Comments on: ‘Yes We Bally Well Can’ http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/10/yes-we-bally-well-can/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=yes-we-bally-well-can @TAC Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:36:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jack Tracey http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/10/yes-we-bally-well-can/comment-page-1/#comment-2123 Jack Tracey Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:49:10 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1236#comment-2123 Do people in Britain really believe that Obama symbolizes the triumph of merit? Socialism and Fascism are the same con-- with different names on the deed of ownership. Do people in Britain really believe that Obama symbolizes the triumph of merit? Socialism and Fascism are the same con– with different names on the deed of ownership.

]]> By: MattSwartz http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/10/yes-we-bally-well-can/comment-page-1/#comment-2121 MattSwartz Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:13:54 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1236#comment-2121 When those are the two options, my money is always on the latter. When those are the two options, my money is always on the latter.

]]> By: Jack Ross http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/10/yes-we-bally-well-can/comment-page-1/#comment-2119 Jack Ross Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:25:42 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?p=1236#comment-2119 Its not as though Obama is some kind of champion of the proletariat - on the contrary, I saw the anxious bourgeoisie in Park Slope celebrate in the streets on election night because Obama is the candidate of their anxiety, making the hysterical ravings of people like Raimondo that Obama represents a new kind of fascism all too plausible. At any rate, I still don't totally get why most of TAC's friends across the pond don't like Cameron, though I was pleased to see that he has the unreserved support of their grand old man, Peregrine Worsthorne. I definitely see Obama and Cameron being at least as tight as Bush and Blair, thus putting a final end to the conventional pairings between the British and American parties, and being an anchor of the emerging right-of-center consensus in Europe of which Obama will be very much a part. And they were screeching about how he's a socialist! Bottom line is how a British student friend and enthusiastic Cameron supporter put it to me, in terms that could be just as apt about Obama: "Either everything will change or nothing will change." Its not as though Obama is some kind of champion of the proletariat – on the contrary, I saw the anxious bourgeoisie in Park Slope celebrate in the streets on election night because Obama is the candidate of their anxiety, making the hysterical ravings of people like Raimondo that Obama represents a new kind of fascism all too plausible.

At any rate, I still don’t totally get why most of TAC’s friends across the pond don’t like Cameron, though I was pleased to see that he has the unreserved support of their grand old man, Peregrine Worsthorne. I definitely see Obama and Cameron being at least as tight as Bush and Blair, thus putting a final end to the conventional pairings between the British and American parties, and being an anchor of the emerging right-of-center consensus in Europe of which Obama will be very much a part. And they were screeching about how he’s a socialist!

Bottom line is how a British student friend and enthusiastic Cameron supporter put it to me, in terms that could be just as apt about Obama: “Either everything will change or nothing will change.”

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