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	<title>Comments on: Lindsey Graham Gets Testy at Ron Paul Supporters</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Ron Paul is not Graham&#039;s type. I think he prefers men in uniform like Mccain.  Graham, just another useless RINO, moderate republican. Of no use to anybody who is a true conservative. 

Obviously a sodomite. He is very effeminate. Also Lindsey, what about the parts of the bible forbidding homosexuality? Little sassy queen. 

He and Barney Slurping Frank, need to get together and move to san fransisco.  I  am sick of sodomites, and other immoral people running this country. The government is full of devils, some obvious, others  are wolves in sheeps clothing.  They must be exorcised out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Ron Paul is not Graham&#8217;s type. I think he prefers men in uniform like Mccain.  Graham, just another useless RINO, moderate republican. Of no use to anybody who is a true conservative. </p>
<p>Obviously a sodomite. He is very effeminate. Also Lindsey, what about the parts of the bible forbidding homosexuality? Little sassy queen. </p>
<p>He and Barney Slurping Frank, need to get together and move to san fransisco.  I  am sick of sodomites, and other immoral people running this country. The government is full of devils, some obvious, others  are wolves in sheeps clothing.  They must be exorcised out.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way it&#039;s the fault of Ron Paul supporters that Graham is behaving this way...very few Ron Paul supporters (myself included) supported his pro-Ron-Paul opponent Bob Conley in last year&#039;s elections...Graham received millions in campaign contributions while Conley was almost broke...even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote. Conley wasn&#039;t even able to get an endorsement from Ron Paul.

With an endorsement from RP and hundreds of thousands in donations like BJ Lawson received Conley could have beat him....now we are stuck for the next 6 years hearing Graham&#039;s trash talk. He sure hasn&#039;t forgotten that a Ron Paul supporter dared to take his Senate seat away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way it&#8217;s the fault of Ron Paul supporters that Graham is behaving this way&#8230;very few Ron Paul supporters (myself included) supported his pro-Ron-Paul opponent Bob Conley in last year&#8217;s elections&#8230;Graham received millions in campaign contributions while Conley was almost broke&#8230;even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote. Conley wasn&#8217;t even able to get an endorsement from Ron Paul.</p>
<p>With an endorsement from RP and hundreds of thousands in donations like BJ Lawson received Conley could have beat him&#8230;.now we are stuck for the next 6 years hearing Graham&#8217;s trash talk. He sure hasn&#8217;t forgotten that a Ron Paul supporter dared to take his Senate seat away.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve got our political leaders looting us by the trillions and killing civilians en masse, and JJ here has a problem with the only man standing against it because of his stances on term limits or earmarks that /only/ work if everyone else abides by it. He&#039;s obviously backing another horse.

It&#039;s true there&#039;s scary people over there, but you know why? This ridiculous foreign policy kills completely innocent families over there for no good damned reason at all and incenses people to violence who otherwise would merely talk about it. These actions are making it worse, upping their recruiting and making a boogeyman real. Those sorts of views would have no traction if we didn&#039;t have our fingers in all of their pies.

Look up Matthew Alexander. His team had tremendous success interrogating terrorists to bag the top guy in Iraq, with no torture used whatsoever. One guy even told him, &quot;I thought you would torture me, and when you didn&#039;t, I decided that everything I was told about Americans was wrong. That&#039;s why I decided to cooperate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got our political leaders looting us by the trillions and killing civilians en masse, and JJ here has a problem with the only man standing against it because of his stances on term limits or earmarks that /only/ work if everyone else abides by it. He&#8217;s obviously backing another horse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true there&#8217;s scary people over there, but you know why? This ridiculous foreign policy kills completely innocent families over there for no good damned reason at all and incenses people to violence who otherwise would merely talk about it. These actions are making it worse, upping their recruiting and making a boogeyman real. Those sorts of views would have no traction if we didn&#8217;t have our fingers in all of their pies.</p>
<p>Look up Matthew Alexander. His team had tremendous success interrogating terrorists to bag the top guy in Iraq, with no torture used whatsoever. One guy even told him, &#8220;I thought you would torture me, and when you didn&#8217;t, I decided that everything I was told about Americans was wrong. That&#8217;s why I decided to cooperate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tz</title>
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		<dc:creator>tz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently there is a bit of mistranslation to the 11th commandment.  It should be &quot;thou shall not speak evil of another RINO&quot;.  Graham apparently thinks it is fine to speak evil of paleocons, libertarians, constitutionalists, pro-lifers, cultural conservatives, just not the mushy-moderates or even someone like Arlen Spectre until a few weeks ago.

As to Ron Paul&#039;s &quot;same-as&quot;, there is a distinction in not violating your principles, and the art of the possible.  If $100 million is going to be misspent anyway (and he votes against the package), it isn&#039;t wrong to have it misspent on a lesser evil, or not to include his district in the spending.  Term limits are an ideal but not a strict principle.  It is a bit like gun control where you turn in your gun but not really enforce the evildoers turning in theirs.  Term limits is one of those things which can only work collectively, i.e. the whole house needs to be term-limited (and under the GOP, I think ALL chairmen were forced to rotate after 6 years).

Ahmadinejad does NOT control the military - it would help if people would learn who has what powers in Iran since it isn&#039;t along US system lines.  But we see this confusion here too.  Pelosi is practically being charged with ordering torture although she was merely in the minority leadership, but are ignoring Bush (who did have the power) and Cheney (who theoretically only breaks ties in the Senate and a few other minor things) are the ones who should be held accountable.  Of course I say hold everyone, Pelosi, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Tenent, and everyone else, but Ahmadinejad and Pelosi make for better caricatures to avoid actually thinking about the real issues, real crimes and criminals, or analyzing the real threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently there is a bit of mistranslation to the 11th commandment.  It should be &#8220;thou shall not speak evil of another RINO&#8221;.  Graham apparently thinks it is fine to speak evil of paleocons, libertarians, constitutionalists, pro-lifers, cultural conservatives, just not the mushy-moderates or even someone like Arlen Spectre until a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>As to Ron Paul&#8217;s &#8220;same-as&#8221;, there is a distinction in not violating your principles, and the art of the possible.  If $100 million is going to be misspent anyway (and he votes against the package), it isn&#8217;t wrong to have it misspent on a lesser evil, or not to include his district in the spending.  Term limits are an ideal but not a strict principle.  It is a bit like gun control where you turn in your gun but not really enforce the evildoers turning in theirs.  Term limits is one of those things which can only work collectively, i.e. the whole house needs to be term-limited (and under the GOP, I think ALL chairmen were forced to rotate after 6 years).</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad does NOT control the military &#8211; it would help if people would learn who has what powers in Iran since it isn&#8217;t along US system lines.  But we see this confusion here too.  Pelosi is practically being charged with ordering torture although she was merely in the minority leadership, but are ignoring Bush (who did have the power) and Cheney (who theoretically only breaks ties in the Senate and a few other minor things) are the ones who should be held accountable.  Of course I say hold everyone, Pelosi, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Tenent, and everyone else, but Ahmadinejad and Pelosi make for better caricatures to avoid actually thinking about the real issues, real crimes and criminals, or analyzing the real threats.</p>
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		<title>By: eep</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/05/17/lindsey-graham-gets-testy-at-ron-paul-supporters/comment-page-1/#comment-6567</link>
		<dc:creator>eep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 10:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnjay, Ahmadinejad is the clown, and Khamenei is the leader. What is wrong with our leaders for being silent in the re-election of Hitler? Is it because they seek to appease him? Is it because they fear his soapbox rants or is it because they need Hitler to be re-elected? The world stood by and without a whimper let Hitler be re-elected in June 2009.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KE14Ak02.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnjay, Ahmadinejad is the clown, and Khamenei is the leader. What is wrong with our leaders for being silent in the re-election of Hitler? Is it because they seek to appease him? Is it because they fear his soapbox rants or is it because they need Hitler to be re-elected? The world stood by and without a whimper let Hitler be re-elected in June 2009.<br />
<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KE14Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KE14Ak02.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: johnjay</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2009/05/17/lindsey-graham-gets-testy-at-ron-paul-supporters/comment-page-1/#comment-6540</link>
		<dc:creator>johnjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 07:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples and oranges....Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a fanatic that believes he&#039;s paving the way for the Mahdi... and is the head of a country seeking nuclear weapons.  John Hagee is a pastor with no power.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/iran_12-9.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples and oranges&#8230;.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a fanatic that believes he&#8217;s paving the way for the Mahdi&#8230; and is the head of a country seeking nuclear weapons.  John Hagee is a pastor with no power.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/iran_12-9.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/iran_12-9.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is clear that the Ron Paul posts on here draw the most comments.  i appreciate how AMCON is indpendent of politicians and stands for ideas, but is there any one politician who better captures the ideals of its readers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is clear that the Ron Paul posts on here draw the most comments.  i appreciate how AMCON is indpendent of politicians and stands for ideas, but is there any one politician who better captures the ideals of its readers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Fay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom T,

Really, vulgarity bothers you that much - you should probably never watch a football game with me then.  Jack&#039;s right though:  I&#039;ll take a Democrat who believes in the constitution over a neocon, George Bush-loving, McCain-ass-kissing, statist like Graham - who wants perpetual warfare and to nationalize the banking industry - any day of the week.

johnjay,

The 12th Imam philosophy is scary stuff but is it any worse than Pastor John Hagee advocated the preemptive use of nuclear weapons against Iran as a biblical edict.  By that logic, if a small minority of Iranians with apocalyptic beliefs is a reason to attack Iran then someone like Hagee, who has tremendous influence in many political circles - including the previous administration, is sufficient reason why America should be attacked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom T,</p>
<p>Really, vulgarity bothers you that much &#8211; you should probably never watch a football game with me then.  Jack&#8217;s right though:  I&#8217;ll take a Democrat who believes in the constitution over a neocon, George Bush-loving, McCain-ass-kissing, statist like Graham &#8211; who wants perpetual warfare and to nationalize the banking industry &#8211; any day of the week.</p>
<p>johnjay,</p>
<p>The 12th Imam philosophy is scary stuff but is it any worse than Pastor John Hagee advocated the preemptive use of nuclear weapons against Iran as a biblical edict.  By that logic, if a small minority of Iranians with apocalyptic beliefs is a reason to attack Iran then someone like Hagee, who has tremendous influence in many political circles &#8211; including the previous administration, is sufficient reason why America should be attacked</p>
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		<title>By: Weasel Lindsey Graham proves he is the worst of the worst &#124; Political Class Dismissed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weasel Lindsey Graham proves he is the worst of the worst &#124; Political Class Dismissed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] worst of the worst Written by Patrick Krey on May 19, 2009 &#8211; 7:37 am -  Anybody catch this video clip of a clearly shaken SC Senator Lindsey Graham trying to defend his disgusting record while [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] worst of the worst Written by Patrick Krey on May 19, 2009 &#8211; 7:37 am &#8211;  Anybody catch this video clip of a clearly shaken SC Senator Lindsey Graham trying to defend his disgusting record while [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Harmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I heard Graham say, &quot;I&#039;m a winner, pal.&quot;  What the hell is this?  It sounds like something a second-grader would say.  Graham is a taker, not a winner.  Time for this barnacled-over barge to take a leak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I heard Graham say, &#8220;I&#8217;m a winner, pal.&#8221;  What the hell is this?  It sounds like something a second-grader would say.  Graham is a taker, not a winner.  Time for this barnacled-over barge to take a leak.</p>
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		<title>By: johnjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is as much as a politician as anyone else. Pushed for term limits... but is currently on his 10th term?  He&#039;s against pork... but piles it on. Paul wanted to abolish public schools... now he doesn&#039;t.  Ron Paul is a nut in regard to foreign policy.  We have bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. for mobilization issues.  When the U.S. decided to close a base in Germany...Heidelberg and Mannheim begged the U.S. to stay...because they rely on our business.  Ron Paul is naive on Iran... perhaps he should read up on the 12th Imam religious philosophy.  Tim Russert .. the last journalist on MSNBC shook him up a long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhkbIDwK50</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul is as much as a politician as anyone else. Pushed for term limits&#8230; but is currently on his 10th term?  He&#8217;s against pork&#8230; but piles it on. Paul wanted to abolish public schools&#8230; now he doesn&#8217;t.  Ron Paul is a nut in regard to foreign policy.  We have bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. for mobilization issues.  When the U.S. decided to close a base in Germany&#8230;Heidelberg and Mannheim begged the U.S. to stay&#8230;because they rely on our business.  Ron Paul is naive on Iran&#8230; perhaps he should read up on the 12th Imam religious philosophy.  Tim Russert .. the last journalist on MSNBC shook him up a long time ago.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhkbIDwK50" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhkbIDwK50</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll vote for Ron Paul and no other Republican, sir.
You go start another war in Iran or Pakistan and kill more of our soldiers, sir, but I&#039;ll fight against what you stand for until the day I die.  You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and feel sorry for you, sir...you don&#039;t have the common sense and principles to consider yourself a libertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll vote for Ron Paul and no other Republican, sir.<br />
You go start another war in Iran or Pakistan and kill more of our soldiers, sir, but I&#8217;ll fight against what you stand for until the day I die.  You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and feel sorry for you, sir&#8230;you don&#8217;t have the common sense and principles to consider yourself a libertarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican Civil War Report Du Jour: Tom Price vs Limbaugh, Lindsey Graham vs Ron Paul &#124; North Carolina Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican Civil War Report Du Jour: Tom Price vs Limbaugh, Lindsey Graham vs Ron Paul &#124; North Carolina Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] areas.&#8221; That carried over to the South Carolina Republican Party this weekend, where he was booed and harrassed when he defensively tried taking a mainstream conservative approach at a gathering dominated by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] areas.&#8221; That carried over to the South Carolina Republican Party this weekend, where he was booed and harrassed when he defensively tried taking a mainstream conservative approach at a gathering dominated by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Westmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsey has &quot;won&quot; the biggest, most expensive, most authoritarian and interventionist government in U.S. history.
Sadly, he actually considers that a &quot;victory&quot;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey has &#8220;won&#8221; the biggest, most expensive, most authoritarian and interventionist government in U.S. history.<br />
Sadly, he actually considers that a &#8220;victory&#8221;!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Scott Emery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Scott Emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &quot;Fight them over there so they don&#039;t fight over here&quot; reveals Graham as a warmongering idiot of the Bush persuasion. Good for the Ron Paul supporters at the convention to shout this would be Caesar down. Ron Paul is the only man in America who can revive the Republican Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;Fight them over there so they don&#8217;t fight over here&#8221; reveals Graham as a warmongering idiot of the Bush persuasion. Good for the Ron Paul supporters at the convention to shout this would be Caesar down. Ron Paul is the only man in America who can revive the Republican Party.</p>
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