in play civilization as you know it certainly will not.  You can choose to ignore it, spread misinformation, but you will still continue to see those in the educated communities push to stop consumption of fossil fuels.  None of you would stand a chance in any real debate on the subject.  If you don&#039;t believe me then why not call up some of the leading minds on the subject of climate change (who you&#039;re certain are all conspiring to lie to the population of the world) and challenge them to a debate?  Why not choose to quit hiding behind your menial and insignificant blog?  I suspect I know the answer, and so do most educated people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a hoax my intellectually challenged friends.  Humans are pumping all of the stored organic matter from the past millennia, burning them, and injecting the waste into the atmosphere.  This is not anything remotely close to a natural process of nature, and while the earth will absolutely still be there when the full effects of climate change are in play civilization as you know it certainly will not.  You can choose to ignore it, spread misinformation, but you will still continue to see those in the educated communities push to stop consumption of fossil fuels.  None of you would stand a chance in any real debate on the subject.  If you don&#8217;t believe me then why not call up some of the leading minds on the subject of climate change (who you&#8217;re certain are all conspiring to lie to the population of the world) and challenge them to a debate?  Why not choose to quit hiding behind your menial and insignificant blog?  I suspect I know the answer, and so do most educated people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-12393</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for the lie is  that climate change is coming and theyre hiding it behind the chemtrails every day globally. This is what NASA announced they found in 1983 then lied about. This is what all the ancient calendars are telling us about. This is also what the Bible tells is the warning for the war of Armageddon which will see America destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO the day of the next false flag to invade Iran. News here: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for the lie is  that climate change is coming and theyre hiding it behind the chemtrails every day globally. This is what NASA announced they found in 1983 then lied about. This is what all the ancient calendars are telling us about. This is also what the Bible tells is the warning for the war of Armageddon which will see America destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO the day of the next false flag to invade Iran. News here: <a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews" rel="nofollow">http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob de Raadt</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-12385</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob de Raadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ultimate purpose of the &quot;global warming&quot; bandwagon crowd is basically the redistribution of wealth, as a &quot;new wave&quot; of socialism, after earlier efforts from the 1960&#039;s failed.  That is why &quot;Copenhagen&quot; resulted (or seems to have resulted) in some promises that prosperous countries like Canada would bail out the developing countries.  That this is done to our own detriment, is evident.
 
With the current very cold weather in the much of the northern hemisphere, (with e.g. 877 new snowfall records set last week in the USA) and record lows in Europe, perhaps some &quot;real science&quot; is needed, based on unbiased data and the lack of creating or promoting fear where it is not needed.  A perfect place to re-start our thinking would be God&#039;s promise that &quot;While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall not cease.&quot;  (Gen. 8:22).  
 
This all does not mean that stewardship of the natural and physical environment around us is not important.  It is important; in fact, I would suggest that those who believe the above text, can be the only real environmentalists.  Because this truth is not a hoax, it will be as valid in 2010 as it was in 2009 and has always been.  In this light, I would like to wish you and your readers a very prosperous New Year from Langley, British Columbia, Canada.  (Yes, when I read the names of Christine Stewart and Maurice Strong, I once again realized that Canadians have been duped.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate purpose of the &#8220;global warming&#8221; bandwagon crowd is basically the redistribution of wealth, as a &#8220;new wave&#8221; of socialism, after earlier efforts from the 1960&#8242;s failed.  That is why &#8220;Copenhagen&#8221; resulted (or seems to have resulted) in some promises that prosperous countries like Canada would bail out the developing countries.  That this is done to our own detriment, is evident.</p>
<p>With the current very cold weather in the much of the northern hemisphere, (with e.g. 877 new snowfall records set last week in the USA) and record lows in Europe, perhaps some &#8220;real science&#8221; is needed, based on unbiased data and the lack of creating or promoting fear where it is not needed.  A perfect place to re-start our thinking would be God&#8217;s promise that &#8220;While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall not cease.&#8221;  (Gen. 8:22).  </p>
<p>This all does not mean that stewardship of the natural and physical environment around us is not important.  It is important; in fact, I would suggest that those who believe the above text, can be the only real environmentalists.  Because this truth is not a hoax, it will be as valid in 2010 as it was in 2009 and has always been.  In this light, I would like to wish you and your readers a very prosperous New Year from Langley, British Columbia, Canada.  (Yes, when I read the names of Christine Stewart and Maurice Strong, I once again realized that Canadians have been duped.)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an idea the other night......what if this is all part of a plan to induce another ice age, which would effectively remove a huge number of people from this planet, which is one of their main goals, population reduction. What if we reduce our CO2 output and that causes the planet to cool too much bringing about another small ice age or worse, one that lasts a thousand years, which has happened in the past. 

 Its not too far fetched when you consider the evil people who run this planet and their agenda for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an idea the other night&#8230;&#8230;what if this is all part of a plan to induce another ice age, which would effectively remove a huge number of people from this planet, which is one of their main goals, population reduction. What if we reduce our CO2 output and that causes the planet to cool too much bringing about another small ice age or worse, one that lasts a thousand years, which has happened in the past. </p>
<p> Its not too far fetched when you consider the evil people who run this planet and their agenda for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Straus</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-12376</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira Straus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

I absolutely agree the Left uses this for its own purposes. But that is true of any issue that is left to the Left.

If the Right were pushing it, or piling onto it, it would figure out how to use it for opposite purposes. Like maintaining 1st World hegemony in the world, Pat Buchanan-type protectionism against outsourcing to reckless emitter countries like China, a carbon-inputs tariff.  (3rd World is 3.9 more &#039;emissions intensive&#039; than 1st World, that is, it emits 3.9 times as much per unit of GDP. An honest green reason to favor 1st World, particularly in matters of production. It&#039;s in consumption that we can be blamed.)

if both wings piled on, the two would cancel out. Maybe then we&#039;d get something close to objective, honest policy proposals for dealing with the matter. Including lots of research into technologies for producing artificial cooling or global air conditioning, and no more of the Western guilt payments or global equalization stuff. Equality is obviously harmful to ecology, equalization is like destruction of biodiversity and space for experimentation.

As it stands, the ground has been ceded to the Left, and as long as the Left is writing the script, the West is of course expected to end up holding the bag for all the costs.

best,
Ira</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I absolutely agree the Left uses this for its own purposes. But that is true of any issue that is left to the Left.</p>
<p>If the Right were pushing it, or piling onto it, it would figure out how to use it for opposite purposes. Like maintaining 1st World hegemony in the world, Pat Buchanan-type protectionism against outsourcing to reckless emitter countries like China, a carbon-inputs tariff.  (3rd World is 3.9 more &#8216;emissions intensive&#8217; than 1st World, that is, it emits 3.9 times as much per unit of GDP. An honest green reason to favor 1st World, particularly in matters of production. It&#8217;s in consumption that we can be blamed.)</p>
<p>if both wings piled on, the two would cancel out. Maybe then we&#8217;d get something close to objective, honest policy proposals for dealing with the matter. Including lots of research into technologies for producing artificial cooling or global air conditioning, and no more of the Western guilt payments or global equalization stuff. Equality is obviously harmful to ecology, equalization is like destruction of biodiversity and space for experimentation.</p>
<p>As it stands, the ground has been ceded to the Left, and as long as the Left is writing the script, the West is of course expected to end up holding the bag for all the costs.</p>
<p>best,<br />
Ira</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Currie</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/12/12/why-the-global-warming-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-12338</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The evidence that global warming/climate change is happening, and that CO2 produced by the burning of fossil fuels is a significant cause, is overwhelming. The hacked/stolen e-mails were taken out of context and twisted into a conspiracy by the well-funded deniosphere. The whole anti-global warming movement in this country has become an assault on reason and science. The ideologues who work these sites (Sen. Inhofe, James Morano, Monckton, et al), blinded by their ideology, have no interest in truth, and use psuedo-science and junk science to further their cause, intentionally misleading and sowing confusion. For only one end; to delay, delay, delay, any real steps to reducing our nation&#039;s CO2 output. In effect, they have put short term profits of the fossil fuel industry ahead of the long-term future of the nation. The longer we delay, the more likely draconian solutions become our only recourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The evidence that global warming/climate change is happening, and that CO2 produced by the burning of fossil fuels is a significant cause, is overwhelming. The hacked/stolen e-mails were taken out of context and twisted into a conspiracy by the well-funded deniosphere. The whole anti-global warming movement in this country has become an assault on reason and science. The ideologues who work these sites (Sen. Inhofe, James Morano, Monckton, et al), blinded by their ideology, have no interest in truth, and use psuedo-science and junk science to further their cause, intentionally misleading and sowing confusion. For only one end; to delay, delay, delay, any real steps to reducing our nation&#8217;s CO2 output. In effect, they have put short term profits of the fossil fuel industry ahead of the long-term future of the nation. The longer we delay, the more likely draconian solutions become our only recourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Ramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Ramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another factor in the globalwarming debate: very often, global warming is used as an excuse for waging economic warfare against oil-rich Arab and Muslim countries.  

Nearly any article Thomas Friedman publishes about the subject will include a reference to the advantages of energy independence from Muslim countries. His articles will usually include a call for non-fossil fuels and  50-cent-per-gallon tax increases on gasoline, a policy that has little effect on Friedman personally as he is an upper income America living in a city with excellent mass transportation.  I also notice that he never once addressed global warming when promoting the Iraq war even though such a war woud no doubt result in an increased use of fossil fuels. 

Rather, this policy affects the rural poor most severely as they often lack access to public transportation, have lower average incomes, and must drive longer distances. 

I don&#039;t know whether the earth is warming or not--it does seem to be--but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that the policy elites are proposing solutions that disproportionately effect lower income Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another factor in the globalwarming debate: very often, global warming is used as an excuse for waging economic warfare against oil-rich Arab and Muslim countries.  </p>
<p>Nearly any article Thomas Friedman publishes about the subject will include a reference to the advantages of energy independence from Muslim countries. His articles will usually include a call for non-fossil fuels and  50-cent-per-gallon tax increases on gasoline, a policy that has little effect on Friedman personally as he is an upper income America living in a city with excellent mass transportation.  I also notice that he never once addressed global warming when promoting the Iraq war even though such a war woud no doubt result in an increased use of fossil fuels. </p>
<p>Rather, this policy affects the rural poor most severely as they often lack access to public transportation, have lower average incomes, and must drive longer distances. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether the earth is warming or not&#8211;it does seem to be&#8211;but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the policy elites are proposing solutions that disproportionately effect lower income Americans.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Why The Global Warming Hoax? &#171; Cmblake6&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A. Nonnie Muss</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Nonnie Muss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So scientists made up global warming (which is clearly supported by basic science-a fool could understand it) just to go to expensive dinners? *Gasp* That&#039;s makes just about as much sense as George W. Bush being allowed to become America&#039;s president! Twice!
When will radical conservatives understand that climate change is not a power play, but a genuine attempt to help our dying planet? I fear for our future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So scientists made up global warming (which is clearly supported by basic science-a fool could understand it) just to go to expensive dinners? *Gasp* That&#8217;s makes just about as much sense as George W. Bush being allowed to become America&#8217;s president! Twice!<br />
When will radical conservatives understand that climate change is not a power play, but a genuine attempt to help our dying planet? I fear for our future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Norris Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norris Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if global warming is true or not.  I tend to think that more scientist agree with it than scoff at it.  And that&#039;s probably where the debate should be conducted.  In the whelm of science.
Unless you are actively engaged in scientific research into global warming, your opinions are no better than Al Gore...another armchair climatologist.
If you have cancer you don&#039;t turn to blogger or politician like Gore or a pundit like Beck to diagnose and suggest a cure.
You turn to a doctor...and not just any doctor but an oncologist who specializes in the.  If 10 oncologist in different parts of the world say you have cancer and 1 oncologist says &quot;It&#039;s just in your head&quot;, who would you believe???
Of course you could conclude that oncologist around the world are just trying to generate work for themselves...so they are conspiring together to deliver bad news.  Is it possible??  Maybe but not likely

The debate on global warming isn&#039;t a political debate where if you are Republican  you think it&#039;s a Hoax  and if you are a DEMOCRATS believe its true.  That&#039;s a pretty stupid and silly position to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if global warming is true or not.  I tend to think that more scientist agree with it than scoff at it.  And that&#8217;s probably where the debate should be conducted.  In the whelm of science.<br />
Unless you are actively engaged in scientific research into global warming, your opinions are no better than Al Gore&#8230;another armchair climatologist.<br />
If you have cancer you don&#8217;t turn to blogger or politician like Gore or a pundit like Beck to diagnose and suggest a cure.<br />
You turn to a doctor&#8230;and not just any doctor but an oncologist who specializes in the.  If 10 oncologist in different parts of the world say you have cancer and 1 oncologist says &#8220;It&#8217;s just in your head&#8221;, who would you believe???<br />
Of course you could conclude that oncologist around the world are just trying to generate work for themselves&#8230;so they are conspiring together to deliver bad news.  Is it possible??  Maybe but not likely</p>
<p>The debate on global warming isn&#8217;t a political debate where if you are Republican  you think it&#8217;s a Hoax  and if you are a DEMOCRATS believe its true.  That&#8217;s a pretty stupid and silly position to take.</p>
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		<title>By: ginab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I consider myself conservative (family values, politics, etc.) I am NOT an opponent of global warming/climate change. I have lived in a far northern town in the US, and I&#039;ve seen gradually warming winters over the past several decades. Now for most people who hate cold weather that probably sounds like a boon; less snow, more time to play. Well, not if your job depends on cold weather like mine does; our family business needs the seasonal changes for its livelihood. As the climate warms where we are, we&#039;ve seen our salmon population decrease dramatically.  Changing water temperatures are driving the salmon away, and so goes our business. I wish conservatives would stop assuming that all of their adherents were alike; we aren&#039;t. I&#039;m fiscally conservative but more environmentally moderate since the environment has a big impact on my livelihood and income.  Maybe that&#039;s why some people move from conservativism to libertarianism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I consider myself conservative (family values, politics, etc.) I am NOT an opponent of global warming/climate change. I have lived in a far northern town in the US, and I&#8217;ve seen gradually warming winters over the past several decades. Now for most people who hate cold weather that probably sounds like a boon; less snow, more time to play. Well, not if your job depends on cold weather like mine does; our family business needs the seasonal changes for its livelihood. As the climate warms where we are, we&#8217;ve seen our salmon population decrease dramatically.  Changing water temperatures are driving the salmon away, and so goes our business. I wish conservatives would stop assuming that all of their adherents were alike; we aren&#8217;t. I&#8217;m fiscally conservative but more environmentally moderate since the environment has a big impact on my livelihood and income.  Maybe that&#8217;s why some people move from conservativism to libertarianism?</p>
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		<title>By: Science, Fraud, and Global Warming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science, Fraud, and Global Warming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why the Global Warming Hoax? [T]here were some real brains with other motives for promoting the lies. Extreme environmentalism has become the new socialism, an excuse for dictatorial rule to limit consumption and justify highly centralized government power “to save humanity.” Below is a list of quotes from leading leftists. There were brains behind it all, the old socialists looking for a new justification for government takeover of the economy, for a “planned” economy which they would plan and manage. Man-made global warming became the substitute agenda for Leftists who had been discredited by Reaganomics and the collapse of communism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why the Global Warming Hoax? [T]here were some real brains with other motives for promoting the lies. Extreme environmentalism has become the new socialism, an excuse for dictatorial rule to limit consumption and justify highly centralized government power “to save humanity.” Below is a list of quotes from leading leftists. There were brains behind it all, the old socialists looking for a new justification for government takeover of the economy, for a “planned” economy which they would plan and manage. Man-made global warming became the substitute agenda for Leftists who had been discredited by Reaganomics and the collapse of communism. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Oldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Oldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomB:

A semantic problem hinders our communication. The word &quot;science&quot; comes down to us from the Latin word &quot;scientia&quot; meaning &quot;demonstrable knowledge.&quot; In my remarks, I attach these semantics to the words &quot;science&quot; and &quot;scientific.&quot;

The philosopher of science Karl Popper translates &quot;demonstrable knowledge&quot; into logical form by stating that no model is &quot;scientific&quot; unless it is &quot;falsifiable.&quot; This signifies that every scientific model can be proved wrong by observations.

The requirement for falsifiability implies that there are models which are not scientific models. Among these, under Trenberth&#039;s testimony, are the IPCC&#039;s models. 
Trenberth&#039;s testimony is corroborated by the testimony of a reviewer of the IPCC&#039;s reports,Dr. Vincent Gray, in a posting on the Web.

In my postings on this blog, I&#039;ve sought to warn readers of a mistake that can be made in evaluating the arguments for and against regulation of carbon dioxide emissions. The mistake is to confuse a model built by scientists with a scientific model. By the semantics of &quot;scientific,&quot; a model is scientific if and only if it is falsifiable; whether or not it is built by people with scientific credentials is irrelevant to the issue.

Often, the argument is made that we should believe in the IPCC&#039;s models because a &quot;consensus&quot; of scientists express confidence in them. This is an example of an argument from authority. Under the methodology of science, though, argument from authority is illegitimate. Under the methodology of science, the only legitimate grounds for belief in a predictive  model are that this model has been repeatedly tested by observation of independent events and the predicted outcome has matched the observed one in every such event. According to Trenberth and Gray, though, the IPCC models do not make predictions. The conclusions follow that: a) the IPCC&#039;s models are not falsifiable and b) the IPCC&#039;s models are not scientific models. 

In the debate over regulation of carbon dioxide emissions, I observe virtually universal confusion of a model built by scientists with a scientific model. This confusion may lead us into a decision on policy that lacks scientific backing but that seems to journalists, businessmen, political leaders, environmentalists and ordinary citizens to possess scientific backing.

By the way, in stating that the IPCC&#039;s models do not make predictions, Dr. Trenberth is not deserving of censure but rather of praise, for he tells a truth and this truth may be contrary to his self-interest. Plenty of other individuals and organizations are deserving of censure. Among the latter is the IPCC.

According to Gray, he provided the IPCC with review comments in which he pointed out that the IPCC&#039;s models did not make predictions, hence were not falsifiable and could not be validated. &quot;Prediction&quot; is a statistical term which designates a proposition stating the outcome of a statistical event.&quot;Validation&quot; is a statistical term which signifies that a model has been repeatedly tested by observation of a number of independent statistical events and the predicted outcome has matched the measured one in every such event. Gray states that he raised the issue of how the IPCC&#039;s models could be tested.

According to Gray, the IPCC responded to his comments by changing the word &quot;prediction&quot; to the word &quot;projection,&quot; and the word &quot;validation&quot; to the word &quot;evaluation.&quot; The IPCC did not respond on the issue of how the IPCC&#039;s models could be tested. The words &quot;projection&quot; and &quot;evaluation&quot; are statistically meaningless in the sense of failing to identify how the associated models can be falsified through testing.

The most recent IPCC Summary for Policy Makers, dated in 2007, implies that policy should be based upon projections of the global average temperatures made by the IPCC&#039;s models. The Summary provides no warning to policy makers that a projection is not the equivalent of a prediction or that the models that make these projections are not scientific models because they cannot be validated. As the IPCC report makes it plain that these models were built by scientists, the content of the IPCC&#039;s report is highly conducive to misleading scientifically naive journalists, politicians and others to the false conclusion that science tells us that carbon dioxide emissions will lead to catastrophic global warming if these emissions are not regulated. Having once believed that the United Nations offered us the best hope for peace on Earth, I am disturbed and dismayed by this evidence of corruption in a UN agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomB:</p>
<p>A semantic problem hinders our communication. The word &#8220;science&#8221; comes down to us from the Latin word &#8220;scientia&#8221; meaning &#8220;demonstrable knowledge.&#8221; In my remarks, I attach these semantics to the words &#8220;science&#8221; and &#8220;scientific.&#8221;</p>
<p>The philosopher of science Karl Popper translates &#8220;demonstrable knowledge&#8221; into logical form by stating that no model is &#8220;scientific&#8221; unless it is &#8220;falsifiable.&#8221; This signifies that every scientific model can be proved wrong by observations.</p>
<p>The requirement for falsifiability implies that there are models which are not scientific models. Among these, under Trenberth&#8217;s testimony, are the IPCC&#8217;s models.<br />
Trenberth&#8217;s testimony is corroborated by the testimony of a reviewer of the IPCC&#8217;s reports,Dr. Vincent Gray, in a posting on the Web.</p>
<p>In my postings on this blog, I&#8217;ve sought to warn readers of a mistake that can be made in evaluating the arguments for and against regulation of carbon dioxide emissions. The mistake is to confuse a model built by scientists with a scientific model. By the semantics of &#8220;scientific,&#8221; a model is scientific if and only if it is falsifiable; whether or not it is built by people with scientific credentials is irrelevant to the issue.</p>
<p>Often, the argument is made that we should believe in the IPCC&#8217;s models because a &#8220;consensus&#8221; of scientists express confidence in them. This is an example of an argument from authority. Under the methodology of science, though, argument from authority is illegitimate. Under the methodology of science, the only legitimate grounds for belief in a predictive  model are that this model has been repeatedly tested by observation of independent events and the predicted outcome has matched the observed one in every such event. According to Trenberth and Gray, though, the IPCC models do not make predictions. The conclusions follow that: a) the IPCC&#8217;s models are not falsifiable and b) the IPCC&#8217;s models are not scientific models. </p>
<p>In the debate over regulation of carbon dioxide emissions, I observe virtually universal confusion of a model built by scientists with a scientific model. This confusion may lead us into a decision on policy that lacks scientific backing but that seems to journalists, businessmen, political leaders, environmentalists and ordinary citizens to possess scientific backing.</p>
<p>By the way, in stating that the IPCC&#8217;s models do not make predictions, Dr. Trenberth is not deserving of censure but rather of praise, for he tells a truth and this truth may be contrary to his self-interest. Plenty of other individuals and organizations are deserving of censure. Among the latter is the IPCC.</p>
<p>According to Gray, he provided the IPCC with review comments in which he pointed out that the IPCC&#8217;s models did not make predictions, hence were not falsifiable and could not be validated. &#8220;Prediction&#8221; is a statistical term which designates a proposition stating the outcome of a statistical event.&#8221;Validation&#8221; is a statistical term which signifies that a model has been repeatedly tested by observation of a number of independent statistical events and the predicted outcome has matched the measured one in every such event. Gray states that he raised the issue of how the IPCC&#8217;s models could be tested.</p>
<p>According to Gray, the IPCC responded to his comments by changing the word &#8220;prediction&#8221; to the word &#8220;projection,&#8221; and the word &#8220;validation&#8221; to the word &#8220;evaluation.&#8221; The IPCC did not respond on the issue of how the IPCC&#8217;s models could be tested. The words &#8220;projection&#8221; and &#8220;evaluation&#8221; are statistically meaningless in the sense of failing to identify how the associated models can be falsified through testing.</p>
<p>The most recent IPCC Summary for Policy Makers, dated in 2007, implies that policy should be based upon projections of the global average temperatures made by the IPCC&#8217;s models. The Summary provides no warning to policy makers that a projection is not the equivalent of a prediction or that the models that make these projections are not scientific models because they cannot be validated. As the IPCC report makes it plain that these models were built by scientists, the content of the IPCC&#8217;s report is highly conducive to misleading scientifically naive journalists, politicians and others to the false conclusion that science tells us that carbon dioxide emissions will lead to catastrophic global warming if these emissions are not regulated. Having once believed that the United Nations offered us the best hope for peace on Earth, I am disturbed and dismayed by this evidence of corruption in a UN agency.</p>
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