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		<title>By: Neat long-form division &#171; Ready Made Media Web Broadcast</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-16171</link>
		<dc:creator>Neat long-form division &#171; Ready Made Media Web Broadcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s interesting about the upcoming Indiana GOP primary on May 4 is how the three main candidates represent the three distinct factions I wrote about in the TAC post Division Bell. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The American Conservative &#187; Neat long-form division</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-16152</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Conservative &#187; Neat long-form division</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s interesting about the upcoming Indiana GOP primary on May 4 is how the three main candidates represent the three distinct factions I wrote about in the TAC post Division Bell. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is Sarah Palin almost as popular as President Obama? - E.D. Kain - American Tory - True/Slant</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11967</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Sarah Palin almost as popular as President Obama? - E.D. Kain - American Tory - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a catalyst of self-destruction for Conservative Inc. and the Republican establishment because she represents both sides of that internal struggle. In [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Barney Rebble</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11402</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Rebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Swartz I don&#039;t always agree with your posts, but we are on the exact same page today, insofar as your comments, at least.

Mr Tony J - I almost always disagree with nearly everything you say.  I see you use the liberal trick of &quot;...which means...&quot; then try to put words into my mouth with the intention of making me look ridiculous.  Those ridiculous words and thoughts were authored by you, not me.

Then you said, &quot;What else can it be?&quot;  Try this:  The left has gotten ahold of the media and convinced many that the majority of the US is LIB, and that there is no use trying.  Patently false.

The food companies have designed junk that perfectly appeals to the human appetite, and have bought the media to tell us that it is OK to be addicted (and to use christian sacred words as expletives, and that deviant lifestyles based on feeding our addictions are acceptable - and I&#039;m NOT talking about our god-given diversity, but rather lifestyles based on feeding addictions).

And like the Senate and the Congress, the American public has figured out how to vote itself a check.  An unlimited credit card that we expect our grandchildren to pay.

Is it any wonder that the NANNY-STATE hustlers have &quot;taken over&quot;, and are trying to exaggerate our tendency towards dependence, solidifying their power?  And they would have gotten away with it (and might yet), if it had not been for their impatient greed and arrogant corruption.

The bloggers at TAC would do well to remember the words of Ann Coulter:  &quot;Any organization that is not explicitly CONSERVATIVE will tend to become LIBERAL over time.&quot;

I call on &quot;conservatives&quot; to begin to look for what unites us, rather than exaggerate what divides us.  This serves two purposes.  We become a useful &quot;thinktank&quot; for conservatives, and, we cause the stealth sabateurs to stand out as the foreignors they are, and bring their dishonest intentions into sharp relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Swartz I don&#8217;t always agree with your posts, but we are on the exact same page today, insofar as your comments, at least.</p>
<p>Mr Tony J &#8211; I almost always disagree with nearly everything you say.  I see you use the liberal trick of &#8220;&#8230;which means&#8230;&#8221; then try to put words into my mouth with the intention of making me look ridiculous.  Those ridiculous words and thoughts were authored by you, not me.</p>
<p>Then you said, &#8220;What else can it be?&#8221;  Try this:  The left has gotten ahold of the media and convinced many that the majority of the US is LIB, and that there is no use trying.  Patently false.</p>
<p>The food companies have designed junk that perfectly appeals to the human appetite, and have bought the media to tell us that it is OK to be addicted (and to use christian sacred words as expletives, and that deviant lifestyles based on feeding our addictions are acceptable &#8211; and I&#8217;m NOT talking about our god-given diversity, but rather lifestyles based on feeding addictions).</p>
<p>And like the Senate and the Congress, the American public has figured out how to vote itself a check.  An unlimited credit card that we expect our grandchildren to pay.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder that the NANNY-STATE hustlers have &#8220;taken over&#8221;, and are trying to exaggerate our tendency towards dependence, solidifying their power?  And they would have gotten away with it (and might yet), if it had not been for their impatient greed and arrogant corruption.</p>
<p>The bloggers at TAC would do well to remember the words of Ann Coulter:  &#8220;Any organization that is not explicitly CONSERVATIVE will tend to become LIBERAL over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I call on &#8220;conservatives&#8221; to begin to look for what unites us, rather than exaggerate what divides us.  This serves two purposes.  We become a useful &#8220;thinktank&#8221; for conservatives, and, we cause the stealth sabateurs to stand out as the foreignors they are, and bring their dishonest intentions into sharp relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Inc. &#124; Republicans United.</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11376</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Inc. &#124; Republicans United.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from the Ron Paul worship, this article seems to sum up the Tea Party movement in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tony J</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11374</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney,

  You don&#039;t agree the post, therefore it&#039;s author must be a &#039;lib&#039;, which means he must want to divide conservatives, therefore you can safely ignore anything he says?

  I wonder why people have this idea in their heads that movement conservatives are driving the GOP into irrelevance? Must be a conspiracy, eh? What else could it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney,</p>
<p>  You don&#8217;t agree the post, therefore it&#8217;s author must be a &#8216;lib&#8217;, which means he must want to divide conservatives, therefore you can safely ignore anything he says?</p>
<p>  I wonder why people have this idea in their heads that movement conservatives are driving the GOP into irrelevance? Must be a conspiracy, eh? What else could it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Crunchy Con</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11369</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchy Con</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Conservative Inc. vs. the GOP...&lt;/strong&gt;

Writing in TAC, Sean Scallon describes the difference between Republican Party regulars and what he smartly describes as &quot;Conservative, Inc.&quot;. -- i.e., the conservative interest groups, talk radio and media. He says both sides are full of Potemkin vi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Conservative Inc. vs. the GOP&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Writing in TAC, Sean Scallon describes the difference between Republican Party regulars and what he smartly describes as &#8220;Conservative, Inc.&#8221;. &#8212; i.e., the conservative interest groups, talk radio and media. He says both sides are full of Potemkin vi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MattSwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11367</link>
		<dc:creator>MattSwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney,

I have a long-standing, irrevocable affection and love for my family, but if three other people steal their names and move into the house we kids grew up in, those new people are not going to be recipients of my love, to say the least.

Going further, if they then forcibly eject my family from said house and begin trampling on all the principles the four of us have always held dear, then they&#039;re going to see a very fierce side of my personality indeed.

As such, I can&#039;t muster up much affection for Bush, Cheney, McCain, et al. I learned a certain type of Conservatism/Libertarianism at the dinner table. Paul Harvey spoke of it, we saw the upstanding people around us epitomize it, and it synced up with what we knew of the Bible and the rules of Good Manners. Equality under the law, self-reliance, and civility were all part of the deal; this new thing that gets called conservative today is different, and toxic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney,</p>
<p>I have a long-standing, irrevocable affection and love for my family, but if three other people steal their names and move into the house we kids grew up in, those new people are not going to be recipients of my love, to say the least.</p>
<p>Going further, if they then forcibly eject my family from said house and begin trampling on all the principles the four of us have always held dear, then they&#8217;re going to see a very fierce side of my personality indeed.</p>
<p>As such, I can&#8217;t muster up much affection for Bush, Cheney, McCain, et al. I learned a certain type of Conservatism/Libertarianism at the dinner table. Paul Harvey spoke of it, we saw the upstanding people around us epitomize it, and it synced up with what we knew of the Bible and the rules of Good Manners. Equality under the law, self-reliance, and civility were all part of the deal; this new thing that gets called conservative today is different, and toxic.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Rebble</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11357</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Rebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this post, and the comments under it, seems rather like listening to foreign tourists describe your hometown.

While it seems intelligent, and fact-based, the subject seems foreign to the author, and the post is devoid of any love for conservatism.

This seems a post by libs, and for libs, and the subject just happens to be conservatism, and ideas for dividing it against itself.

That is consistent, of course, with the author&#039;s other contributions here at TAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this post, and the comments under it, seems rather like listening to foreign tourists describe your hometown.</p>
<p>While it seems intelligent, and fact-based, the subject seems foreign to the author, and the post is devoid of any love for conservatism.</p>
<p>This seems a post by libs, and for libs, and the subject just happens to be conservatism, and ideas for dividing it against itself.</p>
<p>That is consistent, of course, with the author&#8217;s other contributions here at TAC.</p>
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		<title>By: MattSwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11354</link>
		<dc:creator>MattSwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst scenario possible would be if the two warring factions (institutional and ideological) got on the same page anytime soon, because then they&#039;d go on another winning streak. Winners don&#039;t reflect, and unless there&#039;s some serious reflection, the GOP will keep being a dull, idea-less part that&#039;s &quot;moderate&quot; about everything except Foreign War and Business-Friendly regulatory structures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst scenario possible would be if the two warring factions (institutional and ideological) got on the same page anytime soon, because then they&#8217;d go on another winning streak. Winners don&#8217;t reflect, and unless there&#8217;s some serious reflection, the GOP will keep being a dull, idea-less part that&#8217;s &#8220;moderate&#8221; about everything except Foreign War and Business-Friendly regulatory structures.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor Friedersdorf - Metablog &#8211; Discretion is the Better Part of Statemanship - True/Slant</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11352</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor Friedersdorf - Metablog &#8211; Discretion is the Better Part of Statemanship - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest complaint from Conservative Inc. blogger Dan Riehl is that President Obama &#8212; on a visit to Japan &#8212; sidestepped a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John 4</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11342</link>
		<dc:creator>John 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and gave us a good indication of what life inside John McCain’s America would be like&quot;

This is ridiculous claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and gave us a good indication of what life inside John McCain’s America would be like&#8221;</p>
<p>This is ridiculous claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuyawker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neuyawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing, as we all do, that Patrick loves his strong leaders, I still miss the connection to Afghanistan unless the reference has to do with bold action.

I&#039;m going to be bold here and suppose that bold action is the reference point and so posit this question.  What, Patrick lad, could be more bold than to look upon the question of Afghanistan with a cold calculating gaze and, to the degree humanly possible, without emotion evaluate cost vs gain? Are we bold enough to demand answers that make sense when gasoline needed to prosecute that war costs the American taxpayer $400.00 a gallon, some goodly portion of which goes to the Taliban for protection money so our convoys can make their deliveries?  I sure hope we are because Afghanistan was essentially won by 2003 and why we are still there is a mystery, so it seems, to everyone in not just the country at large, but in Washington, DC as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing, as we all do, that Patrick loves his strong leaders, I still miss the connection to Afghanistan unless the reference has to do with bold action.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be bold here and suppose that bold action is the reference point and so posit this question.  What, Patrick lad, could be more bold than to look upon the question of Afghanistan with a cold calculating gaze and, to the degree humanly possible, without emotion evaluate cost vs gain? Are we bold enough to demand answers that make sense when gasoline needed to prosecute that war costs the American taxpayer $400.00 a gallon, some goodly portion of which goes to the Taliban for protection money so our convoys can make their deliveries?  I sure hope we are because Afghanistan was essentially won by 2003 and why we are still there is a mystery, so it seems, to everyone in not just the country at large, but in Washington, DC as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuyawker</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11294</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuyawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  all the above sounds about right, though as a committed Democrat and big-time Obama supporter I&#039;d just as soon none of you pay any attention to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  all the above sounds about right, though as a committed Democrat and big-time Obama supporter I&#8217;d just as soon none of you pay any attention to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Filing Tax - Feds move to seize four mosques, tower - Sauk Valley Daily Gazette &#171; Filing Tax</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/11/13/division-bell/comment-page-1/#comment-11247</link>
		<dc:creator>Filing Tax - Feds move to seize four mosques, tower - Sauk Valley Daily Gazette &#171; Filing Tax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Division Bell - American Conservative MagazineThe real division roiling the party right now is between the institutional establishment and Conservative INC. The institutional establishment includes the Republican Party itself along with all the think tanks, media figures, big donors and power [...]</description>
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