Comments on: The Right’s Urban Problem http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-rights-urban-problem @TAC Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:36:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nathan P. Origer http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-7808 Nathan P. Origer Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:08:13 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1989#comment-7808 I've written at length (if not necessarily to any worthwhile end) at urbanism and conservatism. The links are here, for anyone remotely interested: http://nathancontramundi.wordpress.com/category/new-urbanism/ I’ve written at length (if not necessarily to any worthwhile end) at urbanism and conservatism. The links are here, for anyone remotely interested:

http://nathancontramundi.wordpress.com/category/new-urbanism/

]]> By: brandon adamson http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-7789 brandon adamson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:53:24 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1989#comment-7789 As someone who has lived in both Los Angeles and Phoenix, I think that there are a few notable factors here. People in the suburbs are having less children than they used to, while impoverished urban communities are basically baby factories. There are also of course, a ton of young, white, urban, childless liberals. These folks are hardcore though. They might be into retro culture and 50's atomic ranch style homes, but they don't make the connection between the ambiance of that lifestyle and conservatism(of any kind.) They might envision a world of 21st century modernism, but they counter-productively vote in support of illegal immigration and in favor of importing massive amounts of uneducated impoverished people, who would have no understanding or appreciation for the type of modern society they are trying to create. So we are left with major cities that are essentially mini third world countries, with a few wealthy retromodern ultraliberal communities mixed in. Probably the biggest factor though in my mind, is something that was a recurring theme in the book "The Dumbest Generation," and that is that young people are not growing up, and are remaining forever adolescents. Starting a family after college and moving to the suburbs to raise it are not remotely part of their goals(and they subsequently miss out on some of the "facts of life" that would have otherwise emerged along with that.) Having one child in their late 30's and living in a downtown loft is more up their alley. A friend of mine just returned from Portland, and I asked him if he was considering moving there. His response was "No. Portland's great... if you want to be 23 forever." I would guess there are a few angles to work here, but I doubt any of them will be effective enough to counter the overwhelming demographic trends the GOP is up against. Most of the people here don't see budget deficits as being a result of shamefully undisciplined government spending, but rather of greedy wealthy people being unwilling to pay enough taxes for lawmakers to effectively run the city. And this isn't San Francisco or Seattle... this is Phoenix we're talking about here where people have adopted those attitudes. I think more than anything what the GOP needs is a candidate with the courage to speak the truth to people about "the facts of life." As people don't like being told what they don't want to hear, this person would surely lose but would lay the foundation necessary to take back our cities, "brick by brick, block by block." Not likely to happen in any case. I for one am looking forward to reading John Derbyshire's new book, "We Are Doomed." As someone who has lived in both Los Angeles and Phoenix, I think that there are a few notable factors here. People in the suburbs are having less children than they used to, while impoverished urban communities are basically baby factories. There are also of course, a ton of young, white, urban, childless liberals. These folks are hardcore though. They might be into retro culture and 50′s atomic ranch style homes, but they don’t make the connection between the ambiance of that lifestyle and conservatism(of any kind.) They might envision a world of 21st century modernism, but they counter-productively vote in support of illegal immigration and in favor of importing massive amounts of uneducated impoverished people, who would have no understanding or appreciation for the type of modern society they are trying to create. So we are left with major cities that are essentially mini third world countries, with a few wealthy retromodern ultraliberal communities mixed in.

Probably the biggest factor though in my mind, is something that was a recurring theme in the book “The Dumbest Generation,” and that is that young people are not growing up, and are remaining forever adolescents. Starting a family after college and moving to the suburbs to raise it are not remotely part of their goals(and they subsequently miss out on some of the “facts of life” that would have otherwise emerged along with that.) Having one child in their late 30′s and living in a downtown loft is more up their alley. A friend of mine just returned from Portland, and I asked him if he was considering moving there. His response was “No. Portland’s great… if you want to be 23 forever.”

I would guess there are a few angles to work here, but I doubt any of them will be effective enough to counter the overwhelming demographic trends the GOP is up against. Most of the people here don’t see budget deficits as being a result of shamefully undisciplined government spending, but rather of greedy wealthy people being unwilling to pay enough taxes for lawmakers to effectively run the city. And this isn’t San Francisco or Seattle… this is Phoenix we’re talking about here where people have adopted those attitudes. I think more than anything what the GOP needs is a candidate with the courage to speak the truth to people about “the facts of life.” As people don’t like being told what they don’t want to hear, this person would surely lose but would lay the foundation necessary to take back our cities, “brick by brick, block by block.” Not likely to happen in any case. I for one am looking forward to reading John Derbyshire’s new book, “We Are Doomed.”

]]> By: Sean Scallon http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-7736 Sean Scallon Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:05:35 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1989#comment-7736 Hear, hear! Hear, hear!

]]> By: links… | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-7724 links… | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:48:49 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1989#comment-7724 [...] Lewis McCrary points out the Right’s urban problem. [...] [...] Lewis McCrary points out the Right’s urban problem. [...]

]]> By: SteveM http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/07/07/the-rights-urban-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-7722 SteveM Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:41:18 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1989#comment-7722 I think this is a great topic. For those interested in one dedicated approach see the link. I think this is a great topic. For those interested in one dedicated approach see the link.

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