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	<title>Comments on: Gates Is Lucky Cambridge Doesn&#8217;t Tase</title>
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		<title>By: Excited-Delirium.com</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/29/gates-is-lucky-cambridge-doesnt-tase/comment-page-1/#comment-8548</link>
		<dc:creator>Excited-Delirium.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the crux of the taser issue is Taser International increasingly unbelieveable claims that the taser cannot possibly cause a death via any inherent internal risk factors such as cardiac effects. Taser Torture is also an issue, but I believe that exposing the risk of death is the first step, followed closely by taser abuse, misuse and overuse (especially against minorities, as a modern electrowhip).

On my blog at Excited-Delirium.com (with the dash) I bring you news of the recent Canadian Braidwood Inquiry into taser use that conclude that tasers are capable of causing death, via any of several taser-death mechanisms, even in healthy adults. Please use Google or my blog to guide you to the Braidwood Report and read the summary.

Also, for those that haven&#039;t already figured it out for themselves, there is the taser&#039;s &quot;Curious Temporal Asymmetry&quot; that uses a simple and obvious observation to indicate the real truth about taser / death cause and effect. Please Google the phrase and think it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the crux of the taser issue is Taser International increasingly unbelieveable claims that the taser cannot possibly cause a death via any inherent internal risk factors such as cardiac effects. Taser Torture is also an issue, but I believe that exposing the risk of death is the first step, followed closely by taser abuse, misuse and overuse (especially against minorities, as a modern electrowhip).</p>
<p>On my blog at Excited-Delirium.com (with the dash) I bring you news of the recent Canadian Braidwood Inquiry into taser use that conclude that tasers are capable of causing death, via any of several taser-death mechanisms, even in healthy adults. Please use Google or my blog to guide you to the Braidwood Report and read the summary.</p>
<p>Also, for those that haven&#8217;t already figured it out for themselves, there is the taser&#8217;s &#8220;Curious Temporal Asymmetry&#8221; that uses a simple and obvious observation to indicate the real truth about taser / death cause and effect. Please Google the phrase and think it through.</p>
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		<title>By: LivingInHippeTown</title>
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		<dc:creator>LivingInHippeTown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How much police militarization and excessive force is encouraged by social disorder and cultural contempt for the police?&quot;

Interesting question.  I see it as a fairly vicious cycle.  The more the police militarize and engage in blatant assaults on liberty, the more social disorder and contempt then can expect to reap. Over the last decade I have noticed a real shift within the police force in the small city I live in (150k people), and it has not been for the better.  What disturbs me the most about this shift is that it is not in response to any increase in crime (we really don&#039;t have much violent crime here).  Some changes were subtle and some were not.  Our officers went from light blue uniforms to a navy (almost black) uniform, from shoes to combat boots, from shotguns to M16s.  In this small city we even have 2 swat teams (one city and 1 Sheriff).  10 years ago it was rare to see them called out, now it&#039;s a regular thing (for fairly minor situations).

I know several officers on both the city police force and that work with the Sheriff&#039;s office.  I break them down into 2 groups.  Those that live &quot;the cop&quot; lifestyle and those that don&#039;t.  out of the 10 or 11 officers that I know, the only ones that are decent human beings are the ones that don&#039;t hang out with other cops.  When they punch out at the end of their shift they are done.  The 8-9 guys are just miserable human beings.  The big chip sits on the shoulders all of the time.  It&#039;s a real us vs them attitude.  The problem is the &quot;them&quot; is not the criminal element, it&#039;s all non cops!  That&#039;s not healthy for any free society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much police militarization and excessive force is encouraged by social disorder and cultural contempt for the police?&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting question.  I see it as a fairly vicious cycle.  The more the police militarize and engage in blatant assaults on liberty, the more social disorder and contempt then can expect to reap. Over the last decade I have noticed a real shift within the police force in the small city I live in (150k people), and it has not been for the better.  What disturbs me the most about this shift is that it is not in response to any increase in crime (we really don&#8217;t have much violent crime here).  Some changes were subtle and some were not.  Our officers went from light blue uniforms to a navy (almost black) uniform, from shoes to combat boots, from shotguns to M16s.  In this small city we even have 2 swat teams (one city and 1 Sheriff).  10 years ago it was rare to see them called out, now it&#8217;s a regular thing (for fairly minor situations).</p>
<p>I know several officers on both the city police force and that work with the Sheriff&#8217;s office.  I break them down into 2 groups.  Those that live &#8220;the cop&#8221; lifestyle and those that don&#8217;t.  out of the 10 or 11 officers that I know, the only ones that are decent human beings are the ones that don&#8217;t hang out with other cops.  When they punch out at the end of their shift they are done.  The 8-9 guys are just miserable human beings.  The big chip sits on the shoulders all of the time.  It&#8217;s a real us vs them attitude.  The problem is the &#8220;them&#8221; is not the criminal element, it&#8217;s all non cops!  That&#8217;s not healthy for any free society.</p>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taser Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/29/gates-is-lucky-cambridge-doesnt-tase/comment-page-1/#comment-8388</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taser Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vlahos on taserings and police shootings.   Digg it&#160;&#124;&#160; reddit&#160;&#124;&#160; del.icio.us&#160;&#124;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vlahos on taserings and police shootings.   Digg it&nbsp;|&nbsp; reddit&nbsp;|&nbsp; del.icio.us&nbsp;|&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin J Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/29/gates-is-lucky-cambridge-doesnt-tase/comment-page-1/#comment-8363</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin J Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Policeman deaths are also down, I&#039;m told, because in previous decades police were more naive and less paranoid about people trying to kill them.

How much police militarization and excessive force is encouraged by social disorder and cultural contempt for the police?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Policeman deaths are also down, I&#8217;m told, because in previous decades police were more naive and less paranoid about people trying to kill them.</p>
<p>How much police militarization and excessive force is encouraged by social disorder and cultural contempt for the police?</p>
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		<title>By: An Exercise for the Reader &#167; Unqualified Offerings</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Exercise for the Reader &#167; Unqualified Offerings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yet more *tasers, this time) from Kelly Vlahos.  Posted by Jim Henley @ 7:20 am, Filed under: Main  Comments (0)   &#171; &#171; Foot, mouth, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yet more *tasers, this time) from Kelly Vlahos.  Posted by Jim Henley @ 7:20 am, Filed under: Main  Comments (0)   &laquo; &laquo; Foot, mouth, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Rebble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barney Rebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your whole thesis completely ignores the fact that a LOT OF PROBLEMS have been cleaned up, and today&#039;s police force are more culturally and racially sensitive than ever before, overall.

In Portland, Ore, late 70&#039;s, a streetwalking drunk knocked off one of my external rearview mirrors, I got out of the car and was beginning to give chase, when a policeman pulled up.  I quickly explained, and he got on radio, and said to dispatcher, &quot;We have a piece of shit, who knocked a citizen&#039;s mirror off...&quot;.  A minute later, dispatcher&#039;s voice said, &quot;Your piece of shit is one block over...&quot;

I got a quick lecture about getting out of my car in that part of town, and the policeman was gone.  I was left vaguely offended, but not enough so to file a complaint.  Only 10 years before, I had left Roseburg Oregon, who had a law on the books in the 60&#039;s that no black people were allowed within the city limits after dark.  I had never known about that law, until much later in life.

After a lifetime of computer-based accounting, remembering the calculus physics and statistical analysis, and set theory, I can confidently that any good accountant can LIE using statistics.

But if you&#039;re REALLY going to LIE, use anecdotal evidence.  Don&#039;t you agree, Ms Vlahos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your whole thesis completely ignores the fact that a LOT OF PROBLEMS have been cleaned up, and today&#8217;s police force are more culturally and racially sensitive than ever before, overall.</p>
<p>In Portland, Ore, late 70&#8242;s, a streetwalking drunk knocked off one of my external rearview mirrors, I got out of the car and was beginning to give chase, when a policeman pulled up.  I quickly explained, and he got on radio, and said to dispatcher, &#8220;We have a piece of shit, who knocked a citizen&#8217;s mirror off&#8230;&#8221;.  A minute later, dispatcher&#8217;s voice said, &#8220;Your piece of shit is one block over&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I got a quick lecture about getting out of my car in that part of town, and the policeman was gone.  I was left vaguely offended, but not enough so to file a complaint.  Only 10 years before, I had left Roseburg Oregon, who had a law on the books in the 60&#8242;s that no black people were allowed within the city limits after dark.  I had never known about that law, until much later in life.</p>
<p>After a lifetime of computer-based accounting, remembering the calculus physics and statistical analysis, and set theory, I can confidently that any good accountant can LIE using statistics.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re REALLY going to LIE, use anecdotal evidence.  Don&#8217;t you agree, Ms Vlahos?</p>
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		<title>By: Police Taser Use: Cost-Benefit Analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/29/gates-is-lucky-cambridge-doesnt-tase/comment-page-1/#comment-8288</link>
		<dc:creator>Police Taser Use: Cost-Benefit Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kelley Vlahos does just that in a piece for The American Conservative.  The numbers are surprising: According to federal statistics, the number of police officers shot and killed in the line of duty is at an historic low. The nationwide number actually dropped 40 percent — from 68 in 2007 to 41 in 2008. The numbers have been on a downward trajectory for years, and Tasers are in part, credited. But there are other reasons, too, like the fact that overall violent crime is down, police wear super high-tech bullet-proof vests today and some 2.3 million Americans are incarcerated and off the streets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kelley Vlahos does just that in a piece for The American Conservative.  The numbers are surprising: According to federal statistics, the number of police officers shot and killed in the line of duty is at an historic low. The nationwide number actually dropped 40 percent — from 68 in 2007 to 41 in 2008. The numbers have been on a downward trajectory for years, and Tasers are in part, credited. But there are other reasons, too, like the fact that overall violent crime is down, police wear super high-tech bullet-proof vests today and some 2.3 million Americans are incarcerated and off the streets. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No, Really, Seriously, Don&#8217;t Tase Me Bro &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/29/gates-is-lucky-cambridge-doesnt-tase/comment-page-1/#comment-8285</link>
		<dc:creator>No, Really, Seriously, Don&#8217;t Tase Me Bro &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kelley Vlahos in TAC: Seriously, a quick Google News search of the last month alone reveals a barrage of police tasing incidents across the country one more barbaric than the other: grandmas, grandpas, the mentally ill, teens and even children. Some of these taser victims died. One (ok, in Australia) burst into flames, another was left with burns in his anus, and yet another, a 14-year-old girl, got it in the head — running away after a dispute with her mother over a cell phone (caution, graphic). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kelley Vlahos in TAC: Seriously, a quick Google News search of the last month alone reveals a barrage of police tasing incidents across the country one more barbaric than the other: grandmas, grandpas, the mentally ill, teens and even children. Some of these taser victims died. One (ok, in Australia) burst into flames, another was left with burns in his anus, and yet another, a 14-year-old girl, got it in the head — running away after a dispute with her mother over a cell phone (caution, graphic). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Scrum-half</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Scrum-half</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have anything substantive to add to this post, but I need to express my gratitude for the existence of this web site and its writers.  I consider myself a conservative, but events since 2002 have convinced me that I no longer can call myself a Republican.  I&#039;m just so glad for sites like The American Conservative, which makes me realize that there still are a few sane conservatives left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have anything substantive to add to this post, but I need to express my gratitude for the existence of this web site and its writers.  I consider myself a conservative, but events since 2002 have convinced me that I no longer can call myself a Republican.  I&#8217;m just so glad for sites like The American Conservative, which makes me realize that there still are a few sane conservatives left.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Giraldi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Giraldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Kelley, there are more cops than ever.  I don&#039;t know how many new policemen have been hired since 9/11, but I think it is safe to say that every police jurisdiction has grown in size even though crime rates have been going down.  Here in Loudoun County Virginia there are plans for a 60 plus officer police substation in the rural western part of the county.  But we have near zero crime and the crime we do have is usually of the smashed mailbox variety.  Police and Sheriff departments are really good at coming up with justifications for growing bigger based on some bozo&#039;s analysis of how many cops per citizen you have to have for &quot;protection.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Kelley, there are more cops than ever.  I don&#8217;t know how many new policemen have been hired since 9/11, but I think it is safe to say that every police jurisdiction has grown in size even though crime rates have been going down.  Here in Loudoun County Virginia there are plans for a 60 plus officer police substation in the rural western part of the county.  But we have near zero crime and the crime we do have is usually of the smashed mailbox variety.  Police and Sheriff departments are really good at coming up with justifications for growing bigger based on some bozo&#8217;s analysis of how many cops per citizen you have to have for &#8220;protection.&#8221;</p>
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