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		<title>By: Unlikely Words &#187; Comprehensive Election Reactions Round Up - A Reference - Why McCain Lost</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>Unlikely Words &#187; Comprehensive Election Reactions Round Up - A Reference - Why McCain Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buchanan doesn’t think Obama won so much as McCain lost, or something like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jordan Braunstein</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Braunstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take the O out of God because growing up, people around me seemed to care about this. I thought acquiescence would avoid unfortunate confrontation, but it&#039;s apparent that, no matter which way you write God, you can&#039;t catch a break!  I agree with you that it’s pathetic that people would concern themselves over such things.

But I fail to see your, and others&#039; hang-up with homosexual marriage.  I don&#039;t see how it changes anything you care about; hetero marriage and homo marriage is not some zero-sum tug-o-war for the monolithic &quot;institution of marriage&quot;.  Why is it impossible for homosexual marriage to exist in parallel to the traditional version you are free to preserve; does one crowd the other out?  Is it crucial that the state validate one kind of union above others--social engineering?

  In your rebuttal, you took a certain understanding of good and bad, in terms of sexuality, for granted.  Why does this issue rise above many others to stoke your biblical ire?  Where does the threat to society come from?  Where does the visceral discomfort come from, because let’s face it, there are other clear and present blasphemes that don&#039;t elicit such a strong reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the O out of God because growing up, people around me seemed to care about this. I thought acquiescence would avoid unfortunate confrontation, but it&#8217;s apparent that, no matter which way you write God, you can&#8217;t catch a break!  I agree with you that it’s pathetic that people would concern themselves over such things.</p>
<p>But I fail to see your, and others&#8217; hang-up with homosexual marriage.  I don&#8217;t see how it changes anything you care about; hetero marriage and homo marriage is not some zero-sum tug-o-war for the monolithic &#8220;institution of marriage&#8221;.  Why is it impossible for homosexual marriage to exist in parallel to the traditional version you are free to preserve; does one crowd the other out?  Is it crucial that the state validate one kind of union above others&#8211;social engineering?</p>
<p>  In your rebuttal, you took a certain understanding of good and bad, in terms of sexuality, for granted.  Why does this issue rise above many others to stoke your biblical ire?  Where does the threat to society come from?  Where does the visceral discomfort come from, because let’s face it, there are other clear and present blasphemes that don&#8217;t elicit such a strong reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: MattSwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>MattSwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And if that isn’t the essence of bigotry, then what is?&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps the smearing of an entire religion just because most of it&#039;s adherents aren&#039;t interested in seeing marriage go in a biologically unsustainable direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And if that isn’t the essence of bigotry, then what is?</i></p>
<p>Perhaps the smearing of an entire religion just because most of it&#8217;s adherents aren&#8217;t interested in seeing marriage go in a biologically unsustainable direction?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2106</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It implies a fear that G-D’s Word is somehow fragile enough to be shaken by a bunch of gays who want to have a marriage ceremony in addition to equal protection under the law.&quot;

What I find pathetic is you pretending to believe the Orthodox Jewish injunction against putting the &quot;O&quot; in God, while coming out in favor of an idea so crazy and anti-heterosexual that even the Ancient Greeks didn&#039;t think of it.

Pat Buchanan has pointed out many times that California is no go territory for the GOP in presidential elections, his point vis a vis the ballot proposition measure&#039;s victory was that:

If even California, one of the most overly permissive hell holes in the history of the world, a place that will go down soon, with no help to come from the bankrupt USFG...

...If even California turned against the radical agenda of the raging homosexual lobby, what does that tell you about the rest of the Country?

If Republicans sell out on gay marriage just because they&#039;re afraid of being called bigots, they&#039;re too weak to be entrusted with national security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It implies a fear that G-D’s Word is somehow fragile enough to be shaken by a bunch of gays who want to have a marriage ceremony in addition to equal protection under the law.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I find pathetic is you pretending to believe the Orthodox Jewish injunction against putting the &#8220;O&#8221; in God, while coming out in favor of an idea so crazy and anti-heterosexual that even the Ancient Greeks didn&#8217;t think of it.</p>
<p>Pat Buchanan has pointed out many times that California is no go territory for the GOP in presidential elections, his point vis a vis the ballot proposition measure&#8217;s victory was that:</p>
<p>If even California, one of the most overly permissive hell holes in the history of the world, a place that will go down soon, with no help to come from the bankrupt USFG&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;If even California turned against the radical agenda of the raging homosexual lobby, what does that tell you about the rest of the Country?</p>
<p>If Republicans sell out on gay marriage just because they&#8217;re afraid of being called bigots, they&#8217;re too weak to be entrusted with national security.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Braunstein</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Braunstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Michael Robinson.

So many are sick of the Bible being used to justify what would clearly be bigotry in every sense if not for a Biblical premise.  The Christian Conservatives don&#039;t have much standing when they cherry-pick the Holy Word in support of points of view they’d agree with regardless.  They should get off their high horse and start stoning adulterers if they want to be respected as real traditionalists.  Otherwise, they&#039;re just positioning their subjective discomfort with open homosexuality behind the shield of religiosity--right-wing political correctness.

  Incidentally, liberal Christians, liberation theologians and the social gospel advocates are just as guilty of this shameful incoherence and inconsistency; shameful, because its accompanied by a sickening self-righteousness that attempts to use G-D as a rhetorical bludgeon to achieve political (anti-social) objectives.

Ironically, Christians feeling threatened by homosexual activism betrays a lack of faith in their own ability to inculcate their understanding of Christian Morals in their children. It implies a fear that G-D&#039;s Word is somehow fragile enough to be shaken by a bunch of gays who want to have a marriage ceremony in addition to equal protection under the law.  

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Michael Robinson.</p>
<p>So many are sick of the Bible being used to justify what would clearly be bigotry in every sense if not for a Biblical premise.  The Christian Conservatives don&#8217;t have much standing when they cherry-pick the Holy Word in support of points of view they’d agree with regardless.  They should get off their high horse and start stoning adulterers if they want to be respected as real traditionalists.  Otherwise, they&#8217;re just positioning their subjective discomfort with open homosexuality behind the shield of religiosity&#8211;right-wing political correctness.</p>
<p>  Incidentally, liberal Christians, liberation theologians and the social gospel advocates are just as guilty of this shameful incoherence and inconsistency; shameful, because its accompanied by a sickening self-righteousness that attempts to use G-D as a rhetorical bludgeon to achieve political (anti-social) objectives.</p>
<p>Ironically, Christians feeling threatened by homosexual activism betrays a lack of faith in their own ability to inculcate their understanding of Christian Morals in their children. It implies a fear that G-D&#8217;s Word is somehow fragile enough to be shaken by a bunch of gays who want to have a marriage ceremony in addition to equal protection under the law.  </p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;their Bible-rooted Christian beliefs&quot;

Rooted?  Eh, not so much.  &quot;Rooted&quot; suggests that their beliefs stem from the Bible, in which case you would find the many injunctions of, say, Leviticus more widely observed amongst the Christians of California, Arizona, and Florida.

Shellfish?  Pork?  A camel through the eye of a needle?

In fact what one finds is that Biblical sanction is sought, ex post facto, to legitimize whatever visceral revulsion of the moment, and the remainder of the word of God disregarded and discarded without further thought.

And if that isn&#039;t the essence of bigotry, then what is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;their Bible-rooted Christian beliefs&#8221;</p>
<p>Rooted?  Eh, not so much.  &#8220;Rooted&#8221; suggests that their beliefs stem from the Bible, in which case you would find the many injunctions of, say, Leviticus more widely observed amongst the Christians of California, Arizona, and Florida.</p>
<p>Shellfish?  Pork?  A camel through the eye of a needle?</p>
<p>In fact what one finds is that Biblical sanction is sought, ex post facto, to legitimize whatever visceral revulsion of the moment, and the remainder of the word of God disregarded and discarded without further thought.</p>
<p>And if that isn&#8217;t the essence of bigotry, then what is?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for conservatives to go back to being conservative.  
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for conservatives to go back to being conservative.<br />
<a href="http://rightklik.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rightklik.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget that McCain&#039;s campaign was a disaster. This election was a dirty fight. It was all about money well spent on dominating a biased media which never gave McCain a chance. It was all about a savvy PR campaign capable of burying any kind of damage to Obama, spinning,  any tale that would make him smell like a flower, and mostly fought in the internet with blogs and websites, saturated with Obama supporters, abusing, spamming, trolling any kind of comment that would favor McCain. And that&#039;s not even touching the tip of the iceberg - which is Acorn... While McCain became the republican candidate, the democratic party took forever in electing a candidate which rendered Obama into a recognaziable figure of celebrity status. And this generation is so fascinated by celebrities, so they chose dross over gold. 

Who knew that this race would be fought mainly in the internet - mainly by a biased press?

They chose, the people followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget that McCain&#8217;s campaign was a disaster. This election was a dirty fight. It was all about money well spent on dominating a biased media which never gave McCain a chance. It was all about a savvy PR campaign capable of burying any kind of damage to Obama, spinning,  any tale that would make him smell like a flower, and mostly fought in the internet with blogs and websites, saturated with Obama supporters, abusing, spamming, trolling any kind of comment that would favor McCain. And that&#8217;s not even touching the tip of the iceberg &#8211; which is Acorn&#8230; While McCain became the republican candidate, the democratic party took forever in electing a candidate which rendered Obama into a recognaziable figure of celebrity status. And this generation is so fascinated by celebrities, so they chose dross over gold. </p>
<p>Who knew that this race would be fought mainly in the internet &#8211; mainly by a biased press?</p>
<p>They chose, the people followed.</p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/06/why-mccain-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2002</link>
		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snap out of it Pat! Especially your old man&#039;s crush for Sarah :-)  Dukakis led by 17 in the polls after the convention. Carter was leading Reagan (do you believe the press was kind to Reagan at that stage?) till before the debate. It is a delusion if you believe McCain-Palin would have won California of all places, talking about cultural issues. The white working class did hear about Wright and Ayers (Sister Sarah was pounding on the later), but went with their pocket books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snap out of it Pat! Especially your old man&#8217;s crush for Sarah <img src='http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Dukakis led by 17 in the polls after the convention. Carter was leading Reagan (do you believe the press was kind to Reagan at that stage?) till before the debate. It is a delusion if you believe McCain-Palin would have won California of all places, talking about cultural issues. The white working class did hear about Wright and Ayers (Sister Sarah was pounding on the later), but went with their pocket books.</p>
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