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	<title>Comments on: Gaza Day Two</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Tracey</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/12/28/gaza-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by &quot;justice&quot; one means punishment for misdeeds, then there will never be an end to violence, since both sides see each new punishment as a new misdeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;justice&#8221; one means punishment for misdeeds, then there will never be an end to violence, since both sides see each new punishment as a new misdeed.</p>
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		<title>By: DirtyHarriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>DirtyHarriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea, TonyJ. But I think the wall should be moved to said borders in your plan, and moved onto ISRAELI property. 

It would take about a generation before things finally calmed down. There must be justice for the refugees as well, whose right of return is spelled out in UN resolution 194, part 11. 

When there is justice, there can be peace. Israel has yet to learn this lesson when it comes to their dealings with the Palestinians, despite their ongoing efforts to seek justice for the Holocaust - a supreme irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea, TonyJ. But I think the wall should be moved to said borders in your plan, and moved onto ISRAELI property. </p>
<p>It would take about a generation before things finally calmed down. There must be justice for the refugees as well, whose right of return is spelled out in UN resolution 194, part 11. </p>
<p>When there is justice, there can be peace. Israel has yet to learn this lesson when it comes to their dealings with the Palestinians, despite their ongoing efforts to seek justice for the Holocaust &#8211; a supreme irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s going to keep on being this crappy for everyone concerned until &#039;someone&#039; imposes the only solution that will work. Two states, pre-1967 borders, international troops with a firm mandate lining every inch of them, and massive external financial stimulus.

  Give it a decade, and chances are that you&#039;ll have two states where extremism has been pushed to the fringes and 
the very idea of starting the conflict up again horrifies the vast majority of their populations. People who&#039;ve been given a way out of an existentialy horrible situation and achieved something better tend to be pathologicaly disinclined to put themselves in that situation again.

  But that&#039;s not going to happen until that same &#039;someone&#039; makes ending the Israeli Occupation of what will become the nation of Palestine the starting point of any peace deal, rather than something that &#039;might&#039; occur if the Palestinians stop resisting the Occupation long enough for Israelis stop feeling threatened.

  The situation that exists now just puts extremists on both sides in the driving seat, which shouldn&#039;t be a good thing in anyone&#039;s book. The fact that neo-conservatives have made achieving this state of existential horror a cornerstone of their foreign policy strategy just puts them safely and securely in the &#039;extremist &#039; camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s going to keep on being this crappy for everyone concerned until &#8216;someone&#8217; imposes the only solution that will work. Two states, pre-1967 borders, international troops with a firm mandate lining every inch of them, and massive external financial stimulus.</p>
<p>  Give it a decade, and chances are that you&#8217;ll have two states where extremism has been pushed to the fringes and<br />
the very idea of starting the conflict up again horrifies the vast majority of their populations. People who&#8217;ve been given a way out of an existentialy horrible situation and achieved something better tend to be pathologicaly disinclined to put themselves in that situation again.</p>
<p>  But that&#8217;s not going to happen until that same &#8216;someone&#8217; makes ending the Israeli Occupation of what will become the nation of Palestine the starting point of any peace deal, rather than something that &#8216;might&#8217; occur if the Palestinians stop resisting the Occupation long enough for Israelis stop feeling threatened.</p>
<p>  The situation that exists now just puts extremists on both sides in the driving seat, which shouldn&#8217;t be a good thing in anyone&#8217;s book. The fact that neo-conservatives have made achieving this state of existential horror a cornerstone of their foreign policy strategy just puts them safely and securely in the &#8216;extremist &#8216; camp.</p>
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