Comments on: Are You Ready For Some Football? http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=are-you-ready-for-some-football @TAC Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:36:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The American Conservative » Us, Them http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-94548 The American Conservative » Us, Them Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:02:42 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-94548 [...] latest eruption is the sort of PR nightmare that the NFL was concerned with when they refused to allow him to become an owner a couple of years [...] [...] latest eruption is the sort of PR nightmare that the NFL was concerned with when they refused to allow him to become an owner a couple of years [...]

]]> By: Thomas http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10991 Thomas Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:46:17 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10991 Rush is not a conservative. So why is AmCon bad for making negative statements about him? Do you have short memories? Do you remember how he just tried to get you to vote for Romney or Giuliani (or Hillary)? Do you remember how he didn't let anti-NAFTA and anti-GATT people call into the show? How he virtually backed Dole early on in 96? How he said the Council on Foreign Relations didn't exist? And what does he support? Capitalists (not always the free market even), "free trade", war, and the Republican Party. Rush is not a conservative.

So why is AmCon bad for making negative statements about him?

Do you have short memories? Do you remember how he just tried to get you to vote for Romney or Giuliani (or Hillary)? Do you remember how he didn’t let anti-NAFTA and anti-GATT people call into the show? How he virtually backed Dole early on in 96? How he said the Council on Foreign Relations didn’t exist?

And what does he support? Capitalists (not always the free market even), “free trade”, war, and the Republican Party.

]]> By: WestWright http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10914 WestWright Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:08:57 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10914 WTH, the American Conservative appears to be a misnomer, the American Apologist or AmCon Progressive would appear to be more acurate. During my sparse previous visits here I caught a whiff of this odour but your bashing of Limbaugh confirms a real leftward stench! WTH, the American Conservative appears to be a misnomer, the American Apologist or AmCon Progressive would appear to be more acurate. During my sparse previous visits here I caught a whiff of this odour but your bashing of Limbaugh confirms a real leftward stench!

]]> By: Barney Rebble http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10607 Barney Rebble Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:57:24 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10607 Conspiracy theory alert: Was Rush "set up"? http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Limbaugh_Rams_Soros/2009/10/15/272750.html What if the left engineered a way to attempt to do damage to Rush? Conspiracy theory alert: Was Rush “set up”?

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Limbaugh_Rams_Soros/2009/10/15/272750.html

What if the left engineered a way to attempt to do damage to Rush?

]]> By: Red Phillips http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10601 Red Phillips Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:38:29 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10601 Tony J, did you hear Goodell emasculate himself in his PC slobber fest statement. If it is bad for business then say it is bad for business and be done with it. But he didn't just do that. He validated all the PC thought policing like a good little Cultural Marxist. The man is a tool and should be ashamed of himself. Tony J, did you hear Goodell emasculate himself in his PC slobber fest statement. If it is bad for business then say it is bad for business and be done with it. But he didn’t just do that. He validated all the PC thought policing like a good little Cultural Marxist. The man is a tool and should be ashamed of himself.

]]> By: Tony J http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10596 Tony J Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:10:13 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10596 Jeebus H Christ. Rush Limbaugh got dropped from the investment group bidding for the Rams because many of the players they'd want to employ in order to make that investment profitable said they wouldn't play for any team he had a stake in. That's what happened here, the market spoke, and it was louder than any microphone. In what alternate universe is it incumbent upon private investors to waste their money in a deal that would never return an investment just to make Rush Limburgh feel like less of a tool? It truly baffles me how anyone could find the investment group's decision surprising. News Flash - Rush Limburgh is not popular outside of his chosen audience, and people who want to make lots of money from the NFL by buying a team have no obligation whatsoever to pretend otherwise. Or to put it even more simply, just because Rush Limbaugh is a challenger for the title of Most Popular Right Wing Leader Who Isn't Actually Elected, it appears that he's considered 'Too Big to Fail' by those who like his stuff. Well, y'know, he's obviously not. Just deal with the pain and stop trying to make yet another insidious conspiracy out of it. You'll only get ulcers. Jeebus H Christ.

Rush Limbaugh got dropped from the investment group bidding for the Rams because many of the players they’d want to employ in order to make that investment profitable said they wouldn’t play for any team he had a stake in. That’s what happened here, the market spoke, and it was louder than any microphone.

In what alternate universe is it incumbent upon private investors to waste their money in a deal that would never return an investment just to make Rush Limburgh feel like less of a tool?

It truly baffles me how anyone could find the investment group’s decision surprising. News Flash – Rush Limburgh is not popular outside of his chosen audience, and people who want to make lots of money from the NFL by buying a team have no obligation whatsoever to pretend otherwise.

Or to put it even more simply, just because Rush Limbaugh is a challenger for the title of Most Popular Right Wing Leader Who Isn’t Actually Elected, it appears that he’s considered ‘Too Big to Fail’ by those who like his stuff. Well, y’know, he’s obviously not. Just deal with the pain and stop trying to make yet another insidious conspiracy out of it. You’ll only get ulcers.

]]> By: NGW http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10589 NGW Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:49:14 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10589 yet, liberals can continue to say far more offensive things and act far more political and still be 'spokesmen, sports owners, and so on... The current double standard means civility only applies to white conservative males - and that previously perfectly acceptable words are now uncivil (oriental, for example). You seem to be either approving or capitulating . This 'standard' means that the neocons/left, or the globalist elite, will 'always' eventually win every issue...and you know what, they have.. yet, liberals can continue to say far more offensive things and act far more political and still be ‘spokesmen, sports owners, and so on…

The current double standard means civility only applies to white conservative males – and that previously perfectly acceptable words are now uncivil (oriental, for example). You seem to be either approving or capitulating . This ‘standard’ means that the neocons/left, or the globalist elite, will ‘always’ eventually win every issue…and you know what, they have..

]]> By: Penny http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10588 Penny Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:35:58 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10588 I guess you have to be a pill popping fiend in order to be a true conservative. I guess you have to be a pill popping fiend in order to be a true conservative.

]]> By: Red Phillips http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10586 Red Phillips Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:24:29 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10586 All is not dichotomous, but I get Webster's and Rossi's point. The outrage here is that Political Correctness has derailed an entirely legitimate attempt to buy a football team. We should be training our sights on the obvious Cultural Marxism on display, not on Rush. Particularly Goodell's craven and inarticulate babbling PC fest explanation for why Rush was not welcome. Goodell, the NFL, the owners group that dropped him, and all the PC thought slaves that protested are the villains in this story, not Rush. All is not dichotomous, but I get Webster’s and Rossi’s point. The outrage here is that Political Correctness has derailed an entirely legitimate attempt to buy a football team. We should be training our sights on the obvious Cultural Marxism on display, not on Rush. Particularly Goodell’s craven and inarticulate babbling PC fest explanation for why Rush was not welcome.

Goodell, the NFL, the owners group that dropped him, and all the PC thought slaves that protested are the villains in this story, not Rush.

]]> By: Adam Rurik http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10585 Adam Rurik Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:07:27 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10585 The role of "Rich Man, Having Never Played Game, Acquires NFL Franchise and Screws Said Franchise Into Ground" is already taken, and there'd be no way in hell Dan Snyder would ever give up that distinction! The role of “Rich Man, Having Never Played Game, Acquires NFL Franchise and Screws Said Franchise Into Ground” is already taken, and there’d be no way in hell Dan Snyder would ever give up that distinction!

]]> By: MattSwartz http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10583 MattSwartz Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:41:06 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10583 I think Rush’s rejection is about the politics of the NFL rather than the politics of Limbaugh himself. If Rush had been approved, he would have been different from every other owner in several ways, but the most important of them would have been his direct power over the airwaves. Mark Cuban, the controversial owner of the Dallas Mavericks, gives his league fits by criticizing the way officiating and league discipline are handled. He alleges bias, incompetence, and favoritism, and they don’t always have good answers to his accusations. Rush has a similar personality profile, more money, and (this is the most important) a 3-hour national radio gig. So there’s that, and also the fact that Rush’s coalition is trying to keep the team in St. Louis (a small media market) instead of letting them move to LA (the 2nd-biggest market). That makes a difference because the owners have a revenue sharing deal, meaning that they would, as a group, stand to profit from the move. Did Rush’s being a racial and political lightning rod help the league push him out? Absolutely. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the same thing as being the cause of his rejection. I think Rush’s rejection is about the politics of the NFL rather than the politics of Limbaugh himself. If Rush had been approved, he would have been different from every other owner in several ways, but the most important of them would have been his direct power over the airwaves.

Mark Cuban, the controversial owner of the Dallas Mavericks, gives his league fits by criticizing the way officiating and league discipline are handled. He alleges bias, incompetence, and favoritism, and they don’t always have good answers to his accusations. Rush has a similar personality profile, more money, and (this is the most important) a 3-hour national radio gig.

So there’s that, and also the fact that Rush’s coalition is trying to keep the team in St. Louis (a small media market) instead of letting them move to LA (the 2nd-biggest market). That makes a difference because the owners have a revenue sharing deal, meaning that they would, as a group, stand to profit from the move.

Did Rush’s being a racial and political lightning rod help the league push him out? Absolutely. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the same thing as being the cause of his rejection.

]]> By: icr http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10581 icr Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:59:57 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10581 <i>Why is this website conservative again?</i> Not much conservatism here. Even less at the GOP:http://mangans.blogspot.com/2009/10/gopcom.html If you want conservatism you should probably become a Mormon and avoid politics. Better yet join the ROCOR-MP. At least the latter has a homeland where the schoolkids still read Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy instead of Toni Morrison and other multiculti trendy stuff. Or so I've heard. I'm not a fan of Limbaugh, but what (most of) his wisecracks might be alluding to is the hatred our ruling elites-what Mencius Moldburg refers to as "The Cathedral"-have for virtually everything about the pre-1965 US. Why is this website conservative again?

Not much conservatism here. Even less at the GOP:http://mangans.blogspot.com/2009/10/gopcom.html

If you want conservatism you should probably become a Mormon and avoid politics. Better yet join the ROCOR-MP. At least the latter has a homeland where the schoolkids still read Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy instead of Toni Morrison and other multiculti trendy stuff. Or so I’ve heard.

I’m not a fan of Limbaugh, but what (most of) his wisecracks might be alluding to is the hatred our ruling elites-what Mencius Moldburg refers to as “The Cathedral”-have for virtually everything about the pre-1965 US.

]]> By: Carter http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10580 Carter Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:28:35 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10580 "The lesson for Limbaugh...is that he should stay inside the bubble" This "lesson" doesn't only apply to Limbaugh. “The lesson for Limbaugh…is that he should stay inside the bubble”

This “lesson” doesn’t only apply to Limbaugh.

]]> By: MattSwartz http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10578 MattSwartz Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10578 I think Rush's rejection is about the politics of the NFL rather than the politics of Limbaugh himself. If Rush had been approved, he would have been different from every other owner in several ways, but the most important of them would have been his direct power over the airwaves. Mark Cuban, the controversial owner of the Dallas Mavericks, gives his league fits by criticizing the way officiating and league discipline are handled. He alleges bias, incompetence, and favoritism, and they don't always have good answers to his accusations. Rush has a similar personality profile, more money, and (this is the most important) <b>a 3-hour national radio gig</i>. So there's that, and also the fact that Rush's coalition is trying to keep the team in St. Louis (a small media market) instead of letting them move to LA (the 2nd-biggest market). That makes a difference because the owners have a revenue sharing deal, meaning that they would, as a group, stand to profit from the move. Did Rush's being a racial and political lightning rod help the league push him out? Absolutely. But I don't think that's necessarily the same thing as being the cause of his rejection. I think Rush’s rejection is about the politics of the NFL rather than the politics of Limbaugh himself. If Rush had been approved, he would have been different from every other owner in several ways, but the most important of them would have been his direct power over the airwaves.

Mark Cuban, the controversial owner of the Dallas Mavericks, gives his league fits by criticizing the way officiating and league discipline are handled. He alleges bias, incompetence, and favoritism, and they don’t always have good answers to his accusations. Rush has a similar personality profile, more money, and (this is the most important) a 3-hour national radio gig.

So there’s that, and also the fact that Rush’s coalition is trying to keep the team in St. Louis (a small media market) instead of letting them move to LA (the 2nd-biggest market). That makes a difference because the owners have a revenue sharing deal, meaning that they would, as a group, stand to profit from the move.

Did Rush’s being a racial and political lightning rod help the league push him out? Absolutely. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the same thing as being the cause of his rejection.

]]> By: Thomas O. Meehan http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/10/15/are-you-ready-for-some-football/comment-page-1/#comment-10569 Thomas O. Meehan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:57:16 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=2237#comment-10569 Sean, he didn't "Get in trouble." He tried a commercial transaction and the hive closed in around him. Limbaugh may be a buffoon but I for one will not take pleasure or part in this blackballing. Limbaugh, Hannity & company are powerful because they operate in a vacuum of leadership and policy coherence on the right. I'm sure his ilk would be happy to play the role of cheerleader if there was anyone of stature to look up to. Sean, he didn’t “Get in trouble.” He tried a commercial transaction and the hive closed in around him. Limbaugh may be a buffoon but I for one will not take pleasure or part in this blackballing.

Limbaugh, Hannity & company are powerful because they operate in a vacuum of leadership and policy coherence on the right. I’m sure his ilk would be happy to play the role of cheerleader if there was anyone of stature to look up to.

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