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		<title>By: ACORN - Page 4</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACORN - Page 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] population has altered, however subtly, the Republican Party</description>
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		<title>By: Glenda Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenda Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush did not declare mission accomplished.  That sign was put on the USS Abraham Lincoln by the ship, not Bush, and it was a declaration that their mission was accomplished.  I am tired of people using that to beat up Bush.  You see, when 9/11 happened, the USS Lincoln was on it&#039;s way home to Everett, WA (I live in Seattle, so I know the facts here).  Instead of coming home, the ship was redirected due to the terror attack.  When they finally did return home, Bush greeted them, which was great.  Big welcome home.  The mission accomplished sign was theirs, not Bush&#039;s.  Bush did declare that day the end of major combat operations in Iraq, and if you recall shock and awe, it WAS the end of that operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush did not declare mission accomplished.  That sign was put on the USS Abraham Lincoln by the ship, not Bush, and it was a declaration that their mission was accomplished.  I am tired of people using that to beat up Bush.  You see, when 9/11 happened, the USS Lincoln was on it&#8217;s way home to Everett, WA (I live in Seattle, so I know the facts here).  Instead of coming home, the ship was redirected due to the terror attack.  When they finally did return home, Bush greeted them, which was great.  Big welcome home.  The mission accomplished sign was theirs, not Bush&#8217;s.  Bush did declare that day the end of major combat operations in Iraq, and if you recall shock and awe, it WAS the end of that operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Review: The Day the Earth Stood Still &#171; AN SAOIRSÍ: sean-toraidhe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review: The Day the Earth Stood Still &#171; AN SAOIRSÍ: sean-toraidhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS - so, they can: 1. Bring people back form the dead; 2. Zoom through space at Whotsit to the power of 7 meters per second; 3. Disintegrate an entire planet&#8217;s surface and/or target one species and all it&#8217;s products with self-replicating nano-bots; But, BUT, they can&#8217;t terraform another planet? Give us a few tips? Send us a note before now? Wear a bullet-proof vest? (I guess you destroy a planet with the invasion force you have, not the invasion force you want) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PS &#8211; so, they can: 1. Bring people back form the dead; 2. Zoom through space at Whotsit to the power of 7 meters per second; 3. Disintegrate an entire planet&#8217;s surface and/or target one species and all it&#8217;s products with self-replicating nano-bots; But, BUT, they can&#8217;t terraform another planet? Give us a few tips? Send us a note before now? Wear a bullet-proof vest? (I guess you destroy a planet with the invasion force you have, not the invasion force you want) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we can all pretty much assume the army is not for cutting and running so they are not Democrats.  However these soldiers are tired of the wars and the party that is responsible for these wars is the Republicans.  It is no surprise their numbers have dropped off.  However once again a Republican will win them overwhelmingly this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we can all pretty much assume the army is not for cutting and running so they are not Democrats.  However these soldiers are tired of the wars and the party that is responsible for these wars is the Republicans.  It is no surprise their numbers have dropped off.  However once again a Republican will win them overwhelmingly this election.</p>
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		<title>By: TallTerrance</title>
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		<dc:creator>TallTerrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is the president elect, the general officers and pentagon will follow his orders. I hope that the Obama adnministration improves medical and mental health care for returning vets, and inspires more citizens to join the military. The DoD will need to do budget cuts and improve efficiency, and hopefully will move to rely a lot less on private contactors. 
The military can do a better job at making itself a good career option, especially given these hard employment times for young graduates of high school and college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the president elect, the general officers and pentagon will follow his orders. I hope that the Obama adnministration improves medical and mental health care for returning vets, and inspires more citizens to join the military. The DoD will need to do budget cuts and improve efficiency, and hopefully will move to rely a lot less on private contactors.<br />
The military can do a better job at making itself a good career option, especially given these hard employment times for young graduates of high school and college.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackLizrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackLizrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff,
Your post was nearly entirely nonsensical.  &quot;Too much blood to stop now&quot;?  Really?  Have you considered the fact that the blood you&#039;re so willing to continue to shed is not your own?  You are sitting comfortably at home while this war goes on and on and on.  The last two sentences make me cringe to think both you and I call ourselves Americans.  You sound like a scared old man, afraid of the big jigaboo.  Hide the white women!  What deep, dark fear you must harbor in your withered old soul.  Sentiments like yours make me physically sick.  I&#039;m not suggesting you don&#039;t have the right to spew them - we all enjoy that right thanks mainly to our military, whose lives we should never trade so people like you are spared from feeling shame.  Maybe you should; I certainly don&#039;t.  America has made mistakes but I&#039;m proud to be American.  Do you think our freedoms are seriously threatened by ending our involvement in Iraq?  I do not.  This is just my opinion.  Times are a&#039; changin&#039;, my friend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff,<br />
Your post was nearly entirely nonsensical.  &#8220;Too much blood to stop now&#8221;?  Really?  Have you considered the fact that the blood you&#8217;re so willing to continue to shed is not your own?  You are sitting comfortably at home while this war goes on and on and on.  The last two sentences make me cringe to think both you and I call ourselves Americans.  You sound like a scared old man, afraid of the big jigaboo.  Hide the white women!  What deep, dark fear you must harbor in your withered old soul.  Sentiments like yours make me physically sick.  I&#8217;m not suggesting you don&#8217;t have the right to spew them &#8211; we all enjoy that right thanks mainly to our military, whose lives we should never trade so people like you are spared from feeling shame.  Maybe you should; I certainly don&#8217;t.  America has made mistakes but I&#8217;m proud to be American.  Do you think our freedoms are seriously threatened by ending our involvement in Iraq?  I do not.  This is just my opinion.  Times are a&#8217; changin&#8217;, my friend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cliff lightfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliff lightfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our troops in both wars in the mideast should be able to fight the good fight and leave with victory, not defeat and shame. We have put to much blood into this conflict to stop now. Obama&#039;s true self will emerge very soon, and our nation will never be the same again. After he&#039;s finished with out military, and the american people, I dont believe america will elect another black man for 100 yrs............................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our troops in both wars in the mideast should be able to fight the good fight and leave with victory, not defeat and shame. We have put to much blood into this conflict to stop now. Obama&#8217;s true self will emerge very soon, and our nation will never be the same again. After he&#8217;s finished with out military, and the american people, I dont believe america will elect another black man for 100 yrs&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: REED RICHARDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>REED RICHARDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miriam,

Horrified?  That is only the half of it.  Join the club.  But that is not the worst of it.  The worst of it is that all the suckers who voted for Obama seriously think in their minds that change of a significant order is coming even though Obama&#039;s actual voting record says otherwise.  Barack Obama campaigned on Bush&#039;s platform and his helped enact his policies and people are still foolish enough to think that he is the opposite of Bush and will &quot;change things&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miriam,</p>
<p>Horrified?  That is only the half of it.  Join the club.  But that is not the worst of it.  The worst of it is that all the suckers who voted for Obama seriously think in their minds that change of a significant order is coming even though Obama&#8217;s actual voting record says otherwise.  Barack Obama campaigned on Bush&#8217;s platform and his helped enact his policies and people are still foolish enough to think that he is the opposite of Bush and will &#8220;change things&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: REED RICHARDS</title>
		<link>http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2008/11/04/the-shifting-military-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>REED RICHARDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick98C,

You did read the post above did you not?  Oh, wait.  You are right.  We did need a change.  Oh, wait again.  There was bound to be change somewhere, remember, Bush and Cheney could not run for a third term...............Yes, Rick, there will be a change.  A change in White House occupants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick98C,</p>
<p>You did read the post above did you not?  Oh, wait.  You are right.  We did need a change.  Oh, wait again.  There was bound to be change somewhere, remember, Bush and Cheney could not run for a third term&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Yes, Rick, there will be a change.  A change in White House occupants.</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a Christian fundamentalist family and we are just horrified by what has been going on. But then again, we live in Australia and our extended family has had over three generations of experience with the wars in Europe and SE Asia. These people promoting the war are anything but Christian. On the issues of substance to most people at home - education, fair wages, healthcare, just war (versus resource/wars for profit) - they never take up the religious imperative to pursue justice and truth. They are &#039;religious&#039; but not godly. We need to see these charlatans for what they really are - and even if we do - I doubt they will change their tune. The only real thing I can think of which will scare them is to simply give up .. otherwise we&#039;re just the cannonfodder who conveniently breed more boys for them to send to war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from a Christian fundamentalist family and we are just horrified by what has been going on. But then again, we live in Australia and our extended family has had over three generations of experience with the wars in Europe and SE Asia. These people promoting the war are anything but Christian. On the issues of substance to most people at home &#8211; education, fair wages, healthcare, just war (versus resource/wars for profit) &#8211; they never take up the religious imperative to pursue justice and truth. They are &#8216;religious&#8217; but not godly. We need to see these charlatans for what they really are &#8211; and even if we do &#8211; I doubt they will change their tune. The only real thing I can think of which will scare them is to simply give up .. otherwise we&#8217;re just the cannonfodder who conveniently breed more boys for them to send to war.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick98C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick98C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I served for 23 years between active duty, Guard and Reserve and I started out fairly far to the Right, but as the years went by and the Right became more and more a movement of &quot;fundamentalist Christians&quot; I drifted away.  

I was very happy to vote for Obama.  We definately needed a major change from the direction of the last 8 years, but Obama is far from a radical Leftisit.  Unless you&#039;ve been drinking the Fox News kool-aid for too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served for 23 years between active duty, Guard and Reserve and I started out fairly far to the Right, but as the years went by and the Right became more and more a movement of &#8220;fundamentalist Christians&#8221; I drifted away.  </p>
<p>I was very happy to vote for Obama.  We definately needed a major change from the direction of the last 8 years, but Obama is far from a radical Leftisit.  Unless you&#8217;ve been drinking the Fox News kool-aid for too long.</p>
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		<title>By: REED RICHARDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>REED RICHARDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, Mike, Terrible, optimist,

I would also like to add that Senator&#039;s McCain and President-Elect Obama were instrumental in helping Bush pass the single most destructive policy agenda in modern world history.  Witness the below policies and actions that Bush has enacted/signed into law that Obama and McCain both vigorously supported and helped pass in the U.S. Senate:

700 BILLION DOLLAR Wall Street Bailout for crooked CEOs, Hedge Fund Managers and Bankers-both McCain and Obama lobbied and VOTED FOR IT.

War on Terror, Afghan and Iraq Wars which are killing innocent civilians by the thousands - both Senator McCain and President-Elect Obama voted to continue funding them

FISA/illegal spying on Americans Bill-Both Obama and McCain voted for it

Renewed Unconstitutional Patriot Act- Both McCain and Obama voted for it

Amendment aimed at Capping credit Card Interest Rates at 30 percent-Both McCain and Obama voted AGAINST IT.  ( I wonder if we can find any Americans who will tell you with a straight face that they would rather pay 40 percent interest or more on a credit card vice a cap of 30 percent)

Death Penalty-Both Obama and McCain support it

As you can see, unless you actually support this agenda, there is ABSOLUTELY NO LOGIC TO HAVING VOTED FOR EITHER BARACK OBAMA OR JOHN McCAIN.  Just goes to show you that no matter if the voter is military or civilian, the end result is always the same, AMERICANS end up voting against THEIR OWN POLITICAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, Mike, Terrible, optimist,</p>
<p>I would also like to add that Senator&#8217;s McCain and President-Elect Obama were instrumental in helping Bush pass the single most destructive policy agenda in modern world history.  Witness the below policies and actions that Bush has enacted/signed into law that Obama and McCain both vigorously supported and helped pass in the U.S. Senate:</p>
<p>700 BILLION DOLLAR Wall Street Bailout for crooked CEOs, Hedge Fund Managers and Bankers-both McCain and Obama lobbied and VOTED FOR IT.</p>
<p>War on Terror, Afghan and Iraq Wars which are killing innocent civilians by the thousands &#8211; both Senator McCain and President-Elect Obama voted to continue funding them</p>
<p>FISA/illegal spying on Americans Bill-Both Obama and McCain voted for it</p>
<p>Renewed Unconstitutional Patriot Act- Both McCain and Obama voted for it</p>
<p>Amendment aimed at Capping credit Card Interest Rates at 30 percent-Both McCain and Obama voted AGAINST IT.  ( I wonder if we can find any Americans who will tell you with a straight face that they would rather pay 40 percent interest or more on a credit card vice a cap of 30 percent)</p>
<p>Death Penalty-Both Obama and McCain support it</p>
<p>As you can see, unless you actually support this agenda, there is ABSOLUTELY NO LOGIC TO HAVING VOTED FOR EITHER BARACK OBAMA OR JOHN McCAIN.  Just goes to show you that no matter if the voter is military or civilian, the end result is always the same, AMERICANS end up voting against THEIR OWN POLITICAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS.</p>
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		<title>By: REED RICHARDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>REED RICHARDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, Terrible, optimist,

Truth be told, most military voters are the same as civilian American voters.  They vote for either Corporate Candidate A or Corporate Candidate B, which are the Republican and the Democratic wings of the War Party.  They, like their civilian counterparts, can&#039;t find their own butts with both hands when it comes to voting.  No intelligent person who dislikes the Bush/Cheney agenda could have voted for either John McCain or Barack Obama.  Both men campaigned on Bush&#039;s platform and his policies, and the proof of that will be 24-36 months from now, American will still be fighting the Afghan, Iraq, and Pakistan Wars with the strong possibility of fightin a war with Iran.  In other words, they will find out that having voted for Obama, they have voted for more of the same, Corporate Dominance and Endless, Perpetual War.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, Terrible, optimist,</p>
<p>Truth be told, most military voters are the same as civilian American voters.  They vote for either Corporate Candidate A or Corporate Candidate B, which are the Republican and the Democratic wings of the War Party.  They, like their civilian counterparts, can&#8217;t find their own butts with both hands when it comes to voting.  No intelligent person who dislikes the Bush/Cheney agenda could have voted for either John McCain or Barack Obama.  Both men campaigned on Bush&#8217;s platform and his policies, and the proof of that will be 24-36 months from now, American will still be fighting the Afghan, Iraq, and Pakistan Wars with the strong possibility of fightin a war with Iran.  In other words, they will find out that having voted for Obama, they have voted for more of the same, Corporate Dominance and Endless, Perpetual War&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: OhioMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhioMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple....The Military is becoming less white.  They recruit hard in poorer latino and black areas and taking in more foreign recruits that eventually are made citizens...Add that to a few soldiers who actually look and see how their Republican overlords have treated them and used them as a literal and figurative bullet shield the last 8 years with no sense of coherent direction from the top.   Remember military people... Keep all records, all receipts, and document and photo all injuries because the DoD and VA will have a huge medical bill in the coming decades because of these wars, and if given an opportunity to &quot;lose&quot; your information, claim pre-exhisting injuries, or any other way to deny your benefits they will shove you to the curb if you let them.  Remember Gulf War Syndrome?   Well I hope this round of Gulf War Syndrome isnt anywhere near as bad as this Gulf War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple&#8230;.The Military is becoming less white.  They recruit hard in poorer latino and black areas and taking in more foreign recruits that eventually are made citizens&#8230;Add that to a few soldiers who actually look and see how their Republican overlords have treated them and used them as a literal and figurative bullet shield the last 8 years with no sense of coherent direction from the top.   Remember military people&#8230; Keep all records, all receipts, and document and photo all injuries because the DoD and VA will have a huge medical bill in the coming decades because of these wars, and if given an opportunity to &#8220;lose&#8221; your information, claim pre-exhisting injuries, or any other way to deny your benefits they will shove you to the curb if you let them.  Remember Gulf War Syndrome?   Well I hope this round of Gulf War Syndrome isnt anywhere near as bad as this Gulf War.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never bought the idea that the majority of the military voted for Republicans. It&#039;s been many years since I served but when I was in during the early Reagan years an actor who didn&#039;t know his ass from a hole in the ground about the military was considered a damn poor choice for CIC. But then again I was in a rather elite unit of soldiers who all had GT scores over 120.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never bought the idea that the majority of the military voted for Republicans. It&#8217;s been many years since I served but when I was in during the early Reagan years an actor who didn&#8217;t know his ass from a hole in the ground about the military was considered a damn poor choice for CIC. But then again I was in a rather elite unit of soldiers who all had GT scores over 120.</p>
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